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The left elite must laugh their asses off at how easy it is to dupe many Americans.

Here is a good summary of the whole Russia Hoax. This should be required reading for all Americans. These kinds of leftist hoaxes likely will continue, since they are very effective with many Americans.


Russian collusion was no more than “conspiracy porn” created by Clinton and Obama
After 675 days, 25 million dollars, 2,800 subpoenas, over 500 witnesses, and more than 500 search warrants, all of which took up the time of 20 prosecutors and nearly 50 FBI agents, Special Counsel Robert Mueller submitted the results of his “witch hunt” to the Attorney General of the United States of America, Robert Barr.

Barr, in turn, submitted a four-page overview highlighting the following conclusions: There are no further indictments of anyone and there was no collusion with Russia by any American. Barr and Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, whom Mueller reported to, determined that there was no obstruction by President Trump.

But, for the past three years, elite Democratic Party partisans, along with their media partners, force-fed thousands of “Bombshell” headlines to millions of Americans, without ever providing a lick of evidence. The absence of evidence supporting their outrageous lies coupled with the results of Mueller’s investigation and Barr’s conclusions establishes collusion – not between Russia and the Trump family to influence the 2016 presidential election, but amongst the Democrats and mass media to delegitimize the
Trump presidency.

The Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said, “We saw cold, hard evidence of the Trump campaign, and indeed the Trump family, eagerly intending to collude with Russia.” Pelosi has never presented any evidence to support this claim or any of the many other suspect claims the speaker has made.

The Chairman of House Intelligence Committee Adam Schiff said, “I have evidence of collusion with Russia and kompromat. It’s all in plain sight.” Schiff regularly repeated this claim to the public yet never provided any evidence. He appeared on CNN, MSNBC, NBC, and ABC over 150 times and was never called out for repeating these lies over and over again.

Congressman Eric Swalwell on MSNBC said, “Donald Trump is a Russian agent; we have evidence Trump and his family colluded with Russia.” Swalwell has parroted this and many other claims since 2016. Evidence provided: none.

Congresswoman Maxine Waters stated, “Trump and his buddies are scumbags who are all Putin’s puppets; we will Impeach 45.” Waters has been shrieking “Impeach 45” since election day in 2016. Water’s reason: she hates Trump and the entire Grand Old Party “GOP.”


...more at the link...
Russian collusion was no more than “conspiracy porn” created by Clinton and Obama

...can you believe this site does not allow you to use the word PORN in a thread title...LOL!
 
A particularly funny moment on CNN when someone mentioned that the Clinton staff literally smashed their cellphones with hammers in the White House when the Clinton investigation began...



I want everyone seeing this video, take 2 frigging seconds and imagine if Trumps staff did this. Watch the CNN host's reaction to confirming this was true.
How different would her reaction be if this was Trumps admin?

And THAT is all you need to know about the media.
 
The left elite must laugh their asses off at how easy it is to dupe many Americans.

Here is a good summary of the whole Russia Hoax. This should be required reading for all Americans. These kinds of leftist hoaxes likely will continue, since they are very effective with many Americans.


Russian collusion was no more than “conspiracy porn” created by Clinton and Obama
After 675 days, 25 million dollars, 2,800 subpoenas, over 500 witnesses, and more than 500 search warrants, all of which took up the time of 20 prosecutors and nearly 50 FBI agents, Special Counsel Robert Mueller submitted the results of his “witch hunt” to the Attorney General of the United States of America, Robert Barr.

Barr, in turn, submitted a four-page overview highlighting the following conclusions: There are no further indictments of anyone and there was no collusion with Russia by any American. Barr and Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, whom Mueller reported to, determined that there was no obstruction by President Trump.

But, for the past three years, elite Democratic Party partisans, along with their media partners, force-fed thousands of “Bombshell” headlines to millions of Americans, without ever providing a lick of evidence. The absence of evidence supporting their outrageous lies coupled with the results of Mueller’s investigation and Barr’s conclusions establishes collusion – not between Russia and the Trump family to influence the 2016 presidential election, but amongst the Democrats and mass media to delegitimize the
Trump presidency.

The Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said, “We saw cold, hard evidence of the Trump campaign, and indeed the Trump family, eagerly intending to collude with Russia.” Pelosi has never presented any evidence to support this claim or any of the many other suspect claims the speaker has made.

The Chairman of House Intelligence Committee Adam Schiff said, “I have evidence of collusion with Russia and kompromat. It’s all in plain sight.” Schiff regularly repeated this claim to the public yet never provided any evidence. He appeared on CNN, MSNBC, NBC, and ABC over 150 times and was never called out for repeating these lies over and over again.

Congressman Eric Swalwell on MSNBC said, “Donald Trump is a Russian agent; we have evidence Trump and his family colluded with Russia.” Swalwell has parroted this and many other claims since 2016. Evidence provided: none.

Congresswoman Maxine Waters stated, “Trump and his buddies are scumbags who are all Putin’s puppets; we will Impeach 45.” Waters has been shrieking “Impeach 45” since election day in 2016. Water’s reason: she hates Trump and the entire Grand Old Party “GOP.”


...more at the link...
Russian collusion was no more than “conspiracy porn” created by Clinton and Obama

...can you believe this site does not allow you to use the word PORN in a thread title...LOL!


What better way to get away with true conspiracy by covering it up by always accusing your opponent of what YOU are guilty of? The Democrats are a virtual Who's Who of conspiracy and collusion, so of course, beat the never-ending drum of claims against Trump in an attempt to keep him on his heels until you can get him out of office:
  • Clinton-Lorel thefts
  • Clinton-Charlie Trie/Johnny Chung/Chinagate
  • Clinton Foundation
  • Clinton Global Initiative
  • Clinton Benghazi Coverup
  • Clinton Email
  • Clinton Uranium One
  • Clinton-Russian Reset
  • Obama-IRS/Romney Election scandal
  • Clinton/DNC/Obama Steele Dossier
Yeah, let's tie up years and millions of dollars worrying about why Trump was trying to secure a real estate deal over in Russia.
 
The left elite must laugh their asses off at how easy it is to dupe many Americans.

Here is a good summary of the whole Russia Hoax. This should be required reading for all Americans. These kinds of leftist hoaxes likely will continue, since they are very effective with many Americans.


Russian collusion was no more than “conspiracy porn” created by Clinton and Obama
After 675 days, 25 million dollars, 2,800 subpoenas, over 500 witnesses, and more than 500 search warrants, all of which took up the time of 20 prosecutors and nearly 50 FBI agents, Special Counsel Robert Mueller submitted the results of his “witch hunt” to the Attorney General of the United States of America, Robert Barr.

Barr, in turn, submitted a four-page overview highlighting the following conclusions: There are no further indictments of anyone and there was no collusion with Russia by any American. Barr and Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, whom Mueller reported to, determined that there was no obstruction by President Trump.

But, for the past three years, elite Democratic Party partisans, along with their media partners, force-fed thousands of “Bombshell” headlines to millions of Americans, without ever providing a lick of evidence. The absence of evidence supporting their outrageous lies coupled with the results of Mueller’s investigation and Barr’s conclusions establishes collusion – not between Russia and the Trump family to influence the 2016 presidential election, but amongst the Democrats and mass media to delegitimize the
Trump presidency.

The Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said, “We saw cold, hard evidence of the Trump campaign, and indeed the Trump family, eagerly intending to collude with Russia.” Pelosi has never presented any evidence to support this claim or any of the many other suspect claims the speaker has made.

The Chairman of House Intelligence Committee Adam Schiff said, “I have evidence of collusion with Russia and kompromat. It’s all in plain sight.” Schiff regularly repeated this claim to the public yet never provided any evidence. He appeared on CNN, MSNBC, NBC, and ABC over 150 times and was never called out for repeating these lies over and over again.

Congressman Eric Swalwell on MSNBC said, “Donald Trump is a Russian agent; we have evidence Trump and his family colluded with Russia.” Swalwell has parroted this and many other claims since 2016. Evidence provided: none.

Congresswoman Maxine Waters stated, “Trump and his buddies are scumbags who are all Putin’s puppets; we will Impeach 45.” Waters has been shrieking “Impeach 45” since election day in 2016. Water’s reason: she hates Trump and the entire Grand Old Party “GOP.”


...more at the link...
Russian collusion was no more than “conspiracy porn” created by Clinton and Obama

...can you believe this site does not allow you to use the word PORN in a thread title...LOL!

Whelp --- I agree with you on one (1) thing. Thread titles shouldn't be censoring the word "porn" or for that matter the word (anything).

As far as "not a shred of evidence" --- the powers of self-delusion continue to amaze:



I mean, this is not only public but how do you find a way to "forget" it?

There's also "would means wouldn't" as soon as Pootin is out of earshot, and all the knob-polishing of the Russkie head honcho including denying he even invaded Ukraine, etc. I mean he pandered to Pootin more than the people of Iowa.

Down the memory hole, huh comrade?

Then there was this, reported in 2016:

>> A computer scientist tracking malware and going by the name “Tea Leaves” claims to have discovered a pattern of conversation that appears to tie a server registered to the Donald Trump organization to two Russian servers registered to "Alfa Bank."

According to a new report from Slate, computer scientists began looking into GOP presidential nominee’s servers in the wake of the hack into the Democratic National Committee (DNC) that U.S. intelligence has blamed on Russian actors.

.... Tea Leaves discovered a bank in Moscow that continually contacted a server registered to the Trump Organization. Further research of the pattern of conversations revealed they would occur during office hours in both New York and Moscow, Slate reported. <<​

From the referenced Slate article:

>> The researchers quickly dismissed their initial fear that the logs represented a malware attack. The communication wasn’t the work of bots. The irregular pattern of server lookups actually resembled the pattern of human conversation—conversations that began during office hours in New York and continued during office hours in Moscow. It dawned on the researchers that this wasn’t an attack, but a sustained relationship between a server registered to the Trump Organization and two servers registered to an entity called Alfa Bank.

The researchers had initially stumbled in their diagnosis because of the odd configuration of Trump’s server. “I’ve never seen a server set up like that,” says Christopher Davis, who runs the cybersecurity firm HYAS InfoSec Inc. and won a FBI Director Award for Excellence for his work tracking down the authors of one of the world’s nastiest botnet attacks. “It looked weird, and it didn’t pass the sniff test.” The server was first registered to Trump’s business in 2009 and was set up to run consumer marketing campaigns. It had a history of sending mass emails on behalf of Trump-branded properties and products. Researchers were ultimately convinced that the server indeed belonged to Trump. (Click here to see the server’s registration record.) But now this capacious server handled a strangely small load of traffic, such a small load that it would be hard for a company to justify the expense and trouble it would take to maintain it. “I get more mail in a day than the server handled,” Davis says.

That wasn’t the only oddity. When the researchers pinged the server, they received error messages. They concluded that the server was set to accept only incoming communication from a very small handful of IP addresses.

... Eighty-seven percent of the DNS lookups involved the two Alfa Bank servers. “It’s pretty clear that it’s not an open mail server,” Camp told me. “These organizations are communicating in a way designed to block other people out.”

Earlier this month, the group of computer scientists passed the logs to Paul Vixie. In the world of DNS experts, there’s no higher authority. Vixie wrote central strands of the DNS code that makes the internet work. After studying the logs, he concluded, “The parties were communicating in a secretive fashion. The operative word is secretive. This is more akin to what criminal syndicates do if they are putting together a project.” Put differently, the logs suggested that Trump and Alfa had configured something like a digital hotline connecting the two entities, shutting out the rest of the world, and designed to obscure its own existence. Over the summer, the scientists observed the communications trail from a distance. <<

--- All that sound like "not a shred of evidence" to you?

I dunno man, y'all Rumpbots are reminding us of Jim Marshall.
 
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The left elite must laugh their asses off at how easy it is to dupe many Americans.

Here is a good summary of the whole Russia Hoax. This should be required reading for all Americans. These kinds of leftist hoaxes likely will continue, since they are very effective with many Americans.


Russian collusion was no more than “conspiracy porn” created by Clinton and Obama
After 675 days, 25 million dollars, 2,800 subpoenas, over 500 witnesses, and more than 500 search warrants, all of which took up the time of 20 prosecutors and nearly 50 FBI agents, Special Counsel Robert Mueller submitted the results of his “witch hunt” to the Attorney General of the United States of America, Robert Barr.

Barr, in turn, submitted a four-page overview highlighting the following conclusions: There are no further indictments of anyone and there was no collusion with Russia by any American. Barr and Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, whom Mueller reported to, determined that there was no obstruction by President Trump.

But, for the past three years, elite Democratic Party partisans, along with their media partners, force-fed thousands of “Bombshell” headlines to millions of Americans, without ever providing a lick of evidence. The absence of evidence supporting their outrageous lies coupled with the results of Mueller’s investigation and Barr’s conclusions establishes collusion – not between Russia and the Trump family to influence the 2016 presidential election, but amongst the Democrats and mass media to delegitimize the
Trump presidency.

The Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said, “We saw cold, hard evidence of the Trump campaign, and indeed the Trump family, eagerly intending to collude with Russia.” Pelosi has never presented any evidence to support this claim or any of the many other suspect claims the speaker has made.

The Chairman of House Intelligence Committee Adam Schiff said, “I have evidence of collusion with Russia and kompromat. It’s all in plain sight.” Schiff regularly repeated this claim to the public yet never provided any evidence. He appeared on CNN, MSNBC, NBC, and ABC over 150 times and was never called out for repeating these lies over and over again.

Congressman Eric Swalwell on MSNBC said, “Donald Trump is a Russian agent; we have evidence Trump and his family colluded with Russia.” Swalwell has parroted this and many other claims since 2016. Evidence provided: none.

Congresswoman Maxine Waters stated, “Trump and his buddies are scumbags who are all Putin’s puppets; we will Impeach 45.” Waters has been shrieking “Impeach 45” since election day in 2016. Water’s reason: she hates Trump and the entire Grand Old Party “GOP.”


...more at the link...
Russian collusion was no more than “conspiracy porn” created by Clinton and Obama

...can you believe this site does not allow you to use the word PORN in a thread title...LOL!

Whelp --- I agree with you on one (1) thing. Thread titles shouldn't be censoring the word "porn" or for that matter the word (anything).

As far as "not a shred of evidence" --- the powers of self-delusion continue to amaze:



I mean, this is not only public but how do you find a way to "forget" it?

There's also "would means wouldn't" as soon as Pootin is out of earshot, and all the knob-polishing of the Russkie head honcho including denying he even invaded Ukraine, etc. I mean he pandered to Pootin more than the people of Iowa.

Down the memory hole, huh comrade?

Then there was this, reported in 2016:

>> A computer scientist tracking malware and going by the name “Tea Leaves” claims to have discovered a pattern of conversation that appears to tie a server registered to the Donald Trump organization to two Russian servers registered to "Alfa Bank."

According to a new report from Slate, computer scientists began looking into GOP presidential nominee’s servers in the wake of the hack into the Democratic National Committee (DNC) that U.S. intelligence has blamed on Russian actors.

.... Tea Leaves discovered a bank in Moscow that continually contacted a server registered to the Trump Organization. Further research of the pattern of conversations revealed they would occur during office hours in both New York and Moscow, Slate reported. <<​

From the referenced Slate article:

>> The researchers quickly dismissed their initial fear that the logs represented a malware attack. The communication wasn’t the work of bots. The irregular pattern of server lookups actually resembled the pattern of human conversation—conversations that began during office hours in New York and continued during office hours in Moscow. It dawned on the researchers that this wasn’t an attack, but a sustained relationship between a server registered to the Trump Organization and two servers registered to an entity called Alfa Bank.

The researchers had initially stumbled in their diagnosis because of the odd configuration of Trump’s server. “I’ve never seen a server set up like that,” says Christopher Davis, who runs the cybersecurity firm HYAS InfoSec Inc. and won a FBI Director Award for Excellence for his work tracking down the authors of one of the world’s nastiest botnet attacks. “It looked weird, and it didn’t pass the sniff test.” The server was first registered to Trump’s business in 2009 and was set up to run consumer marketing campaigns. It had a history of sending mass emails on behalf of Trump-branded properties and products. Researchers were ultimately convinced that the server indeed belonged to Trump. (Click here to see the server’s registration record.) But now this capacious server handled a strangely small load of traffic, such a small load that it would be hard for a company to justify the expense and trouble it would take to maintain it. “I get more mail in a day than the server handled,” Davis says.

That wasn’t the only oddity. When the researchers pinged the server, they received error messages. They concluded that the server was set to accept only incoming communication from a very small handful of IP addresses.

... Eighty-seven percent of the DNS lookups involved the two Alfa Bank servers. “It’s pretty clear that it’s not an open mail server,” Camp told me. “These organizations are communicating in a way designed to block other people out.”

Earlier this month, the group of computer scientists passed the logs to Paul Vixie. In the world of DNS experts, there’s no higher authority. Vixie wrote central strands of the DNS code that makes the internet work. After studying the logs, he concluded, “The parties were communicating in a secretive fashion. The operative word is secretive. This is more akin to what criminal syndicates do if they are putting together a project.” Put differently, the logs suggested that Trump and Alfa had configured something like a digital hotline connecting the two entities, shutting out the rest of the world, and designed to obscure its own existence. Over the summer, the scientists observed the communications trail from a distance. <<

--- All that sound like "not a shred of evidence" to you?

I dunno man, y'all Rumpbots are reminding us of Jim Marshall.

CONSPIRACY THEORIST!!!!
 
The left elite must laugh their asses off at how easy it is to dupe many Americans.

Here is a good summary of the whole Russia Hoax. This should be required reading for all Americans. These kinds of leftist hoaxes likely will continue, since they are very effective with many Americans.


Russian collusion was no more than “conspiracy porn” created by Clinton and Obama
After 675 days, 25 million dollars, 2,800 subpoenas, over 500 witnesses, and more than 500 search warrants, all of which took up the time of 20 prosecutors and nearly 50 FBI agents, Special Counsel Robert Mueller submitted the results of his “witch hunt” to the Attorney General of the United States of America, Robert Barr.

Barr, in turn, submitted a four-page overview highlighting the following conclusions: There are no further indictments of anyone and there was no collusion with Russia by any American. Barr and Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, whom Mueller reported to, determined that there was no obstruction by President Trump.

But, for the past three years, elite Democratic Party partisans, along with their media partners, force-fed thousands of “Bombshell” headlines to millions of Americans, without ever providing a lick of evidence. The absence of evidence supporting their outrageous lies coupled with the results of Mueller’s investigation and Barr’s conclusions establishes collusion – not between Russia and the Trump family to influence the 2016 presidential election, but amongst the Democrats and mass media to delegitimize the
Trump presidency.

The Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said, “We saw cold, hard evidence of the Trump campaign, and indeed the Trump family, eagerly intending to collude with Russia.” Pelosi has never presented any evidence to support this claim or any of the many other suspect claims the speaker has made.

The Chairman of House Intelligence Committee Adam Schiff said, “I have evidence of collusion with Russia and kompromat. It’s all in plain sight.” Schiff regularly repeated this claim to the public yet never provided any evidence. He appeared on CNN, MSNBC, NBC, and ABC over 150 times and was never called out for repeating these lies over and over again.

Congressman Eric Swalwell on MSNBC said, “Donald Trump is a Russian agent; we have evidence Trump and his family colluded with Russia.” Swalwell has parroted this and many other claims since 2016. Evidence provided: none.

Congresswoman Maxine Waters stated, “Trump and his buddies are scumbags who are all Putin’s puppets; we will Impeach 45.” Waters has been shrieking “Impeach 45” since election day in 2016. Water’s reason: she hates Trump and the entire Grand Old Party “GOP.”


...more at the link...
Russian collusion was no more than “conspiracy porn” created by Clinton and Obama

...can you believe this site does not allow you to use the word PORN in a thread title...LOL!

Whelp --- I agree with you on one (1) thing. Thread titles shouldn't be censoring the word "porn" or for that matter the word (anything).

As far as "not a shred of evidence" --- the powers of self-delusion continue to amaze:



I mean, this is not only public but how do you find a way to "forget" it?

There's also "would means wouldn't" as soon as Pootin is out of earshot, and all the knob-polishing of the Russkie head honcho including denying he even invaded Ukraine, etc. I mean he pandered to Pootin more than the people of Iowa.

Down the memory hole, huh comrade?

Then there was this, reported in 2016:

>> A computer scientist tracking malware and going by the name “Tea Leaves” claims to have discovered a pattern of conversation that appears to tie a server registered to the Donald Trump organization to two Russian servers registered to "Alfa Bank."

According to a new report from Slate, computer scientists began looking into GOP presidential nominee’s servers in the wake of the hack into the Democratic National Committee (DNC) that U.S. intelligence has blamed on Russian actors.

.... Tea Leaves discovered a bank in Moscow that continually contacted a server registered to the Trump Organization. Further research of the pattern of conversations revealed they would occur during office hours in both New York and Moscow, Slate reported. <<​

From the referenced Slate article:

>> The researchers quickly dismissed their initial fear that the logs represented a malware attack. The communication wasn’t the work of bots. The irregular pattern of server lookups actually resembled the pattern of human conversation—conversations that began during office hours in New York and continued during office hours in Moscow. It dawned on the researchers that this wasn’t an attack, but a sustained relationship between a server registered to the Trump Organization and two servers registered to an entity called Alfa Bank.

The researchers had initially stumbled in their diagnosis because of the odd configuration of Trump’s server. “I’ve never seen a server set up like that,” says Christopher Davis, who runs the cybersecurity firm HYAS InfoSec Inc. and won a FBI Director Award for Excellence for his work tracking down the authors of one of the world’s nastiest botnet attacks. “It looked weird, and it didn’t pass the sniff test.” The server was first registered to Trump’s business in 2009 and was set up to run consumer marketing campaigns. It had a history of sending mass emails on behalf of Trump-branded properties and products. Researchers were ultimately convinced that the server indeed belonged to Trump. (Click here to see the server’s registration record.) But now this capacious server handled a strangely small load of traffic, such a small load that it would be hard for a company to justify the expense and trouble it would take to maintain it. “I get more mail in a day than the server handled,” Davis says.

That wasn’t the only oddity. When the researchers pinged the server, they received error messages. They concluded that the server was set to accept only incoming communication from a very small handful of IP addresses.

... Eighty-seven percent of the DNS lookups involved the two Alfa Bank servers. “It’s pretty clear that it’s not an open mail server,” Camp told me. “These organizations are communicating in a way designed to block other people out.”

Earlier this month, the group of computer scientists passed the logs to Paul Vixie. In the world of DNS experts, there’s no higher authority. Vixie wrote central strands of the DNS code that makes the internet work. After studying the logs, he concluded, “The parties were communicating in a secretive fashion. The operative word is secretive. This is more akin to what criminal syndicates do if they are putting together a project.” Put differently, the logs suggested that Trump and Alfa had configured something like a digital hotline connecting the two entities, shutting out the rest of the world, and designed to obscure its own existence. Over the summer, the scientists observed the communications trail from a distance. <<

--- All that sound like "not a shred of evidence" to you?

I dunno man, y'all Rumpbots are reminding us of Jim Marshall.

CONSPIRACY THEORIST!!!!


I see myself more like the old Gilda Radner character:

"I clean up, OK?"
 
A particularly funny moment on CNN when someone mentioned that the Clinton staff literally smashed their cellphones with hammers in the White House when the Clinton investigation began...



I want everyone seeing this video, take 2 frigging seconds and imagine if Trumps staff did this. Watch the CNN host's reaction to confirming this was true.
How different would her reaction be if this was Trumps admin?

And THAT is all you need to know about the media.


You don't "know" something as a product of a speculation fallacy.

Dumbdown version:
"If X had done this it would have been treated differently" is never valid argument.
 
The left elite must laugh their asses off at how easy it is to dupe many Americans.

Here is a good summary of the whole Russia Hoax. This should be required reading for all Americans. These kinds of leftist hoaxes likely will continue, since they are very effective with many Americans.


Russian collusion was no more than “conspiracy porn” created by Clinton and Obama
After 675 days, 25 million dollars, 2,800 subpoenas, over 500 witnesses, and more than 500 search warrants, all of which took up the time of 20 prosecutors and nearly 50 FBI agents, Special Counsel Robert Mueller submitted the results of his “witch hunt” to the Attorney General of the United States of America, Robert Barr.

Barr, in turn, submitted a four-page overview highlighting the following conclusions: There are no further indictments of anyone and there was no collusion with Russia by any American. Barr and Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, whom Mueller reported to, determined that there was no obstruction by President Trump.

But, for the past three years, elite Democratic Party partisans, along with their media partners, force-fed thousands of “Bombshell” headlines to millions of Americans, without ever providing a lick of evidence. The absence of evidence supporting their outrageous lies coupled with the results of Mueller’s investigation and Barr’s conclusions establishes collusion – not between Russia and the Trump family to influence the 2016 presidential election, but amongst the Democrats and mass media to delegitimize the
Trump presidency.

The Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said, “We saw cold, hard evidence of the Trump campaign, and indeed the Trump family, eagerly intending to collude with Russia.” Pelosi has never presented any evidence to support this claim or any of the many other suspect claims the speaker has made.

The Chairman of House Intelligence Committee Adam Schiff said, “I have evidence of collusion with Russia and kompromat. It’s all in plain sight.” Schiff regularly repeated this claim to the public yet never provided any evidence. He appeared on CNN, MSNBC, NBC, and ABC over 150 times and was never called out for repeating these lies over and over again.

Congressman Eric Swalwell on MSNBC said, “Donald Trump is a Russian agent; we have evidence Trump and his family colluded with Russia.” Swalwell has parroted this and many other claims since 2016. Evidence provided: none.

Congresswoman Maxine Waters stated, “Trump and his buddies are scumbags who are all Putin’s puppets; we will Impeach 45.” Waters has been shrieking “Impeach 45” since election day in 2016. Water’s reason: she hates Trump and the entire Grand Old Party “GOP.”


...more at the link...
Russian collusion was no more than “conspiracy porn” created by Clinton and Obama

...can you believe this site does not allow you to use the word PORN in a thread title...LOL!

Whelp --- I agree with you on one (1) thing. Thread titles shouldn't be censoring the word "porn" or for that matter the word (anything).

As far as "not a shred of evidence" --- the powers of self-delusion continue to amaze:



I mean, this is not only public but how do you find a way to "forget" it?

There's also "would means wouldn't" as soon as Pootin is out of earshot, and all the knob-polishing of the Russkie head honcho including denying he even invaded Ukraine, etc. I mean he pandered to Pootin more than the people of Iowa.

Down the memory hole, huh comrade?

Then there was this, reported in 2016:

>> A computer scientist tracking malware and going by the name “Tea Leaves” claims to have discovered a pattern of conversation that appears to tie a server registered to the Donald Trump organization to two Russian servers registered to "Alfa Bank."

According to a new report from Slate, computer scientists began looking into GOP presidential nominee’s servers in the wake of the hack into the Democratic National Committee (DNC) that U.S. intelligence has blamed on Russian actors.

.... Tea Leaves discovered a bank in Moscow that continually contacted a server registered to the Trump Organization. Further research of the pattern of conversations revealed they would occur during office hours in both New York and Moscow, Slate reported. <<​

From the referenced Slate article:

>> The researchers quickly dismissed their initial fear that the logs represented a malware attack. The communication wasn’t the work of bots. The irregular pattern of server lookups actually resembled the pattern of human conversation—conversations that began during office hours in New York and continued during office hours in Moscow. It dawned on the researchers that this wasn’t an attack, but a sustained relationship between a server registered to the Trump Organization and two servers registered to an entity called Alfa Bank.

The researchers had initially stumbled in their diagnosis because of the odd configuration of Trump’s server. “I’ve never seen a server set up like that,” says Christopher Davis, who runs the cybersecurity firm HYAS InfoSec Inc. and won a FBI Director Award for Excellence for his work tracking down the authors of one of the world’s nastiest botnet attacks. “It looked weird, and it didn’t pass the sniff test.” The server was first registered to Trump’s business in 2009 and was set up to run consumer marketing campaigns. It had a history of sending mass emails on behalf of Trump-branded properties and products. Researchers were ultimately convinced that the server indeed belonged to Trump. (Click here to see the server’s registration record.) But now this capacious server handled a strangely small load of traffic, such a small load that it would be hard for a company to justify the expense and trouble it would take to maintain it. “I get more mail in a day than the server handled,” Davis says.

That wasn’t the only oddity. When the researchers pinged the server, they received error messages. They concluded that the server was set to accept only incoming communication from a very small handful of IP addresses.

... Eighty-seven percent of the DNS lookups involved the two Alfa Bank servers. “It’s pretty clear that it’s not an open mail server,” Camp told me. “These organizations are communicating in a way designed to block other people out.”

Earlier this month, the group of computer scientists passed the logs to Paul Vixie. In the world of DNS experts, there’s no higher authority. Vixie wrote central strands of the DNS code that makes the internet work. After studying the logs, he concluded, “The parties were communicating in a secretive fashion. The operative word is secretive. This is more akin to what criminal syndicates do if they are putting together a project.” Put differently, the logs suggested that Trump and Alfa had configured something like a digital hotline connecting the two entities, shutting out the rest of the world, and designed to obscure its own existence. Over the summer, the scientists observed the communications trail from a distance. <<

--- All that sound like "not a shred of evidence" to you?

I dunno man, y'all Rumpbots are reminding us of Jim Marshall.

it is amazing the stupid you are here. you can't even summarize what it is you're even trying to say.
 
A particularly funny moment on CNN when someone mentioned that the Clinton staff literally smashed their cellphones with hammers in the White House when the Clinton investigation began...



I want everyone seeing this video, take 2 frigging seconds and imagine if Trumps staff did this. Watch the CNN host's reaction to confirming this was true.
How different would her reaction be if this was Trumps admin?

And THAT is all you need to know about the media.


You don't "know" something as a product of a speculation fallacy.

Dumbdown version:
"If X had done this it would have been treated differently" is never valid argument.

I know a hoax when I see one and I know obstruction when I hear one. if the phones were indeed demolished, which I'm pretty sure we know. that is obstruction. they were under subpoena order. Whether or not someone spoke to someone, who spoke to someone, who spoke to someone, well the only someone was Christopher Steele. and that was to demolosers. not even a republican or trump campaigner. smell of hoax right there bubba.
 
The left elite must laugh their asses off at how easy it is to dupe many Americans.

Here is a good summary of the whole Russia Hoax. This should be required reading for all Americans. These kinds of leftist hoaxes likely will continue, since they are very effective with many Americans.


Russian collusion was no more than “conspiracy porn” created by Clinton and Obama
After 675 days, 25 million dollars, 2,800 subpoenas, over 500 witnesses, and more than 500 search warrants, all of which took up the time of 20 prosecutors and nearly 50 FBI agents, Special Counsel Robert Mueller submitted the results of his “witch hunt” to the Attorney General of the United States of America, Robert Barr.

Barr, in turn, submitted a four-page overview highlighting the following conclusions: There are no further indictments of anyone and there was no collusion with Russia by any American. Barr and Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, whom Mueller reported to, determined that there was no obstruction by President Trump.

But, for the past three years, elite Democratic Party partisans, along with their media partners, force-fed thousands of “Bombshell” headlines to millions of Americans, without ever providing a lick of evidence. The absence of evidence supporting their outrageous lies coupled with the results of Mueller’s investigation and Barr’s conclusions establishes collusion – not between Russia and the Trump family to influence the 2016 presidential election, but amongst the Democrats and mass media to delegitimize the
Trump presidency.

The Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said, “We saw cold, hard evidence of the Trump campaign, and indeed the Trump family, eagerly intending to collude with Russia.” Pelosi has never presented any evidence to support this claim or any of the many other suspect claims the speaker has made.

The Chairman of House Intelligence Committee Adam Schiff said, “I have evidence of collusion with Russia and kompromat. It’s all in plain sight.” Schiff regularly repeated this claim to the public yet never provided any evidence. He appeared on CNN, MSNBC, NBC, and ABC over 150 times and was never called out for repeating these lies over and over again.

Congressman Eric Swalwell on MSNBC said, “Donald Trump is a Russian agent; we have evidence Trump and his family colluded with Russia.” Swalwell has parroted this and many other claims since 2016. Evidence provided: none.

Congresswoman Maxine Waters stated, “Trump and his buddies are scumbags who are all Putin’s puppets; we will Impeach 45.” Waters has been shrieking “Impeach 45” since election day in 2016. Water’s reason: she hates Trump and the entire Grand Old Party “GOP.”


...more at the link...
Russian collusion was no more than “conspiracy porn” created by Clinton and Obama

...can you believe this site does not allow you to use the word PORN in a thread title...LOL!
likely spam prevention vs. "thought" control :)
 
A particularly funny moment on CNN when someone mentioned that the Clinton staff literally smashed their cellphones with hammers in the White House when the Clinton investigation began...



I want everyone seeing this video, take 2 frigging seconds and imagine if Trumps staff did this. Watch the CNN host's reaction to confirming this was true.
How different would her reaction be if this was Trumps admin?

And THAT is all you need to know about the media.


You don't "know" something as a product of a speculation fallacy.

Dumbdown version:
"If X had done this it would have been treated differently" is never valid argument.


It absolutely is.
You are simply trying to use an argument to avoid admitting the correct speculation.
Her reaction to finding out that Hillary's minions literally took hammers and smashed phones/iPads upon finding out they may be confiscated for an investigation is shocking. And nothing less.
She carefully showed no emotion.
It is a VERY valid argument to take her treatment of the Russian collusion story, her treatment of the entire Trump presidency and make a valid point that if this was Trumps minions smashing evidence - her head would have exploded.
If you want to hide from that, fine.
 
Yes attack the source, but ignore the substance.
The article asks for evidence, but the release must be thru proper channels and procedures. Case in point is this false accusation.
The evidence consists of emails from the Russians through their intermediary offering dirt on Hillary Clinton as part of what is described in writing as the Russian government effort to help elect Donald Trump. Russians offered dirt on Hillary, then Trump Jr. accepts that offer.
In addition, Trump's campaign manager providing internal polling data to Russians.
 
A particularly funny moment on CNN when someone mentioned that the Clinton staff literally smashed their cellphones with hammers in the White House when the Clinton investigation began...



I want everyone seeing this video, take 2 frigging seconds and imagine if Trumps staff did this. Watch the CNN host's reaction to confirming this was true.
How different would her reaction be if this was Trumps admin?

And THAT is all you need to know about the media.


You don't "know" something as a product of a speculation fallacy.

Dumbdown version:
"If X had done this it would have been treated differently" is never valid argument.


It absolutely is.
You are simply trying to use an argument to avoid admitting the correct speculation.
Her reaction to finding out that Hillary's minions literally took hammers and smashed phones/iPads upon finding out they may be confiscated for an investigation is shocking. And nothing less.
She carefully showed no emotion.
It is a VERY valid argument to take her treatment of the Russian collusion story, her treatment of the entire Trump presidency and make a valid point that if this was Trumps minions smashing evidence - her head would have exploded.
If you want to hide from that, fine.


There is no such thing as "correct speculation". That's simply another name for "internal confirmation bias". Nor can you read people's minds. And why would a talking head on a news channel be "showing emotion" anyway?

The fact is you're extrapolating 'facts' that are not in evidence, and you can't do that, because they're not 'facts'. Those are called "expectations". And consider that your only defense of said fallacy was to simply restate it.

You can expect (speculate) anything you like based on whatever. But don't pretend they're "facts". They ain't. Facts are documentable and quantifiable.
 
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A particularly funny moment on CNN when someone mentioned that the Clinton staff literally smashed their cellphones with hammers in the White House when the Clinton investigation began...



I want everyone seeing this video, take 2 frigging seconds and imagine if Trumps staff did this. Watch the CNN host's reaction to confirming this was true.
How different would her reaction be if this was Trumps admin?

And THAT is all you need to know about the media.


You don't "know" something as a product of a speculation fallacy.

Dumbdown version:
"If X had done this it would have been treated differently" is never valid argument.


It absolutely is.
You are simply trying to use an argument to avoid admitting the correct speculation.
Her reaction to finding out that Hillary's minions literally took hammers and smashed phones/iPads upon finding out they may be confiscated for an investigation is shocking. And nothing less.
She carefully showed no emotion.
It is a VERY valid argument to take her treatment of the Russian collusion story, her treatment of the entire Trump presidency and make a valid point that if this was Trumps minions smashing evidence - her head would have exploded.
If you want to hide from that, fine.


There is no such thing as "correct speculation". That's simply another name for "internal confirmation bias". Nor can you read people's minds. And why would a talking head on a news channel be "showing emotion" anyway?

The fact is you're extrapolating 'facts' that are not in evidence, and you can't do that, because they're not 'facts'. Those are called "expectations". And consider that your only defense of said fallacy was to simply restate it.

You can expect (speculate) anything you like based on whatever. But don't pretend they're "facts". They ain't. Facts are documentable and quantifiable.


Blah blah blah... you can sit back in your faculty chair and say all you want.
Anyone with an IQ over 70 knows damn well her reaction would have been very, very different.

P.S. - you have a spot on your tweed jacket.
 
Yes attack the source, but ignore the substance.
The article asks for evidence, but the release must be thru proper channels and procedures. Case in point is this false accusation.
The evidence consists of emails from the Russians through their intermediary offering dirt on Hillary Clinton as part of what is described in writing as the Russian government effort to help elect Donald Trump. Russians offered dirt on Hillary, then Trump Jr. accepts that offer.
In addition, Trump's campaign manager providing internal polling data to Russians.
There is a lot to criticize Trump for, like blowing up the deficit, attacking Syria based on Deep State lies, leaving the INF Treaty claiming the Russians cheated without offering proof, expanding NATO, expanding the War Department to absurd levels, trying to overthrow a democratically elected government of Venezuela, turning relations with Russia to shit....all terrible things...but what is the Left focused on?

A FUCKING HOAX...its dumb and its dangerous.

When will the Left stop being so pro-war?
 
A particularly funny moment on CNN when someone mentioned that the Clinton staff literally smashed their cellphones with hammers in the White House when the Clinton investigation began...



I want everyone seeing this video, take 2 frigging seconds and imagine if Trumps staff did this. Watch the CNN host's reaction to confirming this was true.
How different would her reaction be if this was Trumps admin?

And THAT is all you need to know about the media.


You don't "know" something as a product of a speculation fallacy.

Dumbdown version:
"If X had done this it would have been treated differently" is never valid argument.


It absolutely is.
You are simply trying to use an argument to avoid admitting the correct speculation.
Her reaction to finding out that Hillary's minions literally took hammers and smashed phones/iPads upon finding out they may be confiscated for an investigation is shocking. And nothing less.
She carefully showed no emotion.
It is a VERY valid argument to take her treatment of the Russian collusion story, her treatment of the entire Trump presidency and make a valid point that if this was Trumps minions smashing evidence - her head would have exploded.
If you want to hide from that, fine.


There is no such thing as "correct speculation". That's simply another name for "internal confirmation bias". Nor can you read people's minds. And why would a talking head on a news channel be "showing emotion" anyway?

The fact is you're extrapolating 'facts' that are not in evidence, and you can't do that, because they're not 'facts'. Those are called "expectations". And consider that your only defense of said fallacy was to simply restate it.

You can expect (speculate) anything you like based on whatever. But don't pretend they're "facts". They ain't. Facts are documentable and quantifiable.


Blah blah blah... you can sit back in your faculty chair and say all you want.
Anyone with an IQ over 70 knows damn well her reaction would have been very, very different.

P.S. - you have a spot on your tweed jacket.


And now you're on to two more fallacies, in order of appearance the "Everybody Knows..." (argumentum ad populum) and the ad hom. At least I guess you think it's ad hom ----- where noting that somebody has a basic fundamental education is somehow some kind of "insult". What the fuck kind of planet do you live on where that's the case? What the fuck is the VIRTUE in being ignorant?

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge'." --- Isaac Asimov
 
A particularly funny moment on CNN when someone mentioned that the Clinton staff literally smashed their cellphones with hammers in the White House when the Clinton investigation began...



I want everyone seeing this video, take 2 frigging seconds and imagine if Trumps staff did this. Watch the CNN host's reaction to confirming this was true.
How different would her reaction be if this was Trumps admin?

And THAT is all you need to know about the media.


You don't "know" something as a product of a speculation fallacy.

Dumbdown version:
"If X had done this it would have been treated differently" is never valid argument.


It absolutely is.
You are simply trying to use an argument to avoid admitting the correct speculation.
Her reaction to finding out that Hillary's minions literally took hammers and smashed phones/iPads upon finding out they may be confiscated for an investigation is shocking. And nothing less.
She carefully showed no emotion.
It is a VERY valid argument to take her treatment of the Russian collusion story, her treatment of the entire Trump presidency and make a valid point that if this was Trumps minions smashing evidence - her head would have exploded.
If you want to hide from that, fine.


There is no such thing as "correct speculation". That's simply another name for "internal confirmation bias". Nor can you read people's minds. And why would a talking head on a news channel be "showing emotion" anyway?

The fact is you're extrapolating 'facts' that are not in evidence, and you can't do that, because they're not 'facts'. Those are called "expectations". And consider that your only defense of said fallacy was to simply restate it.

You can expect (speculate) anything you like based on whatever. But don't pretend they're "facts". They ain't. Facts are documentable and quantifiable.


Blah blah blah... you can sit back in your faculty chair and say all you want.
Anyone with an IQ over 70 knows damn well her reaction would have been very, very different.

P.S. - you have a spot on your tweed jacket.


And now you're on to two more fallacies, in order of appearance the "Everybody Knows..." (argumentum ad populum) and the ad hom. At least I guess you think it's ad hom ----- where noting that somebody has a basic fundamental education is somehow some kind of "insult". What the fuck kind of planet do you live on where that's the case? What the fuck is the VIRTUE in being ignorant?

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge'." --- Isaac Asimov


POGO.....

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