The Straussian Neo-Conservative - I Suggest You Read This

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    First of all, understand that most of the Bush administrations' top advisors and planners were either students of Strauss at the U of Chicago, or they have been extremely influenced by his ideals. They all came together in a think tank called the Project for a New American Century, where they wrote the book on the current foreign policy. Even Cheney's wife and daughter were students at U of C, and received a great deal of neo-con influence.

    This isn't conspiracy theory, this is real life. This is what the people that are making policy today TRUELY BELIEVE.

    EDIT: Lynne wasn't a student at U of C. Liz was, however. Lynne did serve on the board of directors of Lockheed Martin, a prominent defense contractor and beneficiary of lucrative contracts in Iraq, as well as other conflicts. She is also a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, a major neo-conservative leaning think tank, and she served on the Defense Policy Board, where the usual suspects did a lot of their planning for the current wars and foreign policy.

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    <h2>Straussism: The Neocon Philosophy Directing The Age Of Tyranny - Looking Glass&nbsp;News</h2>
    <h4>January 27th, 2007</h4>
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    <p><strong>Straussism is the philosophy of the obscure University Of Chicago philosophy instructor Leo Strauss.</strong></p>
    <p><strong>The students of Leo Strauss left the University in search of political power; these took root in the Republican party, formed neo-conservatism and became known as Neocons</strong></p>
    <p><strong>Straussism calls for tyranny &#8212; rule from those above.</strong></p>
    <p>The purpose of this document is to present the principles of Straussism as a rosetta stone <a href="http://tinyurl.com/qo7yc">http://tinyurl.com/qo7yc </a>to give one the knowledge to decipher and translate the rhetoric and behavior of the George Bush neocon administration into some degree of coherent meaning.</p>
    <p><strong>Introduction:</strong></p>
    <p><strong>1) A Straussian: a disciple of the philosopher Leo Strauss.</strong></p>
    <p><strong>Note:two videos</strong> on neocons below the article</p>
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    <p>2) Leo Struass (1899-1973) was a student of philosophy in Germany and watched the Weimar Republic dissolve into chaos and then into tyranny. As a Jew, he was forced to flee Germany and he eventually ended up at the University of Chicago, where he developed a cult following from some the brightest students. For Strauss, the demise of the Weimar Republic represented a repudiation of liberal democracy. Liberalism, to Strauss, equals relativism, which necessarily leads to nihilism. Strauss longed to return to a previous, pre-liberal, pre-bourgeois era of blood and guts, of imperial domination, of authoritarian rule, of pure fascism.</p>
    <p>These views resonated with Straussian disciples such as Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, William Kristol and Harry Jaffa. They took these ideas out of the classroom and translated them into actual political doctrine: <strong>the neoconservative manifesto of the Project for a New American Century</strong>. Straussian principles would be implemented on a global scale, and 9/11 provided the perfect pretext. Paul Wolfowitz, who attended Strauss&#8217;s lectures on Plato, became the architect of the Iraq War, using hyped intelligence concerning WMD&#8217;s as the &#8220;noble lie&#8221;.</p>
    <p>As a young man in Germany, Leo Strauss became infatuated with a beautiful and brilliant Jewish scholar, Hannah Arendt, whose impact on American political thought will probably be seen by future historians as greater than any other of the Weimar &#233;migr&#233;s. Hannah Arendt spurned Strauss&#8217;s advances and did not conceal her contempt for his ideas. Arendt died in 1975, but the importance of her work is just beginning to be appreciated. Her brilliant analysis, The Origins of Totalitarianism, remains the standard today, and her categories can help us understand the erosion of democracy since 9/11. Her concept of the &#8220;banality of evil&#8221; which she developed in Eichmann in Jerusalem is useful in understanding how ordinary individuals can plan and carry out acts of inhumanity.</p>
    <p>Strauss and Arendt represent the two poles of the ideological struggle that began in the Weimar Republic and which continues even today in America. <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ocj7s">http://tinyurl.com/ocj7s</a></p>
    <p>3) So, what is Neo-conservatism (what is its relationship to Straussism and how is it related to tyranny), and how does it propose to change the world in accordance with Straussian political philosophy? &#8216;Neo&#8217; comes from the Greek neos, which means new. And, what&#8217;s neo about neo-conservatism? Well, for one thing, the old conservatism relied on tradition and history; it was cautious, slow and moderate; it went with the flow. But under the influence of Leo Strauss, the new conservatism is intoxicated with nature. The new conservatism is not slow or cautious, but active, aggressive, and reactionary in the literal sense of the term. Inspired by Strauss&#8217;s hatred for liberal modernity, its goal is to turn back the clock on the liberal revolution and its achievements. <a href="http://tinyurl.com/of2p4">http://tinyurl.com/of2p4</a></p>
    <p><strong>Twenty Two Characteristics Of Straussism</strong></p>
    <p><strong>1) The Few Must Rule The Many</strong></p>
    <p>John Locke and the American founding fathers held &#8220;the natural law tradition&#8221; which holds that man possesses natural rights to life, liberty, and property and that the state is always and everywhere the greatest threat to these God-given rights. To the founders, this meant that government should be &#8220;bound by the chains&#8221; of the Constitution, to paraphrase Jefferson. If men were angels, there would be no need for government, Madison wrote in defense of the Constitution. But men are not angels, Madison continued, which is why government power must always be limited.</p>
    <p><strong>Leo Strauss rejected this view of natural rights in favor of Plato&#8217;s &#8220;philosopher-king&#8221; model of governmen</strong>t; the &#8220;philosopher kings&#8221; exercise the &#8220;rule of the wise&#8221;</p>
    <p><strong>Straussians assign dignity to the few.</strong></p>
    <p>The superiority of the &#8220;ruling philosophers&#8221; is an intellectual superiority and not a moral one.</p>
    <p>2) Virtue Is Defined By The Elite: It Is That Which Is &#8220;For The Public Good&#8221;</p>
    <p>The elite few are to have unlimited state power who use it to pursue &#8220;virtue&#8221; with virtue being, their own vision of &#8220;the public good.&#8221;</p>
    <p>Moral virtue had no application to the really intelligent man, the philosopher. Moral virtue only existed in popular opinion, where it served the purpose of controlling the unintelligent majority.</p>
    <p><strong>3) The Strong Must Rule The Weak</strong></p>
    <p>Strauss taught: &#8220;The strong must rule the weak&#8221;; this was presented quite well in Jim Lobe&#8217;s article &#8216;The Strong Must Rule The Weak&#8217; <a href="http://tinyurl.com/qtlnn">http://tinyurl.com/qtlnn</a></p>
    <p><strong>4) Only One Natural Right: The Right To Rule Over The Vulgar Many</strong><br />
    Those who are fit to rule are those who realize there is <strong>no morality</strong> and that there is only one natural right &#8211; the right of the superior to rule over the inferior.</p>
    <p>The people will not be happy to learn that there is only one natural right&#8212;the right of the superior to rule over the inferior, the master over the slave, the husband over the wife, and the wise few over the vulgar many.</p>
    <p>For the Straussian, the people of the United States are the &#8220;vulgar many,&#8221; chumps, dupes, and ciphers to be manipulated, poked, and prodded in the direction of the &#8220;Long War,&#8221; a new Hundred Years&#8217; War, as spelled out by Rumsfeld&#8217;s latest Quadrennial Defense Review. &#8220;A policy of perpetual war against a threatening enemy is the best way to ward off political decay. And if the enemy cannot be found, then it must be invented.&#8221;</p>
    <p>Human beings are born neither free nor equal. The natural human condition, is not one of freedom, but of subordination.</p>
    <p>Strauss divided the history of political thought into two camps: the ancients (like Plato) are wise and wily, whereas the moderns (like Locke and other liberals) are vulgar and foolish.</p>
    <p><strong>5) Justice Is Merely The Interest Of The Stronger</strong></p>
    <p>Strauss shares the insights of the wise Plato that justice is merely the interest of the stronger; that those in power make the rules in their own interests and call it justice.</p>
    <p><strong>6) &#8220;The Rule Of The Wise&#8221; is unquestionable, absolute, authoritarian, undemocratic and covert</strong><br />
    The rule of the wise is not to be questioned: one is not to raise questions about classic values such as justice or constitutional principles; hence the rule of the wise must be unquestioned.</p>
    <p>The rule of the wise is to be absolute, authoritarian and undemocratic: The rule of the wise cannot involve any consideration of the unwise: Leo Strauss said: &#8220;It would be equally absurd to hamper the free flow of wisdom by consideration of the unwise wishes of the unwise; hence the wise rulers ought not to be responsible to the unwise subjects;&#8221; the rule of the wise must be absolute and authoritarian; majority-democracy would result in the subjection of what is by nature higher to that which is lower. Strauss&#8217; reading of Plato comes down to this: <strong>a majority-democracy is an act against nature</strong> and must be prevented at all costs. Under the Straussian autocratic system, dissent is not only dangerous, it is seditious.</p>
    <p>This rule of the wise must be <strong>covert</strong>; and this principle is facilitated by the overwhelming stupidity of the gentlemen. The more gullible and unperceptive they are, the easier it is for the wise to control and manipulate them.</p>
    <p><strong>7) The Three Classes: The Wise-Few, The Vulgar-Many And The Gentlemen</strong></p>
    <p>The wise are the lovers of the harsh, unadulterated truth. They are capable of looking into the abyss without fear and trembling. They recognize neither God nor moral imperatives. They are devoted above all else to their own pursuit of the &#8220;higher&#8221; pleasures, which amount to consorting with their &#8220;puppies&#8221; or young initiates.</p>
    <p>The vulgar many, are lovers of wealth and pleasure. They are selfish, slothful, and indolent. They can be inspired to rise above their brutish existence only by fear of impending death or catastrophe.</p>
    <p>The gentlemen, are lovers of honor and glory. They are the most ingratiating towards the conventions of their society, that is, the illusions of the cave. They are true believers in God, honor, and moral imperatives. They are ready and willing to embark on acts of great courage and self-sacrifice at a moment&#8217;s notice.</p>
    <p><strong>8) The State Is Omnipotent: It Manifests Militaristic Nationalism.</strong></p>
    <p>Strauss believed that human aggression could only be restrained by a powerful, nationalistic state. He believed that such an omnipotent state can only be maintained if there is an external threat, &#8220;even if one has to be manufactured.&#8221; This is why Straussians believe in perpetual war and is another reason why they have formed a cult around &#8220;the church of Lincoln,&#8221; whom they hold up as &#8220;the greatest statesman in history.&#8221; Lincoln manufactured many &#8220;threats,&#8221; including the truly bizarre notion that representative government would perish from the earth if the Southern states were permitted to secede peacefully. In reality, peaceful secession would have been a victory for self-government, keeping in mind that neither Lincoln nor Congress ever said that they were launching an invasion for any reason having to do with liberating the slaves.</p>
    <p><strong>Strauss taught that war &#8211; any war &#8211; will restore our &#8220;moral seriousness&#8221;</strong>, &#8220;clear away the fog of unthinking relativism,&#8221; enable us to see evil, restore virtue, heroism, valor, and a sense of sacrifice, allow us to die for our comrades, country and faith, avoid the &#8220;hazards of civilization,&#8221; make us more thoughtful, force us to &#8220;consider our loyalties,&#8221; make men &#8220;decisive&#8221;, and &#8220;place greatness within the reach of ordinary men.&#8221;</p>
    <p>&#8220;Because mankind is intrinsically wicked, he has to be governed,&#8221; he once wrote. &#8220;Such governance can only be established, however, when men are united &#8211; and they can only be united against other people.&#8221;</p>
    <p>The only way a political order can be stable and not deteriorate in hedonistic pleasure is if it is united <strong>by an external threat.</strong></p>
    <p>Wealth, freedom, and prosperity make people soft, pampered, and depraved. War is an antidote to moral decadence and depravity. Thus war is held to be redemptive</p>
    <p><strong>9) Perpetual War Is Necessary</strong><br />
    Perpetual War not perpetual peace, is what Straussians believe in; thus an &#8220;aggressive, belligerent foreign policy,&#8221; of the kind that has been advocated by neocon groups like PNAC and AEI scholars, not to mention Wolfowitz and other administration hawks who have called for a world order dominated by U.S. military power. Strauss&#8217; neoconservative students see foreign policy as a means to fulfill a &#8220;national destiny&#8221;, as Irving Kristol defined it already in 1983, that goes far beyond the narrow confines of a &#8220;myopic national security.&#8221;</p>
    <p><strong>10) Patriotic Fervor Is To Be Rallied</strong><br />
    The nation against its external enemies as well as its internal decadence, sloth, pleasure, and consumption, encourages a strong patriotic fervor among the honor-loving gentlemen who wield the reins of power. That strong nationalistic spirit consists in the belief that their nation and its values are the best in the world, and that all other cultures and their values are inferior in comparison.</p>
    <p><strong>11) Political Expediency And Murder Become Virtue</strong></p>
    <p>Athens, the democracy, weakened by plague, suffered a terrible defeat at the hands of oligarchic Sparta and its allies. Strauss, following Plato, did not grieve for the loss of Athens; the<strong> real </strong>city had been no match for the <strong>ideal </strong>city. In his view, the active life of the citizen of Periclean Athens suffered by comparison with the contemplative life of the philosopher.</p>
    <p>The Straussians in the Department of Defense and in the think tanks took this to mean that they could kill on principle. And they did and they do. The first Bush sent his Spartan general to Iraq, and the second sent the same Spartan to the Security Council. The Straussians could not call their work politics, so they called it virtue.</p>
    <p><strong>12) Possess And As Necessary Present The &#8220;Hidden Meaning&#8221; Reject Countervailing Historical Narratives</strong></p>
    <p>Straussians routinely claim to possess unique understanding of the &#8220;<strong>hidden meaning&#8221; of history</strong> and historical documents, which is often directly at odds with the plain historical facts.</p>
    <p><strong>13) Maintain A Culture Of Lying And Carry On A Perpetual Confusion Campaign</strong></p>
    <p>Maintain a culture of lying through a compliant media and professional spokes-liars, and carry on a perpetual campaign to confuse the public and keep it ignorant of the elites political designs. The result of this is that Elite operate from a shroud of secrecy; thus their reasonings and logic is nontransparent.</p>
    <p>Strauss continually endeavored to convince his acolytes that they are the natural ruling elite.</p>
    <p>And it does not take much intelligence for them to surmise that they are in a situation of great danger, especially in a world devoted to the modern ideas of equal rights and freedoms. Now more than ever, the wise few must proceed cautiously and with circumspection. So, they come to the conclusion that they have a moral justification to lie in order to avoid persecution.</p>
    <p>Yes Strauss goes so far as to say that dissembling and deception &#8211; in effect, a culture of lying &#8211;<strong> is the peculiar justice of the wise.</strong></p>
    <p><strong>14) The Many Are Told What They Need To Know And No More.</strong><br />
    Deception is carried on continually.</p>
    <p>Lies are to be both aggressive and perpetual.</p>
    <p>While the elite few are capable of absorbing the absence of any moral truth, the many could not cope; if exposed to anything other than the maintained reality, they would quickly fall into nihilism or anarchy.</p>
    <p><strong>15) Lies Are Held To Be Nobel: Develop, Maintain And Present Noble Lies</strong></p>
    <p>Strauss believed in the concept of &#8220;noble lies&#8221;: the conviction that lies, far from being simply a regrettable necessity of political life, are instead virtuous and noble instruments of wise policy to keep the many from the dangers of liberalism and democracy.</p>
    <p>Plato himself advised his nobles, men with golden souls, to tell noble lies, that is, political fables, much like the specter of Saddam Hussein with a nuclear bomb: to rally the people, to keep the other levels of human society (silver, iron, brass) in their proper places, loyal to the state and willing to do its bidding</p>
    <p>Strauss defined the modern method of noble lies in the use of esoteric messages within an exoteric text, telling the truth to the wise while at the same time conveying something quite different to the many; thus<strong> he advocated an Orwellian double speak</strong> <a href="http://tinyurl.com/8jxjo">http://tinyurl.com/8jxjo</a> method of communication</p>
    <p><strong>16) Dissemble Democracy</strong></p>
    <p>Maintain true democracy that is a leadership-democracy for the Few while at the same time feign majority-democracy to the Many.</p>
    <p>Relate the principle of true democracy to the elite: the strong must rule the weak. While at the same time dissemble<a href="http://tinyurl.com/rpyod"> http://tinyurl.com/rpyod </a>mythical democracy to the populace: the rule of the majority.</p>
    <p>Strauss had no objections to democracy as long as a wise elite, inspired by the profound truths of the ancients</p>
    <p>Wrap speeches with the American flag giving the appearance of appearance of legitimacy in dissimulation and deceit.</p>
    <p><strong>17) Religion Is For The Many</strong></p>
    <p>Strauss believed in, and proposed, a state religion as a way of reviving absolutes, countering free thought, and enforcing a cohesive unity. Strauss argued against a society containing a multiplicity of coexisting religions and goals, which would break the society apart.</p>
    <p>Religion was primarily a propaganda tool to be used to get the many to acquiesce in state intervention on behalf of aggressive nationalism.</p>
    <p>Authority and discipline are key values for Straussians; the many need religion to keep them in line. Marx called religion the opium of the people, Strauss thought the people needed their opium.</p>
    <p>Thus, Religion is absolutely essential in order to impose moral law on the many who otherwise would be out of control.</p>
    <p>Religion was for the many alone; the philosopher kings need not be bound by it. Indeed, it would be absurd if they were, since the truths proclaimed by religion were &#8220;a pious fraud.&#8221; Neoconservatives are pro-religion even though they themselves may not be believers.</p>
    <p>&#8220;Secular society in their view is the worst possible thing,&#8221; because it leads to individualism, liberalism, and relativism, precisely those traits that may promote dissent that in turn could dangerously weaken society&#8217;s ability to cope with external threats or not be available for aggressive nationalism</p>
    <p><strong>18) Secrecy Is Essential</strong><br />
    The wise must conceal their views for two reasons &#8211; to spare the people&#8217;s feelings and to protect the elite from possible reprisals. People will not be happy to learn that there is only one natural right &#8211; the right of the superior to rule over the inferior, and both lies and secrecy are thus necessary to protect the superior few from the persecution of the vulgar many.</p>
    <p><strong>19) Nature Abhors A Contract</strong><br />
    Long before the events of September 11, 2001, the Bush Administration, goaded on by Wolfowitz, Kristol, The American Enterprise Institute, The Project for the New American Century, and others on the right, had made a decision to oust Saddam Hussein. Bush seems to have had a personal vendetta, but the others had more philosophical reasons.</p>
    <p>There was nothing Machiavellian about the attack. It was based on principles the planners derived from natural law. One suspects that President Bush, with his simplistic messianic mind-set, was attracted to this line of reasoning: The natural law in the yew hearts of human beings, the innate ability to know right from wrong, took precedence over mere convention.</p>
    <p>And so the Bush regime violated the contract that was agreed to when the United States joined the United Nations; it flouted the U.S. Constitution, which is also a contract, by attacking without the required declaration of war by the Congress; and it disregarded the Geneva Conventions in its treatment of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and in other secret detention camps around the world.</p>
    <p>The administration&#8217;s wise men held up Strauss&#8217;s version of natural law as the model, dismissing contracts as mere laws of men.</p>
    <p>Natural law, interpreted by Bush&#8217;s &#8220;wise counsels,&#8221; gave the President permission to launch a preemptive war<strong> through an appeal to the higher power.</strong> Natural-law theory assumes that men seek the good and that by asking the perennial questions&#8211;what is virtue? What is justice?&#8211;they will come to wisdom.</p>
    <p>Straussians, like Kristol, hold that the Founding Fathers espoused natural-law theory, saying that natural law was both divine and self-evident. But the Founders were concerned with inalienable natural rights. After much debate in their convention, they wrote a contract.</p>
    <p><strong>20) Intimidate All Opponents</strong></p>
    <p>&#8220;Professors who had less respect for Leo Strauss . . . were read quotations from [Strauss&#8217;s] Natural Right and History.&#8221; The other faculty and students at Chicago viewed the Straussians as &#8220;intellectual brown shirts, engaged in a campaign of deliberate intimidation.&#8221; This of course is a practice that these same people practice today, rarely engaging in honest intellectual debate but rather attempting to intimidate or censor those who disagree with them. Alan Keyes, for example, typically dismisses his critics as being &#8220;incapable of recognizing moral purpose,&#8221; as though he alone possesses such abilities.</p>
    <p><strong>21) Extinguish The Fires of Rabble</strong></p>
    <p>Jim Lobe in &#8216;Strong Must Rule The Weak&#8217; writes: As for what a Straussian world order might look like, (Shadia) Drury said the philosopher often talked about Jonathan Swift&#8217;s story of Gulliver and the Lilliputians. &#8221;When Lilliput was on fire, Gulliver urinated over the city, including the palace. In so doing, he saved all of Lilliput from catastrophe, but the Lilliputians were outraged and appalled by such a show of disrespect.&#8221;</p>
    <p>The fires of rabble are the modern licentious doctrines and philosophies; these include such things as individualism, liberty, legalism and constitutionalism. The fires of rabble have resulted in great social decay: divorce, delinquency, crime, and abounding creature comforts; and the fires of rabble have created seditious constructs of contracts, statutes and constitutions.</p>
    <p>The Vulgar, that is America, is literally on fire; in order for it to be saved, the fires of rabble<strong> must be extinguished through the institution of martial law.</strong></p>
    <p><strong>22) Ennoble The Many</strong></p>
    <p>If the Few were to give the Many, such things as freedom, happiness, and prosperity, in Strauss&#8217;s estimation, this would turn them into animals.</p>
    <p>The goal of the wise is to ennoble the vulgar. But what could possibly ennoble the vulgar? Only weeping http://tinyurl.com/mtm8l worshipping<a href="http://tinyurl.com/lh2p5"> http://tinyurl.com/lh2p5</a> and sacrificing <a href="http://tinyurl.com/mrs2n">http://tinyurl.com/mrs2n</a> ennobles the many.</p>
    <p><strong>Concluding Remarks</strong></p>
    <p>1) Neo-conservatism is the ultimate stealth weapon of mass destruction whose purpose is to destroy liberty and affluence.</p>
    <p>2) It is ironic that American neoconservatives have decided to conquer the world in the name of liberty and democracy, when they have so little regard for either</p>
    <p>3) It is helpful to think in terms of opposites<br />
    Mother Teresa and Straussians are opposites. Mother Teresa was humble, willing to yield, caring and truthful; whereas, Straussians are exhalative, ruthless, uncaring and deceitful. If Leo Strauss were alive today he might consider the above statement &#8220;seditious&#8221;, one worthy of Ennoblement.</p>
    <p>4) Strauss as a nihilist<br />
    Strauss is a nihilist in the sense that he believes that there is no rational foundation for morality.</p>
    <p>He is an atheist, and he believes that in the absence of God, morality has no grounding. It&#8217;s all about benefiting others and oneself; there is no objective reason for doing so, only rewards and punishments in this life.</p>
    <p>But Strauss is not a nihilist if we mean by the term a denial that there is any truth, a belief that everything is interpretation.</p>
    <p>He does not deny that there is an independent reality. On the contrary, he thinks that independent reality consists<strong> in nature and its &#8220;order of rank&#8221;</strong> &#8211; the high and the low, the superior and the inferior. Like Nietzsche, he believes that the history of western civilization has led to the triumph of the inferior, the rabble &#8211; something they both lamented profoundly.<br />
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    Libs who oppose our President's and Vice President's policies alway rant and rave about the "constitution." Well, it's time we get past the constitution, and set up a new society as envisioned by the German Jewish refugee, Professor Strauss, and by Mr. Wolfowitz, Mr. Perle, Mr. Rumsfeld, Mr. Cheney, Mr. Kristol, Mr. Abrams and so many other wise leaders. We are in a permanent war, with the next stop Iran, and our natural leaders know that they have to stay in charge, no matter if the majority dislikes that fact. The masses of uneducated "voters" know nothing about what America needs or even what they themselves need. Only the educated few, as Professor Strauss said, know these highly complex answers. We need a new "constitution" that outlaws individualism, liberalism and nihilism, enshrines Christianity as the state religion and suppresses uninformed and undesirable dissent against the leadership. Our President called the "constitution" "just a goddamn piece of paper," and rightly so, because it is indeed outdated and outmoded. We need to establish a new form of government that encompasses Professor Strauss' Spartan belief in perpetual war and that secures the natural leaders in their rightful place as the deciders and commanders for the nation and everyone in it.
     
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    Anyone that claims the democracy we have should end " for the good of the masses" is an idiot. I do not support Liberals who think they are smarter and should be exempt from laws and the Constitution and I sure as hell wouldn't support a Conservative that thought that way.

    As to the first post... when Bush takes over as King I will believe that crap, until then it is just hot air. Simple enough question... If Bush were going to declare himself dictator, WHY was there even an election in 2004? Second question , if he craves this absolute power and will do anything for it, including declaring himself dictator, why did he allow the 2006 election results to stand?

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    sounds more like a description of pelosi, reid, kerry, hillary, edawards and the rest....
     
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    That statement couldn't be more partisan-motivated if RSR himself had said it. Not to mention totally ignorant of actual fact.

    You obviously didn't read the entire article. This is what the Bush administration has been about since 9/11...or I should say, since the early 90's when they were first starting to rally together and create a plan for their future...

    And what's most interesting, is that this is the precise time when Cheney made that '94 statement we've all seen the past few days, where he states that an Iraq invasion at that time would be a "quagmire"...when in reality, his, and all his neo-conservative cronies' TRUE beliefs were to the absolute contrary.

    And @ RGS:

    The phrase "Bush admin" isn't synonymous with "Bush did it". That's a cop-out.

    What about Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Perle, Feith, Bolton, Abrams, Cheney, Libby, etc?

    Anyone who thinks Bush himself makes all decisions by himself is an idiot who shouldn't even discuss politics. If he made all his own decisions, he wouldn't need a cabinet. He has advisors help him decide, just like any president would.

    If anything, he's a useful idiot, in that he is easily manipulated into going along with "whatever's clever". Cheney makes the real decisions in this administration, and his ultra-secretive occupation of the office of the VP the past 6 1/2 years is one testament to that. Bush hasn't succeeded in anything in his entire life. He can't even speak simple english grammar properly, let alone make crucial decisions that affect the most prominent nation in the world.

    This Straussian ideology is what has defined the very essence of the Bush administration foreign policy, and that probably has little or NOTHING to do with George W. Bush himself.

    You want me to tell you why i think certain elections were "rigged" and certain ones weren't, and how it affects "Bush's quest for dictatorship on the American throne", so you can do your usual labelling of mentally-challenged nutballs that need meds...

    Sorry, but that fish ain't biting today.
     
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    Neither Bush nor Cheney qualify as "natural leaders". The Spartan ideal you so blithely toss off was that of an egalitarian society where all citizens were equals. Rather like communists. Spartan males entered the agoge at 7 years of age for a 23 year span of military training and service. The women had power and status in Spartan society, something Bush's religious right wing-nut base would find offensive.

    As for the Constitution, it is the cornerstone of the Republic and America. Dispense with it and institute the totalitarian/authoritarian changes you are espousing and America will be no more. Seig heil, y'all.
     
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    What bullshit propaganda....
     
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    like the article isn't partisan .....

    are politicians not supposed to have plans? ..... i recall edwards and kerry had plans for everything .....

    so cheney changed his mind ..... being a flip flopper is a sign of intelligence .... kerry taught me that ... you see, cheney was against the war before he was for it.....

    you really should read things with a symmetrical argument in mind ....

    the few must rule the many.....that is a demo tag line if i had ever heard one....not to mention the intelligent elite must rule.....
     
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    I knew some LaRouchies in college. Incidentally, they've all become Ron Paul supporters.

    I'll pass on the article. I've been subjected to enough insane diatribes against Leo Strauss, thank you.
     

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