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    Turns out, genetics MAY have an influence on crime...

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/20/a...-at-institute-of-justice-conference.html?_r=1

    “Throughout the past 30 or 40 years most criminologists couldn’t say the word ‘genetics’ without spitting,” Terrie E. Moffitt, a behavioral scientist at Duke University, said. “Today the most compelling modern theories of crime and violence weave social and biological themes together.”
     
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    Makes sense to me.

    All one need to is an historical study the behavior patterns of the Royal Families of Europe to see that there is likely a genetic component to antisocial behavior.
     
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    Just a quick drive through the Hood will show anyone that genetics plays a factor in anti-social behavior and crime.
     
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    It isn't just genetics, racism also plays a part in their plight. They have nothing, no education, no hope for anything substantive and no way to get themselves out in this economy. White people also live in the hood.

    We need jobs, it would be great if our leaders realized that.
     
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    Have you ever known a murderer? I have and you know what he seemed kind and rather normal, have you ever met a CFO or high level exec, they seem kind and rather normal too. So how is it one is a criminal and the other not. Well that's not quite the case, the CIO may really do more damage than the petty criminal, think Enron's effect on its workers. The piece below is on topic and a perfect starting point for a discussion of nature v nurture.

    Jim Fallon: Exploring the mind of a killer | Video on TED.com

    If you want to read an interesting book that outlines the paradoxes of judgements check out Jensen's book. [ame=http://www.amazon.com/Culture-Make-Believe-Derrick-Jensen/dp/1931498571/ref=sr_1_8?s=books&ie=UTF8]Amazon.com: The Culture of Make Believe (9781931498579): Derrick Jensen: Books[/ame]
     
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    I am not the least bit racist.

    But genetically it makes sense that environmental factors could trigger the activation of dormant genes leadind to crime and violence.

    Which would go far to explain the propensity of a certain race towards criminal behavior.
     
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    I'm not sure but it seems obvious that there is not one single person in the world who would not kill under the most provoking circumstances. Heredity and genetics may be strong factors but mental health is probably the kicker. Education may have far less to do with 'it all' than most would assume but because there is wisdom that comes from living even living a hard life, a poor life.

    Social connections and outreach programs seem to make a huge difference in areas of unemployment. Also, what 'self-soothing' methods are readily available? Honestly, one of the biggest problems with our growing psyches is that many of us are taught to refrain from or reject completely the very things that would deliver us from destroying ourselves and those around us.

    Unemployment and depression does indeed go hand in hand, as does a lack of sex be it in or out of marriage. We live in such a materialistic sex driven society here in America that without some kind of influential grounding I am almost afraid for the future spiritual development of our generations to come.
     
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    Poverty, genes, environment - it's all woven in together. You'd just better hope you pop into a good situation when you make your world debut.
     
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    The best criminals are white, look at Al Capone, Meyer Lansky, Lucky Luciano, John Gotti, the Russian Mafia etc etc, so does that mean whites carry more of the criminal gene than blacks?
     
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