Court rules health care bill is Constitutional

Forcing you to buy something from someone else is not "intervening in a market," shit face.

Judge Moon disagrees:

The imposition of assessments is a legitimate means of regulating commerce, and "f regulation is the primary purpose of a statute, revenue raised under the statute will be considered a fee rather than a tax." South Carolina ex rel. Tindal V. Block, 717 F.2d 874, 887 (4th Cir. 1983) (exaction on commercially-sold milk not a tax); see also Rodgers v. United States, 138 F.2d 992, 994 (6th Cir. 1943) (cotton marketing quotas not a tax); United States v. Stangland, 242 F.2d 843, 848 (7th Cir. 1957) (wheat marketing quotas not a tax).


None of those other people are proposing individual mandates.

Ryan and Coburn propose auto-enrolling people who lack insurance into plans inside the health insurance exchanges created by their bills. Can the government place you into a default private plan?

But you will be fined for not doing so, or having a car of equal standards.

There are already fines for not meeting CAFE standards. Those fines are on companies, not individuals, but then again in their attack on the ACA Liberty argued against the employer/corporate penalties on the same grounds as they opposed the individual mandate.

What are they going to do with the people that can't affrord insurance but make to much for the free ins?

Give them refundable tax credits (provided their income is below 400% of the federal poverty line) to help them pay their premiums--that's where half the price of the legislation comes from. People without affordable options (that is, if their required contribution for the cheapest plan in their area exceeds 8% of their income) are not required to buy insurance.
 
The sooner this ends up at the SCOTUS the better.
 
Another idiot asshole that tries to tie employment benefit to entitlement handout to those who do nothing for it....

Hmm, who does nothing for their entitlement, according to traveler?

Comparing an EARNED retirement package for services rendered over 20 years or less if medically retired to a poor private citizen that is not working and living off the Government tit is hilarious.

I keep asking you retards if Civilian Company retirement packages are also social programs. I almost never get an answer.

Lets recap shall we? A military person puts in 20 YEARS of service in a low paying job at the beck and call of the military and the Government, we give up rights to serve, we risk life and limb even in peace time maneuvers and training exercises, we agree to DIE if needed for our Country, to be maimed and crippled if required for our Country.

Part of the employment package is a promised retirement after 20 years or if so medically damaged that you rate a certain percentage. It is an EARNED package, earned with service and sacrifice. It is part of an EMPLOYMENT package.

It is not GIVEN to anyone. It is EARNED by hard work and sacrifice.

And you dumb fucks want to compare THAT to a program that just awards some lazy ass with free medical coverage for being to incompetent or to lazy to work for a living?

Fuck off you RETARDS.

Yep. Demanding somethign just because they're a citizen in name only having done zero productive otherwise.

100% sir. Agreed.
 
The Government has no money except what they take with taxes and fees. All taken from the people.

The Government IS the people

And then that little minority of people do eveything in their power to ensure they are ensconced in power while robbing from the people that sent them.

Great GIG if you can snag it eh?

Those representing the people won a majority of the vote. As you saw in the last three elections they live a tenuous life and are subject to the whims of the people who elect them.
 
The Government IS the people

And then that little minority of people do eveything in their power to ensure they are ensconced in power while robbing from the people that sent them.

Great GIG if you can snag it eh?

Those representing the people won a majority of the vote. As you saw in the last three elections they live a tenuous life and are subject to the whims of the people who elect them.

So in your mind is granted Carte Blanche to run roughshod over others.

Right?
 
And then that little minority of people do eveything in their power to ensure they are ensconced in power while robbing from the people that sent them.

Great GIG if you can snag it eh?

Those representing the people won a majority of the vote. As you saw in the last three elections they live a tenuous life and are subject to the whims of the people who elect them.

So in your mind is granted Carte Blanche to run roughshod over others.

Right?

It is a political system that has worked for the last 225 years. We elect representatives who most closely meet our political views. If we are not happy...we vote them out

You have something against America? Which political system do you recommend?
 
Those representing the people won a majority of the vote. As you saw in the last three elections they live a tenuous life and are subject to the whims of the people who elect them.

So in your mind is granted Carte Blanche to run roughshod over others.

Right?

It is a political system that has worked for the last 225 years. We elect representatives who most closely meet our political views. If we are not happy...we vote them out

You have something against America? Which political system do you recommend?

Using unelected bureaucrats to legislate is not the American system.
 
So in your mind is granted Carte Blanche to run roughshod over others.

Right?

It is a political system that has worked for the last 225 years. We elect representatives who most closely meet our political views. If we are not happy...we vote them out

You have something against America? Which political system do you recommend?

Using unelected bureaucrats to legislate is not the American system.

Interesting...care to give some specifics?
 
So in your mind is granted Carte Blanche to run roughshod over others.

Right?

It is a political system that has worked for the last 225 years. We elect representatives who most closely meet our political views. If we are not happy...we vote them out

You have something against America? Which political system do you recommend?

Using unelected bureaucrats to legislate is not the American system.

Exactly. RW knows this. He's just being pigheaded or stupid. I don't know which is worse.
 
Those representing the people won a majority of the vote. As you saw in the last three elections they live a tenuous life and are subject to the whims of the people who elect them.

So in your mind is granted Carte Blanche to run roughshod over others.

Right?

It is a political system that has worked for the last 225 years. We elect representatives who most closely meet our political views. If we are not happy...we vote them out

You have something against America? Which political system do you recommend?

Dumbasses keep electing the very same mindset that means to take 'em down. Where's the logic in that?
 
So in your mind is granted Carte Blanche to run roughshod over others.

Right?

It is a political system that has worked for the last 225 years. We elect representatives who most closely meet our political views. If we are not happy...we vote them out

You have something against America? Which political system do you recommend?

Dumbasses keep electing the very same mindset that means to take 'em down. Where's the logic in that?

The logic in that is that, like it or not...the voters are always right
You may not like the outcome but the voters have the ultimate decision

That is why America has the greatest political system in the world
 

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