Crazy Bernie Shakes And Stutters Against Ted Cruz

[TroglocratsRdumb]

 

[Brain357]

LOL, good point! Now answer WHY he did it! It wasn't because of revenue shortfall, it was because he had to cut a DEAL with the Democratic congress. They held him hostage.

But, you have honesty, and I applaud that. Even with his rise in taxes which he was FORCED into, the tax rate was far LOWER than when he took office.

Actually I didn't say it was "far lower." I just said it was lower. Fact is, Reagan had to go back to raising taxes because he realized he couldn't fund many of the government programs, including his "Star wars" missile defense system, with the tax cuts he made.

Really? Really! Did you look at the table? After adjustment for inflation, the revenue almost DOUBLED, lol! And how was the Kennedy tax cuts? Want to look at Coolidge do ya!

Liberal tax cut theory is full of hot air, and we both know it!

And I have an even BETTER idea--------> why don't you look specifically at BILL CLINTONS capital gains tax cut, and see what came in the year before it, and the year AFTER it, as far as in the specific category of capital gains tax revenue.

Explain that! By your way of thinking, it should have tanked!

There is no doubt, your side does not have a leg to stand on; and yet you keep trying. I have no idea why you do with the evidence right in front of your face, unless you are a Democrat operative.

On SOCIAL issues there is certainly an argument of opinion. But on tax cuts, you lose by facts in evidence. In my opinion, if you are just a regular person, I can understand your stance on social issues. But behind the scenes, you should be hoping for the tax cuts, to spur the economy with all the evidence against your position!

How about the Bush tax cuts?

All Presidents in the past who have cut taxes--JFK, Reagan, Bush did it to stimulate the economy--we were in recession's at the time when they did it. There is no excuse for this one.

For 7 long years all we heard from Republicans is they were going to repeal & replace Obamacare with a less costly, more beneficial, efficient health care plan. We also heard (until our ears bled) about the 21 TRILLION dollars in red ink), and then they pull this stunt.

There is no Fiscal Responsibility in this tax bill--it's just a stunt so they can go home and campaign on a pos bill that only gave a tax cut to LARGE corporations while robbing Medicare/medicade to get it done, and as if (large corporations need a tax break anyway.)

So the Pharmacutical industry that is ripping us off on the cost of prescription drugs, making billions & billions of dollars gets their taxes reduced by 15%.
BULLSHIT

I don't think the Republican party could be trusted with running a lemonade stand right now.

Ya, ya, ya............and so, revenue to the treasury is baaaaaaaad according to you. How do YOU personally get out of debt? Do you tell your boss NOT to give you a raise, lol.

Phony-baloney, no leg to stand on, and you are shooting blanks!

Again, the debt tripled under Reagan. I wouldn't call that getting out of debt.

 

[Brain357]

LOL, good point! Now answer WHY he did it! It wasn't because of revenue shortfall, it was because he had to cut a DEAL with the Democratic congress. They held him hostage.

But, you have honesty, and I applaud that. Even with his rise in taxes which he was FORCED into, the tax rate was far LOWER than when he took office.

Actually I didn't say it was "far lower." I just said it was lower. Fact is, Reagan had to go back to raising taxes because he realized he couldn't fund many of the government programs, including his "Star wars" missile defense system, with the tax cuts he made.

Really? Really! Did you look at the table? After adjustment for inflation, the revenue almost DOUBLED, lol! And how was the Kennedy tax cuts? Want to look at Coolidge do ya!

Liberal tax cut theory is full of hot air, and we both know it!

And I have an even BETTER idea--------> why don't you look specifically at BILL CLINTONS capital gains tax cut, and see what came in the year before it, and the year AFTER it, as far as in the specific category of capital gains tax revenue.

Explain that! By your way of thinking, it should have tanked!

There is no doubt, your side does not have a leg to stand on; and yet you keep trying. I have no idea why you do with the evidence right in front of your face, unless you are a Democrat operative.

On SOCIAL issues there is certainly an argument of opinion. But on tax cuts, you lose by facts in evidence. In my opinion, if you are just a regular person, I can understand your stance on social issues. But behind the scenes, you should be hoping for the tax cuts, to spur the economy with all the evidence against your position!

How about the Bush tax cuts?

All Presidents in the past who have cut taxes--JFK, Reagan, Bush did it to stimulate the economy--we were in recession's at the time when they did it. There is no excuse for this one.

For 7 long years all we heard from Republicans is they were going to repeal & replace Obamacare with a less costly, more beneficial, efficient health care plan. We also heard (until our ears bled) about the 21 TRILLION dollars in red ink), and then they pull this stunt.

There is no Fiscal Responsibility in this tax bill--it's just a stunt so they can go home and campaign on a pos bill that only gave a tax cut to LARGE corporations while robbing Medicare/medicade to get it done, and as if (large corporations need a tax break anyway.)

So the Pharmacutical industry that is ripping us off on the cost of prescription drugs, making billions & billions of dollars gets their taxes reduced by 15%.
BULLSHIT

I don't think the Republican party could be trusted with running a lemonade stand right now.

Actually I didn't say it was "far lower." I just said it was lower. Fact is, Reagan had to go back to raising taxes because he realized he couldn't fund many of the government programs, including his "Star wars" missile defense system, with the tax cuts he made.

Really? Really! Did you look at the table? After adjustment for inflation, the revenue almost DOUBLED, lol! And how was the Kennedy tax cuts? Want to look at Coolidge do ya!

Liberal tax cut theory is full of hot air, and we both know it!

And I have an even BETTER idea--------> why don't you look specifically at BILL CLINTONS capital gains tax cut, and see what came in the year before it, and the year AFTER it, as far as in the specific category of capital gains tax revenue.

Explain that! By your way of thinking, it should have tanked!

There is no doubt, your side does not have a leg to stand on; and yet you keep trying. I have no idea why you do with the evidence right in front of your face, unless you are a Democrat operative.

On SOCIAL issues there is certainly an argument of opinion. But on tax cuts, you lose by facts in evidence. In my opinion, if you are just a regular person, I can understand your stance on social issues. But behind the scenes, you should be hoping for the tax cuts, to spur the economy with all the evidence against your position!

Non Sequitur. This discussion isn't about them. I am also not a Democrat. Can you stick to the topic?

Oh, you mean you want to talk about how Ted clobbered Bernie! Well, with the facts I have given and the links to prove it, is it any wonder that Bernie got hosed-)

Deflection by lefties when they are getting their rearends handed to them, and their like minded flock; is an art. It is obvious your name should be Picasso-)

Ted Cruz lied, multiple times.

You know what--------->It is painfully obvious that you two are SCARED to death........because it doesn't take rocket science to verify the facts. You are well aware that if the economy takes off, it will put the final nail in the liberal coffin for at least a decade. You would rather your fellow countrymen/women suffer, then allow the country to prosper. Some of you people really are off the reservation!

I think it is very questionable whether it will take off. Probably more likely the debt will take off. We just tried it with Bush and it was a disaster. When we did it with Reagan the debt tripled. Not sure why you are still such a believer.

 

[BluesLegend]

That Danish citizen torpedoed poor Bernie with one sentence "You want to be able to spend like Denmark without taxing like Denmark". You want free college? OK after handing over 70% of your pay, then hand over another 20% in consumption tax on the 30% you have left over. Sound good?

I think the Danish guy torpedoed Ted. He made it pretty clear Denmark has a better healthcare system and it's half the cost.

And most of the government funding comes from State owned oil production. Add to that the fact the country has less people than Nevada and New Mexico combined and it is pretty easy to see why they can afford what they have.

The point I was referencing was that Ted made Danish healthcare sound terrible, and then the Danish conservative guy made it clear that it is actually much better than ours and at half the cost.

Since we are the largest economy in the world, why couldn't we afford healthcare that is half the cost of what we have now?

Of course it's better, they get to use oil wealth to pay for it. Something that you ignore when you think you can apply the Danish model to our country.

What drives the left insane is that in the USA corporations reap the profits on oil, gas, and coal where in some other countries all natural resources and revenue are government owned.

 

[Thinker101]

That Danish citizen torpedoed poor Bernie with one sentence "You want to be able to spend like Denmark without taxing like Denmark". You want free college? OK after handing over 70% of your pay, then hand over another 20% in consumption tax on the 30% you have left over. Sound good?

I think the Danish guy torpedoed Ted. He made it pretty clear Denmark has a better healthcare system and it's half the cost.

And most of the government funding comes from State owned oil production. Add to that the fact the country has less people than Nevada and New Mexico combined and it is pretty easy to see why they can afford what they have.

The point I was referencing was that Ted made Danish healthcare sound terrible, and then the Danish conservative guy made it clear that it is actually much better than ours and at half the cost.

Since we are the largest economy in the world, why couldn't we afford healthcare that is half the cost of what we have now?

Why couldn't you just move there?

 

[Brain357]

That Danish citizen torpedoed poor Bernie with one sentence "You want to be able to spend like Denmark without taxing like Denmark". You want free college? OK after handing over 70% of your pay, then hand over another 20% in consumption tax on the 30% you have left over. Sound good?

I think the Danish guy torpedoed Ted. He made it pretty clear Denmark has a better healthcare system and it's half the cost.

And most of the government funding comes from State owned oil production. Add to that the fact the country has less people than Nevada and New Mexico combined and it is pretty easy to see why they can afford what they have.

The point I was referencing was that Ted made Danish healthcare sound terrible, and then the Danish conservative guy made it clear that it is actually much better than ours and at half the cost.

Since we are the largest economy in the world, why couldn't we afford healthcare that is half the cost of what we have now?

Why couldn't you just move there?

That does nothing to fix out healthcare. You must be a republican.

 

[Brain357]

That Danish citizen torpedoed poor Bernie with one sentence "You want to be able to spend like Denmark without taxing like Denmark". You want free college? OK after handing over 70% of your pay, then hand over another 20% in consumption tax on the 30% you have left over. Sound good?

I think the Danish guy torpedoed Ted. He made it pretty clear Denmark has a better healthcare system and it's half the cost.

And most of the government funding comes from State owned oil production. Add to that the fact the country has less people than Nevada and New Mexico combined and it is pretty easy to see why they can afford what they have.

The point I was referencing was that Ted made Danish healthcare sound terrible, and then the Danish conservative guy made it clear that it is actually much better than ours and at half the cost.

Since we are the largest economy in the world, why couldn't we afford healthcare that is half the cost of what we have now?

Of course it's better, they get to use oil wealth to pay for it. Something that you ignore when you think you can apply the Danish model to our country.

What drives the left insane is that in the USA corporations reap the profits on oil, gas, and coal where in some other countries all natural resources and revenue are government owned.

Does it? Are lots of huge energy corporations a good thing?

 

[Thinker101]

That Danish citizen torpedoed poor Bernie with one sentence "You want to be able to spend like Denmark without taxing like Denmark". You want free college? OK after handing over 70% of your pay, then hand over another 20% in consumption tax on the 30% you have left over. Sound good?

I think the Danish guy torpedoed Ted. He made it pretty clear Denmark has a better healthcare system and it's half the cost.

And most of the government funding comes from State owned oil production. Add to that the fact the country has less people than Nevada and New Mexico combined and it is pretty easy to see why they can afford what they have.

The point I was referencing was that Ted made Danish healthcare sound terrible, and then the Danish conservative guy made it clear that it is actually much better than ours and at half the cost.

Since we are the largest economy in the world, why couldn't we afford healthcare that is half the cost of what we have now?

Why couldn't you just move there?

That does nothing to fix out healthcare. You must be a republican.

Yea, Obamacare sure "fixed" healthcare, Democrats pouting and sitting on the sidelines will certainly fix our healthcare, handing it out for free won't fix or healthcare. Your idea of "fix" is the same way many people "fix" their dogs.

 

[westwall]

I think the Danish guy torpedoed Ted. He made it pretty clear Denmark has a better healthcare system and it's half the cost.

And most of the government funding comes from State owned oil production. Add to that the fact the country has less people than Nevada and New Mexico combined and it is pretty easy to see why they can afford what they have.

The point I was referencing was that Ted made Danish healthcare sound terrible, and then the Danish conservative guy made it clear that it is actually much better than ours and at half the cost.

Since we are the largest economy in the world, why couldn't we afford healthcare that is half the cost of what we have now?

Of course it's better, they get to use oil wealth to pay for it. Something that you ignore when you think you can apply the Danish model to our country.

What drives the left insane is that in the USA corporations reap the profits on oil, gas, and coal where in some other countries all natural resources and revenue are government owned.

Does it? Are lots of huge energy corporations a good thing?

Yes. Lots of companies ensure low prices for those who can't afford power. Also it pays for the regulatory agencies who make sure they are not violating environmental laws.

Didn't think that through very much did you.

 

[Theowl32]

Ever notice how liberals never answer this question when I present it to them? Never.

If socialism is so great and capitalism is so evil, then explain why all of these people from all of these socialist paradises risk their lives to get here?

When was the last time we saw our poor fat people (get that? our poor people are fat) trying to escape to Cuba? Why aren't mass numbers of poor fat Americans trying to move to any of these socialist countries.

Actually, there is nothing stopping any of them. You would think after watching that fat fuck's movies about healthcare in cuba being so great, that they would be desperate to move there.

The other interesting this is the left, who accuse this country for being racist and destroying the planet cause of the free market, encourage people of all races to come here? Yes, they do. Meanwhile none of them move to any of these socialist countries.

Notice too how whenever you ask any of the losers on the left who blame white people for everything only bring up the so called successes of those socialist countries in Eastern Europe. Huh, the only countries in the world with a higher density of whites than here, and they ALWAYS bring them up. Notice how they never bring up the browner socialist countries, like Turkey or Venezuela?

LOL!!!!

They are pathetic, and trust this. Nothing, and I mean nothing dumber than an American socialist. They listen to the RICH ELITIST EUROPEAN socialist. Yeah, if you are rich.....socialism works for you. Especially if you did not work for the money.

That is who they listen to. They think Bernie is poor. LOL!

 

[Brain357]

I think the Danish guy torpedoed Ted. He made it pretty clear Denmark has a better healthcare system and it's half the cost.

And most of the government funding comes from State owned oil production. Add to that the fact the country has less people than Nevada and New Mexico combined and it is pretty easy to see why they can afford what they have.

The point I was referencing was that Ted made Danish healthcare sound terrible, and then the Danish conservative guy made it clear that it is actually much better than ours and at half the cost.

Since we are the largest economy in the world, why couldn't we afford healthcare that is half the cost of what we have now?

Why couldn't you just move there?

That does nothing to fix out healthcare. You must be a republican.

Yea, Obamacare sure "fixed" healthcare, Democrats pouting and sitting on the sidelines will certainly fix our healthcare, handing it out for free won't fix or healthcare. Your idea of "fix" is the same way many people "fix" their dogs.

Trump said we'd all have the best healthcare. Where is that plan?

 

[Brain357]

And most of the government funding comes from State owned oil production. Add to that the fact the country has less people than Nevada and New Mexico combined and it is pretty easy to see why they can afford what they have.

The point I was referencing was that Ted made Danish healthcare sound terrible, and then the Danish conservative guy made it clear that it is actually much better than ours and at half the cost.

Since we are the largest economy in the world, why couldn't we afford healthcare that is half the cost of what we have now?

Of course it's better, they get to use oil wealth to pay for it. Something that you ignore when you think you can apply the Danish model to our country.

What drives the left insane is that in the USA corporations reap the profits on oil, gas, and coal where in some other countries all natural resources and revenue are government owned.

Does it? Are lots of huge energy corporations a good thing?

Yes. Lots of companies ensure low prices for those who can't afford power. Also it pays for the regulatory agencies who make sure they are not violating environmental laws.

Didn't think that through very much did you.

Think that through? I asked you a question and you had an answer. Yes seems like I thought it through.

 

[Brain357]

Ever notice how liberals never answer this question when I present it to them? Never.

If socialism is so great and capitalism is so evil, then explain why all of these people from all of these socialist paradises risk their lives to get here?

When was the last time we saw our poor fat people (get that? our poor people are fat) trying to escape to Cuba? Why aren't mass numbers of poor fat Americans trying to move to any of these socialist countries.

Actually, there is nothing stopping any of them. You would think after watching that fat fuck's movies about healthcare in cuba being so great, that they would be desperate to move there.

The other interesting this is the left, who accuse this country for being racist and destroying the planet cause of the free market, encourage people of all races to come here? Yes, they do. Meanwhile none of them move to any of these socialist countries.

Notice too how whenever you ask any of the losers on the left who blame white people for everything only bring up the so called successes of those socialist countries in Eastern Europe. Huh, the only countries in the world with a higher density of whites than here, and they ALWAYS bring them up. Notice how they never bring up the browner socialist countries, like Turkey or Venezuela?

LOL!!!!

They are pathetic, and trust this. Nothing, and I mean nothing dumber than an American socialist. They listen to the RICH ELITIST EUROPEAN socialist. Yeah, if you are rich.....socialism works for you. Especially if you did not work for the money.

That is who they listen to. They think Bernie is poor. LOL!

When was the last time somebody risked their life to get here from Denmark?

 

[Thinker101]

And most of the government funding comes from State owned oil production. Add to that the fact the country has less people than Nevada and New Mexico combined and it is pretty easy to see why they can afford what they have.

The point I was referencing was that Ted made Danish healthcare sound terrible, and then the Danish conservative guy made it clear that it is actually much better than ours and at half the cost.

Since we are the largest economy in the world, why couldn't we afford healthcare that is half the cost of what we have now?

Why couldn't you just move there?

That does nothing to fix out healthcare. You must be a republican.

Yea, Obamacare sure "fixed" healthcare, Democrats pouting and sitting on the sidelines will certainly fix our healthcare, handing it out for free won't fix or healthcare. Your idea of "fix" is the same way many people "fix" their dogs.

Trump said we'd all have the best healthcare. Where is that plan?

LOL...you may want to check with some of your Democrat friends that only seem to be interested in obstructing anything and everything from Trump. Or you can check with some of your Republican friends that, after 7-8 years of calling for repeal and replace, can only sit with their thumbs up their rear when they actually have an opportunity to repeal and replace.

 

[Brain357]

The point I was referencing was that Ted made Danish healthcare sound terrible, and then the Danish conservative guy made it clear that it is actually much better than ours and at half the cost.

Since we are the largest economy in the world, why couldn't we afford healthcare that is half the cost of what we have now?

Why couldn't you just move there?

That does nothing to fix out healthcare. You must be a republican.

Yea, Obamacare sure "fixed" healthcare, Democrats pouting and sitting on the sidelines will certainly fix our healthcare, handing it out for free won't fix or healthcare. Your idea of "fix" is the same way many people "fix" their dogs.

Trump said we'd all have the best healthcare. Where is that plan?

LOL...you may want to check with some of your Democrat friends that only seem to be interested in obstructing anything and everything from Trump. Or you can check with some of your Republican friends that, after 7-8 years of calling for repeal and replace, can only sit with their thumbs up their rear when they actually have an opportunity to repeal and replace.

So trump can't deliver. I haven't seen a plan have you? We need to start voting people out.

 

[Thinker101]

Why couldn't you just move there?

That does nothing to fix out healthcare. You must be a republican.

Yea, Obamacare sure "fixed" healthcare, Democrats pouting and sitting on the sidelines will certainly fix our healthcare, handing it out for free won't fix or healthcare. Your idea of "fix" is the same way many people "fix" their dogs.

Trump said we'd all have the best healthcare. Where is that plan?

LOL...you may want to check with some of your Democrat friends that only seem to be interested in obstructing anything and everything from Trump. Or you can check with some of your Republican friends that, after 7-8 years of calling for repeal and replace, can only sit with their thumbs up their rear when they actually have an opportunity to repeal and replace.

So trump can't deliver. I haven't seen a plan have you? We need to start voting people out.

It's not up to Trump to make a plan, it's up to Congress. And yes we need to start voting all of them out.

 

[Brain357]

That does nothing to fix out healthcare. You must be a republican.

Yea, Obamacare sure "fixed" healthcare, Democrats pouting and sitting on the sidelines will certainly fix our healthcare, handing it out for free won't fix or healthcare. Your idea of "fix" is the same way many people "fix" their dogs.

Trump said we'd all have the best healthcare. Where is that plan?

LOL...you may want to check with some of your Democrat friends that only seem to be interested in obstructing anything and everything from Trump. Or you can check with some of your Republican friends that, after 7-8 years of calling for repeal and replace, can only sit with their thumbs up their rear when they actually have an opportunity to repeal and replace.

So trump can't deliver. I haven't seen a plan have you? We need to start voting people out.

It's not up to Trump to make a plan, it's up to Congress. And yes we need to start voting all of them out.

Trump had one when he campaigned. Said Mexico would pay for the wall too. He's no better then the others. Failure so far.

 

[Thinker101]

Yea, Obamacare sure "fixed" healthcare, Democrats pouting and sitting on the sidelines will certainly fix our healthcare, handing it out for free won't fix or healthcare. Your idea of "fix" is the same way many people "fix" their dogs.

Trump said we'd all have the best healthcare. Where is that plan?

LOL...you may want to check with some of your Democrat friends that only seem to be interested in obstructing anything and everything from Trump. Or you can check with some of your Republican friends that, after 7-8 years of calling for repeal and replace, can only sit with their thumbs up their rear when they actually have an opportunity to repeal and replace.

So trump can't deliver. I haven't seen a plan have you? We need to start voting people out.

It's not up to Trump to make a plan, it's up to Congress. And yes we need to start voting all of them out.

Trump had one when he campaigned. Said Mexico would pay for the wall too. He's no better then the others. Failure so far.

Trumps plan was to sign a repeal and replace bill when one was provided. As far as the wall, currently there are something like 10 prototypes down in San Diego. There is some planning that is required before building anything.

 

[Brain357]

Trump said we'd all have the best healthcare. Where is that plan?

LOL...you may want to check with some of your Democrat friends that only seem to be interested in obstructing anything and everything from Trump. Or you can check with some of your Republican friends that, after 7-8 years of calling for repeal and replace, can only sit with their thumbs up their rear when they actually have an opportunity to repeal and replace.

So trump can't deliver. I haven't seen a plan have you? We need to start voting people out.

It's not up to Trump to make a plan, it's up to Congress. And yes we need to start voting all of them out.

Trump had one when he campaigned. Said Mexico would pay for the wall too. He's no better then the others. Failure so far.

Trumps plan was to sign a repeal and replace bill when one was provided. As far as the wall, currently there are something like 10 prototypes down in San Diego. There is some planning that is required before building anything.

So he suckered people into voting for him based on Congress who has done nothing in years was going to repeal and replace obamacare?



Sounds like he had a plan.... where is it?

I don't see Mexico paying for that wall.