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    ...well controversial since it's coming from me. But just what does Israel do for the U.S.?

    I'm not ant-Isreal but I am curious just why we need to risk our children's lives for Israel.

    If we weren't so dependent on ME oil we wouldn't need to be concerned with Israel other than in a humanitarian way.

    When the shit hits the fan and it likely will in a few weeks and Obama tells us that we will act in conjunction with out allies, we know that our kids will be the bulk of those "allies".

    If you say they provide intlleigence info, I'm pretty sure that we can get that on our own.

    But sticking to the question.


    What doies Israel do for us?

    And remember, I'm merely playing Devil's' Advocate here so don't jump all over my ass...just answer the question please.
     
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    I think a better question would be why Israel should exist in the first place. It's not just about us and Israel and the larger issue should be addressed.

    I can name one reason: The Holocaust. Jews have been despised and murdered by the train load all throughout history and there's no reason to expect people's attitudes toward the Jew's have changed. Heck, just look at their neighbors for confirmation of that!

    After what happened to them during the Hitler years, why SHOULDN'T they have a place where they can be safe and defend themselves? The rest of the world has a moral obligation to ensure that another Holocaust doesn't happen. As the Jew's themselves say, "Never again."

    For those who are unsure about the existence of Israel or question what they can do for us...a question: Would you REALLY be content to sit and watch the wholesale slaughter of Israeli's live on CNN? Make no mistake, that's exactly what would happen if we withdrew our support for the Jewish state.
     
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    True statement it is about what morally right.
     
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    No issue there but again why should we risk American lives for Israel and what do we get in return that makes sacrificing our young worth it?

    It's not a matter of whether we're content watching a slaughter. Actually some on the left would be okay with it.

    Why do we always have to fight the world's battles? And please no, "because we are the strongest."

    Their undying thanks does't bring back the lives of dead American youth/soldiers.
     
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    Would you sacrifice your own son's or daughter's lives to be morally right? Sounds great on paper.
     
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    Israel is not our 51st state.

    (although some people act like it is)

    Nor does the Constitution say we are to defend it, or any other foreign nation.
     
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    We have had a long history of alliance with France, England, and Isreal. Yet we told them to cease and desist during the Suez Canal Crisis in 1956. And President Eisenhower put some teeth into it with economic tools.

    If Isreal is the aggressor, when there is not a clear threat to the existance of Isreal, then we have no obligation to support Isreal. Same goes for any nation that is our ally. If Isreal is defending itself against a threat to it's existance, then we will and should aid Isreal as we would any other ally.
     

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