catzmeow
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How many Americans need to die in the middle east before that debt is considered paid, Becki? What has Israel done for us lately?
Let me be clear: I am not anti-Israel. I just think the relationship should be mutually beneficial. I see the benefits to Israel; what are the benefits to the U.S.?
Here are the benefits to Israel:
What has $115 billion and all of the special treatment that Israel receives given us?
p.s. The report is very interesting.
This time even I'm with you which is why I started the thread. Perhaps I didn't articulate my point well when I first posted it.
I'm not anti-Israel either. And I support helping them but I often wonder just what do we get as a benefit?
Some will say we "don't have to get a benefit."
We do the heavy lifting so to speak and they reap a far greater reward then we do.
Sure we can discsuss it in terms of morality and "doing the right thing". All nice phrases.
Getting rid of Saddam was doing the right the thing as well but does everyone agree it was worth it?
I keep hearing Israel can manage it alone. Then manage it! Why does the U.S. have to draw the line in the sand?
I also hear the argument abouit Iran getting a nuke. All true but is that in and of itself a good enough reason. I also heard the argument that if Iran gets one they could give it to terrorist.
Do you reallly thing that's the only way they can get one? Pakistan has nukes and they aren't exactly well protected.
There's a case to be made either way and that was my only intent with this thread. But naturally I am lambasted over it.
It comes with playing devil's advocate I suppose.
You pose some very good ideas. Following your line of reasoning, we certainly didn't need to intervene in Somalia, or in any part of Africa. When Clinton said that the world would never let Rwanda happen again, why did he say that? Shouldn't we let those natives kill one another? Why are we sending aid to Haiti in the first place, it's not like they will never get another hurricane? What's with this world fight against AIDS anyway? How much did we spend on Indonesia when they had a tsunami? It's not going to stop tsunamis.
Come to think of it, why doesn't Europe just cut ties to Greece, it's a basket case that the Greeks created themselves. Just let it go.
What compelling human rights catastrophe is currently occurring in Israel that requires $115 billion in intervention?