Lewdog
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Past Presidents--JFK, Reagan, G.W. Bush cut taxes to stimulate the economy. Today we have a fairly good economy--there's no need to cut taxes. I just don't see the sense in this. As before the middle class isn't going to get a huge tax cut, they never have. So this cut will go to large corporations on the pretense, (according to Cruz) that they'll keep jobs in this country. They won't it will still be much cheaper to manufacture overseas than in the U.S. because of our wages and payroll taxes.
This tax cut doesn't make any sense, especially if they're having to cut billions out of Medicade/Medicare to pay for it. Did everyone forget about that 21 TRILLION dollar deficit?
If Trump were to keep his word, he wouldn't sign off on cutting Medicaid and Medicare... But who expects him to keep his word on anything?
This bill just doesn't make any sense at all. All Presidents in the past cut taxes to stimulate the economy. We don't need it. The middle class isn't going to get a huge tax cut, they never have. Corporations aren't going to stay in the U.S. over a tax cut. The biggest expense to them is payroll, and payroll taxes--and that's why they go overseas.
But to cut billions out of Medicare/Medicade programs to pay for tax cuts for large corporations is to much too take. No talk at all about that 21 TRILLION dollar deficit. It's like it doesn't exist.
Or it could be that suicide there is not as frowned upon as it is here?
"71% of Denmark's population is in favor of legalizing assisted suicide."
Assisted suicide - Wikipedia
Which doesn't address the question if you are so happy why do you want to kill yourself. It's a pretty straight forward question don't you think?
It's not about the happy people killing themselves. Just because the all around group is happy, doesn't mean there aren't people within them that are unhappy.
This year the Cincinnati Reds had a .253 team batting average, does that mean they don't have a player on their team that his under .225?
Which doesn't address the question if you are so happy why do you want to kill yourself. It's a pretty straight forward question don't you think?
It's not about the happy people killing themselves. Just because the all around group is happy, doesn't mean there aren't people within them that are unhappy.
This year the Cincinnati Reds had a .253 team batting average, does that mean they don't have a player on their team that his under .225?
That's a really terrible analogy. Killing yourself is the ultimate act. I think there is a problem with how the "experts" measure "happiness". Every place they claim is "happy" is also prone to self oblivion. The two don't compute.
So let me get this straight...Cruz that wants to hand out tax cuts to corporations that outsourced, offshored and screw over the American worker is somehow right in your mind? lol...Apple and GE paid next to nothing the past few years and you think they should pay less or maybe get paid for screwing over America?
Cruz wants to turn America into a third world shit hole and let the robbers run away with the loot. Ted cruz is the liar and fool here.
Bernie Sanders had a bill to get drugs at cheaper costs, and even buy them from Canada... Congress rejected it. Fuck them, they are just tools for pharmaceutical lobbyist.
I agree with you on this. Congress is bought and paid for. That's why trump is doing what he is doing. Allowing people to buy health insurance across State lines will be one of the best things any one has done to reduce costs.
Total fantasy. You seriously have to be cluess about the insurance industry and how they operate in state regulatory frameworks and local provider networks to say that.
ACA provides for pacts between states to sell across state lines - ZERO takers.
There are also 3 states that permit buying across state lines - again ZERO takers.
The reason we need tax cuts, is to INCREASE revenue with a growing economy. To many people use counter-intuitive logic to come to the conclusion, that it COSTS us REVENUE!
You can research it yourself, (and they all say the same thing) or you can go with this one----->Who Really Pays Uncle Sam's Bills?
Now, I do not one lefty to come here and start talking about the DEFICIT; not one of you! The deficit has NOTHING to do with how much revenue INCREASED, it has to do with how much politicians spent. You need to compare apples to apples, and NOT oranges!
Look at the Kennedy cuts, look at the Regan cuts, then look at the GW cuts.............and remember, LOOK when the GW legislation was passed, not his Presidency. And if you don't like these and want to try your luck with another, look back at Coolidge, which is not in this chart.
So do not EVER again come up with poppycock like cuts COST the government monies. That is a FALSE statement! The GROWTH from them eats up the loss, proven by these examples.
And so, you have 3 examples of CUTS from this chart, and if you want to go back to Coolidge, do that also for 4 total examples. Now go ahead, produce ONE from the archives that support your nonsense! We dare you!
I hate to tell you this, but despite the fact Reagan lowered taxes once as his part of the idea of "trickle down economics," it failed and he raised taxes in '82, '84, '85, '86, and '87.
"Two bills passed in 1982 and 1984 together "constituted the biggest tax increase ever enacted during peacetime," Thorndike said."
Taxes: What people forget about Reagan - Sep. 8, 2010
""Many Republicans decried the use of additional revenue to help offset any increase in national debt," Connolly said. "Apparently, they forgot that when faced with rising deficits, Ronald Reagan looked to revenue increases, broadening the tax base, closing loopholes and raising taxes. Yes, he raised taxes in 1982, 1984, 1985, 1986 and 1987.""
Rep. Gerry Connolly says Reagan raised taxes during five years of presidency
Now with that said, taxes overall may have been down as a whole during Reagan's 8 years, it was nothing like he promised, because after making huge tax cuts, he eventually kept adding taxes back including the highest one at the time during any peace time period.
LOL, good point! Now answer WHY he did it! It wasn't because of revenue shortfall, it was because he had to cut a DEAL with the Democratic congress. They held him hostage.
But, you have honesty, and I applaud that. Even with his rise in taxes which he was FORCED into, the tax rate was far LOWER than when he took office.
Actually I didn't say it was "far lower." I just said it was lower. Fact is, Reagan had to go back to raising taxes because he realized he couldn't fund many of the government programs, including his "Star wars" missile defense system, with the tax cuts he made.