Constitutional oath Question

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  1. hateriarch
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    When one reads the original Constitution as seen in this link

    www archives gov exhibits/charters/slurp_file.php?fileref=3

    It clearly states in the preamble that we do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    However, when I look to the oath of office taken by a Senator, their oath is to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.

    "The current oath was enacted in 1884:
    I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God."

    So I called my Senators office to ask them, where I can get a copy of the Constitution of the United States of America. I tried to explain to them that the Senator is swearing to uphold and defend a Constitution that is not the original Constitution as the original, as previously stated, is a the Constitution for the United States of America.

    Don't the differences mean something? Anyone here care to chime in on this question and what the difference means?
     
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    Go to THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION - We the People for a complete online copy!

    To my knowledge, this is the only oath included:

    8: Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:--
    Here are the various oaths and their histories @ Official US Oaths of Office

    Whatever your problem, I don't see it or what is bothering you. If your senator is doing what you thing s/he should, take care of it next time elections roll around.
     
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    What Constitution are they swearing to if not the United States Constitution?
     
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    I have read it. The problem is they swear to

    the Constitution 'OF' the United States of America

    The only Constitution I can find is

    The Constitution 'FOR' the United states of America

    So they must be swearing to uphold a Constitution that doesn't exist? Or there are two of them.
     
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    You're playing a semantics game, they are the same. Only one valid constitution exist for the US. If you want to get into a discussion if they abide by their oath, that would be a whole different subject.
     
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    Well we know none of them do, maybe 1 or 2, but is this why? You call it semantics but legally of and for have different meanings.
     

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