Conservative of the Year Named

[RetiredGySgt]

i've Never Seen Those Threads So I Wasn't Ignoring Anything....


Some Characteristics Of A Conservative Politically Would Be A

1) A Belief That Government Can Not Answer Ever Question Nor Provide For Every Need And Should Be Only As Big As Absolutely Needed. except When It Comes To Personal Choices, Such As Abortion And Gay Marriage, Right?

2) People Are Responsible For Their Actions And Their Welfare. The Government Is Not Responsible To Provide A Safety Net,that Is The Job Of The Citizenry Through Charity. except When It Comes To Corporations Such As Wall Street And Enron, Right?

3) The Government Should Not Tax And Spend Unless It Has A Defined And Legal Purpose For Doing So. Taxes Belong To The People Not The Government. Collecting Them And Using Them Is A Duty That Must Be Shown To Be Required. except When It Comes To Wars Without Merit, Right?

4) Less Regulation And Less Laws, Only Creating Laws And Regulations When Needed And Proven To Be Required. yes, Let's Fuck The Environment...why Regulate Water For The People To Drink? Fuck Em.... Yeah, Why Regulate Medicine? Let The People Take Any Experimental Drug They Want, Except Ru486...that One Kills Babies...let's Regulate That One... Forget Regulating Banks Too... Oh Wait... That Got Us Into This Current Mess....let's Regulate Them Again.....

5) Obeying And Following The Documents And Laws That Grant Power To The Government, Not Inventing New Powers Without Going To The People For Authority Through The Amendment Process. except When It's In The Name Of National Security, Right?


Funny Thing Though... Most People View Conservatives As People Who Want No Government Except In The Name Of The Unborn And The Anti-gay Supporters....

Does It Bother You That The Face Of Conservatives Is Like That?

Retard Alert, Retard Alert.

 

[Ravi]

Retard Alert, Retard Alert.

I've told you before...no need to alert us, we can see your posts.

Silence made some valid points. Most people that pretend to be conservative are anything but.

 

[AllieBaba]

They pretend to distance themselves from Bush...but look who has been chosen Conservative of the Year...the one person out there who is exactly like Bush in every department except physical equipment.

Now I know you're high.
Palin has absolutely nothing in common with Bush. Zero. Nada.

 

[Silence]

Retard Alert, Retard Alert.

when yuo can't rebutt you call people retards...

 

[BlackAsCoal]

No, she insists Bush is a conservative as well. Idiots.

Idiots on your side of the fence proclaimed Clinton was a liberal .. now they claim Obama is a liberal and a "socialist"

You certanly don't have to look too far for an idiot.

 

[dewclaw]

Now I know you're high.
Palin has absolutely nothing in common with Bush. Zero. Nada.

Are you blind and deaf? What about the dumb-ass redneck swagger they both have and use to "connect" with the people?

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Seriously? I've no idea. I can't think of a single prominent Republican that is an actual conservative.

It's about as hard as finding a democrat who is actually a liberal.

Come to think of it, most democrats thought Obama was a progressive.

Surprise, surprise

 

[AllieBaba]

I've never seen those threads so I wasn't ignoring anything....


Some characteristics of a Conservative politically would be a

1) a belief that Government can not answer ever question nor provide for every need and should be only as big as absolutely needed. except when it comes to personal choices, such as abortion and gay marriage, right?

2) People are responsible for their actions and their welfare. The Government is not responsible to provide a safety net,that is the job of the Citizenry through charity. except when it comes to corporations such as Wall Street and enron, right?

3) The Government should not tax and spend unless it has a defined and legal purpose for doing so. Taxes belong to the people not the Government. Collecting them and using them is a duty that must be shown to be required. except when it comes to wars without merit, right?

4) Less regulation and less laws, only creating laws and regulations when needed and proven to be required. yes, let's fuck the environment...why regulate water for the people to drink? fuck em.... yeah, why regulate medicine? let the people take any experimental drug they want, except RU486...that one kills babies...let's regulate that one... forget regulating banks too... oh wait... that got us into this current mess....let's regulate them again.....

5) Obeying and following the Documents and laws that grant power to the Government, not inventing new powers without going to the people for authority through the Amendment process. except when it's in the name of national security, right?


funny thing though... most people view conservatives as people who want no government except in the name of the unborn and the anti-gay supporters....

does it bother you that the face of conservatives is like that?

No, because it's not. It's just what people who come across as mentally ill insist is the focus of conservatism. Hence Ravi's inability to see conservatism for what it really is. She can't separate the fantasy from the fact, and when the two don't jibe, she insists that the picture that doesn't match her fantasy isn't true conservatism.

If you'll recall, it was the LIBERALS who interjected the government into the realm of sex and the unborn. It was LIBERALS who insisted the government should get involved in that realm. And it is LIBERALS who insist that laws must exist to force others to accept their world view.

There is no conservative on the face of the earth who has been campaigning to eliminate homosexuals, to eliminate homosexuality, or to prevent homosexuals from cohabitating. It is the LIBERALS who insist that schools should be teaching about homosexuality, who are insisting that we alter the definition of words which define the basis of the family, and it is the liberals who think that anyone who doesn't fall all over themselves to fawn over homosexuals should be thrown in jail.

Likewise, it is the liberals who are attempting to change the language, via the law, so that "personal choice" includes murder.

You're damn right we don't believe personal choice should enable a population to kill their babies, or to essentially nullify traditional marriage. If you don't want to be traditional, go for it. Find a church to marry you and get your will in order. But FUCK YOU if you think you can force homosexuality and murder down our throats by MAKING IT LEGAL, then accusing us of doing exactly what you are doing yourselves.

Sorry, your personal choice ends when it 1. is murder, and 2. consists of forcing me to teach my children that a homosexual lifestyle is the same as a traditional one.

That's what we call "thought police" and it isn't the conservatives who are doing it.

 

[WillowTree]

?
How can she not be a conservative? You are aware of what she did with the finances of Alaska, right?

Ravi, you don't even know what a conservative is. Everytime someone comes along who has sensible views who calls themselves a conservative, you proclaim that that person isn't a conservative at all.

It's ludicrous.

that's their brand new flavor of kool aid at KOS, they want to define and decide who is and isn't a conservative. Being liberal is such a shitty thing to be now they want to be conservatives. donkeypoo!

 

[BlackAsCoal]

They pretend to distance themselves from Bush...but look who has been chosen Conservative of the Year...the one person out there who is exactly like Bush in every department except physical equipment.

Yup, they missed the boat.

They should have chosen Barack Obama as Conservative of the Decade.

That would have been my choice.

 

[AllieBaba]

Are you blind and deaf? What about the dumb-ass redneck swagger they both have and use to "connect" with the people?

Oh, you mean the fact that neither is from CHicago or New York. All the rest of the world are dumb-ass rednecks.

I forgot. The great lack of bigotry that libs pride themselves on.

 

[WillowTree]

obama's hired a private 767 to fly his little ass to Hawaii.. how's that for environmental concerns??? and rented a house that costs 60 grand a week, where the fuck does he get all his money? Do senators make that much money?

 

[Ravi]

Yup, they missed the boat.

They should have chosen Barack Obama as Conservative of the Decade.

heh...he actually might turn out to be more of a conservative than Palin, that's for sure.

 

[dewclaw]

Should be Ron Paul

 

[sealybobo]

Now I know you're high.
Palin has absolutely nothing in common with Bush. Zero. Nada.

The GOP knew they couldn't win with another right wing social conservative like Bush, so they picked McCain.

So to appease the radical far right in your party, they picked a radical christian like Palin. Notice how happy they were? Of course! McCain is 72 years old!!!

She's Anti choice, anti evolution, anti sex ed, a bible thumper, sensorship, 10 commandments in court, pledge of alligance, Armageddon type a gal.

Was she more like Bush than Rudy or McCain or Romney? Yes.

And that was unacceptable to the American people Allie. No one wants a radical bible thumper running the country ever again. McCain would be 80 if he finished 2 terms and she'd be one heart beat away from being President?

Shows how little respect you have for the Presidency.

 

[sealybobo]

Yup, they missed the boat.

They should have chosen Barack Obama as Conservative of the Decade.

That would have been my choice.

Are you dogging him out because he's moving too far to the right?

 

[DiamondDave]

...

1) except when it comes to personal choices, such as abortion and gay marriage, right? Except that is about the protection of an innocent life and the rights of a child. And lest we not forget that it is aboyt redefining what a marriage is, which is not the job of the government. If you want to make the argument about equal rights for 'civil unions', most conservatives are up for that discussion

2) except when it comes to corporations such as Wall Street and enron, right? Hmmm.. did not see conservatives on here calling for their bailout... but nice try

3) except when it comes to wars without merit, right? Try reading the resolutions and understanding what is in store for violating the terms of a cease-fire agreement

4) yes, let's fuck the environment...why regulate water for the people to drink? fuck em.... yeah, why regulate medicine? let the people take any experimental drug they want, except RU486...that one kills babies...let's regulate that one... forget regulating banks too... oh wait... that got us into this current mess....let's regulate them again..... You conveniently forgot where he said "when needed and proven to be required"... nobody is arguing against improving pollution standards etc.... just not to the level of crippling the way of life we have... allowing the slow improvement is not frowned upon.. Don't remember anyone arguing against the basic regulation for public safety on drug testing... and again, nobody argued against the basic regulation of banks or banking. But remember the over regulation of forcing them to lend to people who would not normally qualify, was not the fault of conservatives..

5) except when it's in the name of national security, right? Which war was it where we did not intercept enemy communications without warrant?

 

[sealybobo]

obama's hired a private 767 to fly his little ass to Hawaii.. how's that for environmental concerns??? and rented a house that costs 60 grand a week, where the fuck does he get all his money? Do senators make that much money?

Read his book so he can go on another vacation.

Then maybe you won't ask so many dumb questions. LOL.. JK.

The answer is, "he wrote a book".

Plus all those donations.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

heh...he actually might turn out to be more of a conservative than Palin, that's for sure.

He already is ...

... and Palin didn't vote for the Bridge to Nowhere .. Obama did.

Alaskans get checks from the state for their oil.

hmmm ..

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Should be Ron Paul

Ron Paul ???

Wow .. I mean, I admit Americans are dumb .. but not THAT dumb.