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No, I haven't been paying attention. I missed the whole first half of the Ferguson farce. I go many days without watching any US news at all.then you have not paid attention to the hearings or right wing bloggers or FOX news....THAT CONNECTION to the white house was the WHOLE argument of the Republicans having their Dog and Pony shows (hearings)....THE SUBPOENAS were to cast the largest net possible to try to find Lois Learner being directed by the President, or White house to squash these right wing groups to help them in the election.........I didn't even know they were trying to prove Obama was involved. I think the IRS doing something like that is scandal enough for any administration.As is the case with the Benghazi conspiracy theory, the IRS conspiracy theory fails because it's devoid of any facts or evidence that the president was 'involved,' there is no evidence the president instructed IRS officials to target conservative applicants, there is no evidence the president ordered a 'cover up.'
'IRS' exists as a phony scandal motivated solely by unwarranted hatred for the president.
SHEESH, pay attention...
And stop trying to change the focus midstream... this was about Obama's IRS following his direction to squash T'pers through the irs....Obama using the irs for political purposes.
then you have not paid attention to the hearings or right wing bloggers or FOX news....THAT CONNECTION to the white house was the WHOLE argument of the Republicans having their Dog and Pony shows (hearings)....THE SUBPOENAS were to cast the largest net possible to try to find Lois Learner being directed by the President, or White house to squash these right wing groups to help them in the election.........I didn't even know they were trying to prove Obama was involved. I think the IRS doing something like that is scandal enough for any administration.As is the case with the Benghazi conspiracy theory, the IRS conspiracy theory fails because it's devoid of any facts or evidence that the president was 'involved,' there is no evidence the president instructed IRS officials to target conservative applicants, there is no evidence the president ordered a 'cover up.'
'IRS' exists as a phony scandal motivated solely by unwarranted hatred for the president.
SHEESH, pay attention...
And stop trying to change the focus midstream... this was about Obama's IRS following his direction to squash T'pers through the irs....Obama using the irs for political purposes.
Because the interrogators made themselves clear from day one that they were not interested in finding out the truth of what was going on and were only interested in a witch hunt....and her lawyer advised her not to testify, for that reason.then you have not paid attention to the hearings or right wing bloggers or FOX news....THAT CONNECTION to the white house was the WHOLE argument of the Republicans having their Dog and Pony shows (hearings)....THE SUBPOENAS were to cast the largest net possible to try to find Lois Learner being directed by the President, or White house to squash these right wing groups to help them in the election.........I didn't even know they were trying to prove Obama was involved. I think the IRS doing something like that is scandal enough for any administration.As is the case with the Benghazi conspiracy theory, the IRS conspiracy theory fails because it's devoid of any facts or evidence that the president was 'involved,' there is no evidence the president instructed IRS officials to target conservative applicants, there is no evidence the president ordered a 'cover up.'
'IRS' exists as a phony scandal motivated solely by unwarranted hatred for the president.
SHEESH, pay attention...
And stop trying to change the focus midstream... this was about Obama's IRS following his direction to squash T'pers through the irs....Obama using the irs for political purposes.
Ass4all, why did Lerner plead the 5th?
Bull shit! the 5th is used for SELF INCRIMINATION.... what was she HIDING, a WITCH HUNT isn't self incrimination UNLESS SHE HAD SOMETHING TO HIDE!!!Because the interrogators made themselves clear from day one that they were not interested in finding out the truth of what was going on and were only interested in a witch hunt....and her lawyer advised her not to testify, for that reason.then you have not paid attention to the hearings or right wing bloggers or FOX news....THAT CONNECTION to the white house was the WHOLE argument of the Republicans having their Dog and Pony shows (hearings)....THE SUBPOENAS were to cast the largest net possible to try to find Lois Learner being directed by the President, or White house to squash these right wing groups to help them in the election.........I didn't even know they were trying to prove Obama was involved. I think the IRS doing something like that is scandal enough for any administration.As is the case with the Benghazi conspiracy theory, the IRS conspiracy theory fails because it's devoid of any facts or evidence that the president was 'involved,' there is no evidence the president instructed IRS officials to target conservative applicants, there is no evidence the president ordered a 'cover up.'
'IRS' exists as a phony scandal motivated solely by unwarranted hatred for the president.
SHEESH, pay attention...
And stop trying to change the focus midstream... this was about Obama's IRS following his direction to squash T'pers through the irs....Obama using the irs for political purposes.
Ass4all, why did Lerner plead the 5th?
If the congress critters had been professional about their investigation and even tried to find out the truth instead of grand standing and pontificating in the hearings with conjectures left and right, of wrong doing... without having any proof what so ever to support such accusations, and with their fueling the right wing media with a bunch of non proven political posturing junk....she was advised by her lawyer to not subject herself to the republican 3 ring circus.
simple as that...
NOPE, the congress critters, before she even pleaded the 5th to testifiy, before the media, claim she committed criminal activity and all kinds of crapola that they had no proof on which was indeed VERY UNPROFESSIONAL of them and showed the writing on the wall that these congress critters were only interested in grand standing and not the TRUTH, and this was a witch hunt and advised her NOT TO testify with these critters.....Bull shit! the 5th is used for SELF INCRIMINATION.... what was she HIDING, a WITCH HUNT isn't self incrimination UNLESS SHE HAD SOMETHING TO HIDE!!!Because the interrogators made themselves clear from day one that they were not interested in finding out the truth of what was going on and were only interested in a witch hunt....and her lawyer advised her not to testify, for that reason.then you have not paid attention to the hearings or right wing bloggers or FOX news....THAT CONNECTION to the white house was the WHOLE argument of the Republicans having their Dog and Pony shows (hearings)....THE SUBPOENAS were to cast the largest net possible to try to find Lois Learner being directed by the President, or White house to squash these right wing groups to help them in the election.........I didn't even know they were trying to prove Obama was involved. I think the IRS doing something like that is scandal enough for any administration.As is the case with the Benghazi conspiracy theory, the IRS conspiracy theory fails because it's devoid of any facts or evidence that the president was 'involved,' there is no evidence the president instructed IRS officials to target conservative applicants, there is no evidence the president ordered a 'cover up.'
'IRS' exists as a phony scandal motivated solely by unwarranted hatred for the president.
SHEESH, pay attention...
And stop trying to change the focus midstream... this was about Obama's IRS following his direction to squash T'pers through the irs....Obama using the irs for political purposes.
Ass4all, why did Lerner plead the 5th?
If the congress critters had been professional about their investigation and even tried to find out the truth instead of grand standing and pontificating in the hearings with conjectures left and right, of wrong doing... without having any proof what so ever to support such accusations, and with their fueling the right wing media with a bunch of non proven political posturing junk....she was advised by her lawyer to not subject herself to the republican 3 ring circus.
simple as that...
Where is the MOST TRANSPARENT ADMINISTRATION in history?
according to the Statute, 501C4's are suppose to be exclusively charitable organizations, in order for these organizations to get tax exempt status for their donors donating to their charitable cause....
instead we have political groups on the left and on the right, using these 501c4's for political causes, AND we give them a tax write off AND anonymity for these political causes....
And THAT is just plain wrong. Individuals have Campaign Finance donation limits and they can not be done in secret, yet we allow these 501c4 groups give anonymity to these wealthiest of donors and a tax write off as if they are donating to a charity....
something stinks to HIGH HEAVEN on this and you guys are too busy looking at the diversion in front of the curtain and NOT at what is behind the curtain.
NOPE, the congress critters, before she even pleaded the 5th and testified, before the media, claim she committed criminal activity and all kinds of crapola that they had no proof on which was indeed VERY UNPROFESSIONAL of them and showed the writing on the wall that these congress critters were only interested in grand standing and not the TRUTH, and this was a witch hunt and advised her NOT TO testify with these critters.....Bull shit! the 5th is used for SELF INCRIMINATION.... what was she HIDING, a WITCH HUNT isn't self incrimination UNLESS SHE HAD SOMETHING TO HIDE!!!Because the interrogators made themselves clear from day one that they were not interested in finding out the truth of what was going on and were only interested in a witch hunt....and her lawyer advised her not to testify, for that reason.then you have not paid attention to the hearings or right wing bloggers or FOX news....THAT CONNECTION to the white house was the WHOLE argument of the Republicans having their Dog and Pony shows (hearings)....THE SUBPOENAS were to cast the largest net possible to try to find Lois Learner being directed by the President, or White house to squash these right wing groups to help them in the election.........I didn't even know they were trying to prove Obama was involved. I think the IRS doing something like that is scandal enough for any administration.
SHEESH, pay attention...
And stop trying to change the focus midstream... this was about Obama's IRS following his direction to squash T'pers through the irs....Obama using the irs for political purposes.
Ass4all, why did Lerner plead the 5th?
If the congress critters had been professional about their investigation and even tried to find out the truth instead of grand standing and pontificating in the hearings with conjectures left and right, of wrong doing... without having any proof what so ever to support such accusations, and with their fueling the right wing media with a bunch of non proven political posturing junk....she was advised by her lawyer to not subject herself to the republican 3 ring circus.
simple as that...
Where is the MOST TRANSPARENT ADMINISTRATION in history?
You are evading the issue. The charge is that she selectively investigated certain groups because of their political beliefs.according to the Statute, 501C4's are suppose to be exclusively charitable organizations, in order for these organizations to get tax exempt status for their donors donating to their charitable cause....
instead we have political groups on the left and on the right, using these 501c4's for political causes, AND we give them a tax write off AND anonymity for these political causes....
And THAT is just plain wrong. Individuals have Campaign Finance donation limits and they can not be done in secret, yet we allow these 501c4 groups give anonymity to these wealthiest of donors and a tax write off as if they are donating to a charity....
something stinks to HIGH HEAVEN on this and you guys are too busy looking at the diversion in front of the curtain and NOT at what is behind the curtain.
Ridiculous. She didn't lie about a thing. All new groups were looked at. The fact that the TP was new and had so many new groups was taken totally out of context by Issa and other lying Pubs and pundits. The whole thing was a joke on the American people, like the other phony scandals. NO ONE in the Booosh OR Obama administrations knew about AZ ATF gun walking, according to the ATF chief there. Sorry, can't remember the other GOP propaganda, but it's ALL they have, dupes.Watch the LWcrazies line up to make this anything other than an IRS official purposefully targeting groups she politically opposes, then lying to Congress about it.
Count on it.
It's not a diversion, IT IS WHAT THE SCANDAL is ALL about....political groups claiming that they are charities to get this tax write off for their donors and giving them anonymity, while these groups focus and primary cause is political Action and NOT Charity....according to the Statute, 501C4's are suppose to be exclusively charitable organizations, in order for these organizations to get tax exempt status for their donors donating to their charitable cause....
instead we have political groups on the left and on the right, using these 501c4's for political causes, AND we give them a tax write off AND anonymity for these political causes....
And THAT is just plain wrong. Individuals have Campaign Finance donation limits and they can not be done in secret, yet we allow these 501c4 groups give anonymity to these wealthiest of donors and a tax write off as if they are donating to a charity....
something stinks to HIGH HEAVEN on this and you guys are too busy looking at the diversion in front of the curtain and NOT at what is behind the curtain.
How many Conservative groups were held up compared to liberal groups....and WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH HER TAKING THE 5th????? Another DIVERSION from the fact?
It's not a diversion, IT IS WHAT THE SCANDAL is ALL about....political groups claiming that they are charities to get this tax write off for their donors and giving them anonymity, while these groups focus and primary cause is political Action and NOT Charity....according to the Statute, 501C4's are suppose to be exclusively charitable organizations, in order for these organizations to get tax exempt status for their donors donating to their charitable cause....
instead we have political groups on the left and on the right, using these 501c4's for political causes, AND we give them a tax write off AND anonymity for these political causes....
And THAT is just plain wrong. Individuals have Campaign Finance donation limits and they can not be done in secret, yet we allow these 501c4 groups give anonymity to these wealthiest of donors and a tax write off as if they are donating to a charity....
something stinks to HIGH HEAVEN on this and you guys are too busy looking at the diversion in front of the curtain and NOT at what is behind the curtain.
How many Conservative groups were held up compared to liberal groups....and WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH HER TAKING THE 5th????? Another DIVERSION from the fact?
it was the IRS's job to discern whether these groups were truly CHARITIES.....or not.
and what you are looking at is a small period of the irs seeking out these groups that do show more Tea party groups were focused on compared to the Republican groups and democratic leaning groups, but if you look at the whole picture, including all the months they prioritized, many more Democratic groups were looked at and many more Republican groups were looked at by the irs as well....
and since the IRS is limited in their time to audit these groups compared to ALL of the 501c groups out there, trying to prioritize, got them in to their trouble with focusing on key words or key phrases in the groups names....
BUT the republican contention was that Lois Lerner was working with the Administration to squash the Tea Party, and that is simply not the case.
No, that's a tragedy. Pub lying about stand down, no help sent, or a coverup are the scandal, hater dupes. And the CIA STILL thinks that GD RW video was the trigger, like all the other embassy protests/attacks all over the ME earlier that day, in reaction to the Islamic fundie Rush Limbaugh RW a-hole DJ calling for them and demagogging the video. NOT covered on the Pub Propaganda Machine, dupes.It also failed to show coordination between agency officials and Islamic terrorist organizations.
Do you think Lerner will do jail time for lying to Congress?
Doesn't it worry you that first the Pubies admit no Benghazi scandal and now they admit this, too? Is the GOP run by a bunch of really stupid people who have no problem wasting our tax dollars chasing nothing?
I suspect Wittle Dawwil sat on this until the midterm elections were over. Ya' think?
It should worry us all. Benghazi is a scandal it doesn't matter if the R and Ds got into bed together. We all lived through what happened. Stevens is dead, that is a scandal.
When congress Critters go before the media and imply Lerner is involved in criminal activity before they even had their hearing that she ended up pleading the 5th on, that my dear is called UNPROFESSIONAL and also showing your hand and intent and wearing your emotions on your coat sleeve....NOPE, the congress critters, before she even pleaded the 5th and testified, before the media, claim she committed criminal activity and all kinds of crapola that they had no proof on which was indeed VERY UNPROFESSIONAL of them and showed the writing on the wall that these congress critters were only interested in grand standing and not the TRUTH, and this was a witch hunt and advised her NOT TO testify with these critters.....Bull shit! the 5th is used for SELF INCRIMINATION.... what was she HIDING, a WITCH HUNT isn't self incrimination UNLESS SHE HAD SOMETHING TO HIDE!!!Because the interrogators made themselves clear from day one that they were not interested in finding out the truth of what was going on and were only interested in a witch hunt....and her lawyer advised her not to testify, for that reason.then you have not paid attention to the hearings or right wing bloggers or FOX news....THAT CONNECTION to the white house was the WHOLE argument of the Republicans having their Dog and Pony shows (hearings)....THE SUBPOENAS were to cast the largest net possible to try to find Lois Learner being directed by the President, or White house to squash these right wing groups to help them in the election.........
SHEESH, pay attention...
And stop trying to change the focus midstream... this was about Obama's IRS following his direction to squash T'pers through the irs....Obama using the irs for political purposes.
Ass4all, why did Lerner plead the 5th?
If the congress critters had been professional about their investigation and even tried to find out the truth instead of grand standing and pontificating in the hearings with conjectures left and right, of wrong doing... without having any proof what so ever to support such accusations, and with their fueling the right wing media with a bunch of non proven political posturing junk....she was advised by her lawyer to not subject herself to the republican 3 ring circus.
simple as that...
Where is the MOST TRANSPARENT ADMINISTRATION in history?
UNPROFESSIONAL has NO BEARING on her taking the 5th.... MORE DIVERSION, and now complete BULLSHIT!
When congress Critters go before the media and imply Lerner is involved in criminal activity before they even had their hearing that she ended up pleading the 5th on, that my dear is called UNPROFESSIONAL and also showing your hand and intent and wearing your emotions on your coat sleeve....NOPE, the congress critters, before she even pleaded the 5th and testified, before the media, claim she committed criminal activity and all kinds of crapola that they had no proof on which was indeed VERY UNPROFESSIONAL of them and showed the writing on the wall that these congress critters were only interested in grand standing and not the TRUTH, and this was a witch hunt and advised her NOT TO testify with these critters.....Bull shit! the 5th is used for SELF INCRIMINATION.... what was she HIDING, a WITCH HUNT isn't self incrimination UNLESS SHE HAD SOMETHING TO HIDE!!!Because the interrogators made themselves clear from day one that they were not interested in finding out the truth of what was going on and were only interested in a witch hunt....and her lawyer advised her not to testify, for that reason.Ass4all, why did Lerner plead the 5th?
If the congress critters had been professional about their investigation and even tried to find out the truth instead of grand standing and pontificating in the hearings with conjectures left and right, of wrong doing... without having any proof what so ever to support such accusations, and with their fueling the right wing media with a bunch of non proven political posturing junk....she was advised by her lawyer to not subject herself to the republican 3 ring circus.
simple as that...
Where is the MOST TRANSPARENT ADMINISTRATION in history?
UNPROFESSIONAL has NO BEARING on her taking the 5th.... MORE DIVERSION, and now complete BULLSHIT!
so, her lawyer said this is why he advised her not to testify at their dog and pony show....
The group called ANONYMOUS say that they stopped Karl Rove from hacking the vote changes he had planned that would have given Romney the win....and THAT'S why Rove was so shocked and disheveled.“A representative for Mr. Issa, Caitlin Carroll, would not comment on the failure to find a link to the White House but noted that the investigation was not over.”
Of course it isn't.
This is why 'IRS' fails as an inane conspiracy theory – conservatives contriving and seeking to propagate the lie that Obama was somehow 'involved.'
The GOP designed the narrative of obstruction soon after Obama was elected in 2008.
Lots of white Republican men with their shorts pulled down around their knees.
These idiots were completely taken by surprise again when Obama beat Romney in 2012.
Any more proof of that can be easily seen here right on FOX NOISE, Karl Rove, et al.
Anonymous Karl Rove and 2012 Election Fix
No, that's a tragedy. Pub lying about stand down, no help sent, or a coverup are the scandal, hater dupes. And the CIA STILL thinks that GD RW video was the trigger, like all the other embassy protests/attacks all over the ME earlier that day, in reaction to the Islamic fundie Rush Limbaugh RW a-hole DJ calling for them and demagogging the video. NOT covered on the Pub Propaganda Machine, dupes.It also failed to show coordination between agency officials and Islamic terrorist organizations.
Do you think Lerner will do jail time for lying to Congress?
Doesn't it worry you that first the Pubies admit no Benghazi scandal and now they admit this, too? Is the GOP run by a bunch of really stupid people who have no problem wasting our tax dollars chasing nothing?
I suspect Wittle Dawwil sat on this until the midterm elections were over. Ya' think?
It should worry us all. Benghazi is a scandal it doesn't matter if the R and Ds got into bed together. We all lived through what happened. Stevens is dead, that is a scandal.
congress's Statute on it said SPECIFICALLY, exclusively Charitable organizations,It's not a diversion, IT IS WHAT THE SCANDAL is ALL about....political groups claiming that they are charities to get this tax write off for their donors and giving them anonymity, while these groups focus and primary cause is political Action and NOT Charity....according to the Statute, 501C4's are suppose to be exclusively charitable organizations, in order for these organizations to get tax exempt status for their donors donating to their charitable cause....
instead we have political groups on the left and on the right, using these 501c4's for political causes, AND we give them a tax write off AND anonymity for these political causes....
And THAT is just plain wrong. Individuals have Campaign Finance donation limits and they can not be done in secret, yet we allow these 501c4 groups give anonymity to these wealthiest of donors and a tax write off as if they are donating to a charity....
something stinks to HIGH HEAVEN on this and you guys are too busy looking at the diversion in front of the curtain and NOT at what is behind the curtain.
How many Conservative groups were held up compared to liberal groups....and WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH HER TAKING THE 5th????? Another DIVERSION from the fact?
it was the IRS's job to discern whether these groups were truly CHARITIES.....or not.
and what you are looking at is a small period of the irs seeking out these groups that do show more Tea party groups were focused on compared to the Republican groups and democratic leaning groups, but if you look at the whole picture, including all the months they prioritized, many more Democratic groups were looked at and many more Republican groups were looked at by the irs as well....
and since the IRS is limited in their time to audit these groups compared to ALL of the 501c groups out there, trying to prioritize, got them in to their trouble with focusing on key words or key phrases in the groups names....
BUT the republican contention was that Lois Lerner was working with the Administration to squash the Tea Party, and that is simply not the case.
We'll find out once the new Congress gets back into session, and those Lerner e-mails are gone over with a fine tooth comb! Won't we!...501 (c)(4) groups are allowed BY LAW to engage in a limited amount of political activity... WHAT EXACTLY IS A LIMITED AMOUNT, and WHO DECIDES THAT QUESTION?
congress's Statute on it said SPECIFICALLY, exclusively Charitable organizations,It's not a diversion, IT IS WHAT THE SCANDAL is ALL about....political groups claiming that they are charities to get this tax write off for their donors and giving them anonymity, while these groups focus and primary cause is political Action and NOT Charity....according to the Statute, 501C4's are suppose to be exclusively charitable organizations, in order for these organizations to get tax exempt status for their donors donating to their charitable cause....
instead we have political groups on the left and on the right, using these 501c4's for political causes, AND we give them a tax write off AND anonymity for these political causes....
And THAT is just plain wrong. Individuals have Campaign Finance donation limits and they can not be done in secret, yet we allow these 501c4 groups give anonymity to these wealthiest of donors and a tax write off as if they are donating to a charity....
something stinks to HIGH HEAVEN on this and you guys are too busy looking at the diversion in front of the curtain and NOT at what is behind the curtain.
How many Conservative groups were held up compared to liberal groups....and WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH HER TAKING THE 5th????? Another DIVERSION from the fact?
it was the IRS's job to discern whether these groups were truly CHARITIES.....or not.
and what you are looking at is a small period of the irs seeking out these groups that do show more Tea party groups were focused on compared to the Republican groups and democratic leaning groups, but if you look at the whole picture, including all the months they prioritized, many more Democratic groups were looked at and many more Republican groups were looked at by the irs as well....
and since the IRS is limited in their time to audit these groups compared to ALL of the 501c groups out there, trying to prioritize, got them in to their trouble with focusing on key words or key phrases in the groups names....
BUT the republican contention was that Lois Lerner was working with the Administration to squash the Tea Party, and that is simply not the case.
We'll find out once the new Congress gets back into session, and those Lerner e-mails are gone over with a fine tooth comb! Won't we!...501 (c)(4) groups are allowed BY LAW to engage in a limited amount of political activity... WHAT EXACTLY IS A LIMITED AMOUNT, and WHO DECIDES THAT QUESTION?
but the IRS changed the statute in their own rules to read Primarily a Charitable organization, but this IS NOT WHAT THE LAW SAYS....
but by this change that the IRS made all by themselves, this allows them to investigate every single organization to determine if their PRIMARY cause is charitable....and yes, the stupid IRS has been the ones determining this all of these years.... and THAT does make it subjective to their approval or denial....
but the truth is, this is NOT the LAW that congress wrote, the law that was writen says that these 501c4 groups were suppose to be exclusively charities and this is why they could get the tax write off for the donor's donations and be allowed to donate to these groups in SECRET.....
But since we KNOW that near ALL of them are not charities and are used for political action, they should be subject to the same laws that the rest of us in the Nation are subject to when it comes to political donations and NOT be given a tax write off for goodness sakes, as if they are donating to a charity and they should be forced in to the SUNLIGHT with who the donors are, so we KNOW who is truly running the country....
No. It fails because the obama administration repeatedly refuses to honor subpoenas.As is the case with the Benghazi conspiracy theory, the IRS conspiracy theory fails because it's devoid of any facts or evidence that the president was 'involved,' there is no evidence the president instructed IRS officials to target conservative applicants, there is no evidence the president ordered a 'cover up.'
'IRS' exists as a phony scandal motivated solely by unwarranted hatred for the president.
