Cons want a divorce from the United States

[bedowin62]

The United States has always been a marriage between libs and cons, that's the "united" in United States. But a marriage only works if there is compromise. If one can't except the other for who they are, it won't work. You can't try to force someone to be the way you want them to be.

The best times in America has been when both sides worked together. The worst times was when the Civil war happened because neither side would compromise. Looks like this country is going back to that same old stupidity.

When a family goes through a divorce the children suffer, and the economy of the family diminishes. As a result of the republicans wanting to secede from the U.S., our country is no longer the economic leader of the world, China is.

When a family goes through a divorce, the children usually become less educated. The U.S. is now one of the most uneducated industrialized countries in the world.

When a family goes through a divorce, the home falls into disrepair. America's roads, bridges and infrastructure is in shambles.

If this divorce happens, it will be very easy for the new super power to take us over. Look what's happening to Ukraine.

I'd like to acknowledge the cons confirmation of this thread. Thanks to all the Archie Bunkers and Frank Burns mental midgets.

good one doofus!!
maybe one day you'll be smart enough to ackowledge the beam in your own eye

 

[Harry Dresden]

The United States has always been a marriage between libs and cons, that's the "united" in United States. But a marriage only works if there is compromise. If one can't except the other for who they are, it won't work. You can't try to force someone to be the way you want them to be.

The best times in America has been when both sides worked together. The worst times was when the Civil war happened because neither side would compromise. Looks like this country is going back to that same old stupidity.

When a family goes through a divorce the children suffer, and the economy of the family diminishes. As a result of the republicans wanting to secede from the U.S., our country is no longer the economic leader of the world, China is.

When a family goes through a divorce, the children usually become less educated. The U.S. is now one of the most uneducated industrialized countries in the world.

When a family goes through a divorce, the home falls into disrepair. America's roads, bridges and infrastructure is in shambles.

If this divorce happens, it will be very easy for the new super power to take us over. Look what's happening to Ukraine.

I'd like to acknowledge the cons confirmation of this thread. Thanks to all the Archie Bunkers and Frank Burns mental midgets.

you sure as hell aint no mental giant asshole.....people with intelligence dont make fun of men with physical problems who need to take Levitra....like you have....

 

[The Rabbi]

MASH was a tv show too, but Frank Burns accurately portrayed the con mentality. His "reality" got him taken to the looney bin where he belonged.

Frank Burns was a fictitous character, you moron. So is your delusion about what "cons" are.

As I said, liberals can't seem to separate reality from fiction. They really can't. How else to imagine a guy with no experience, no demonstrated ability to run a lemonade stand, would make a great outstanding president? It's like soemthing in a movie. Of course.
Amityville Horror comes to mind.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Nah, we want a divorce from the USSR. We want the USA back.

 

[hangover]

Frank Burns was a fictitous character, you moron. So is your delusion about what "cons" are.

As I said, liberals can't seem to separate reality from fiction. They really can't. How else to imagine a guy with no experience, no demonstrated ability to run a lemonade stand, would make a great outstanding president? It's like soemthing in a movie. Of course.
Amityville Horror comes to mind.

Way to go fukwit. You misrepresented both quotes, mine and Clements. Exposing your stupidity is game, set and match. If you had a brain, you take it out and play with it.

 

[Katzndogz]

Nah, we want a divorce from the USSR. We want the USA back.

You aren't going to get it. The USA is as dead as Marley's ghost. The differences in this country go all the way to bedrock. That's where the split is occurring, right at the foundations. This doesn't get healed by nice words. The fundamental differences are how individuals should lead their daily lives. This isn't fixed by which party is in power.

 

[The Rabbi]

As I said, liberals can't seem to separate reality from fiction. They really can't. How else to imagine a guy with no experience, no demonstrated ability to run a lemonade stand, would make a great outstanding president? It's like soemthing in a movie. Of course.
Amityville Horror comes to mind.

Way to go fukwit. You misrepresented both quotes, mine and Clements. Exposing your stupidity is game, set and match. If you had a brain, you take it out and play with it.

No, I didnt. You can't separate fiction from reality. Maybe you really are drunk all the time.

 

[candycorn]

If the electorate would get involved in the day-to-day functions of the nation (not just showing up on 4/15 to pay taxes and a Tuesday in November to cast a ballot), we would have a much better nation. There are 536 federal posts that are voted on every 6 years; the effect that any of them have on your day to day life is almost zero.

Yet the outsized profile of these posts lends itself to the win at all costs mentality from both sides. Obama won 332-206 in 2012 and, I believe got 353 electoral votes in 2008. Prior to that George W Bush won two elections in 2000 and 2004. That anyone from either side can say that such didn't indicate that Obama and Bush didn't have any good ideals is bullshit. You don't win elections without getting some support from the middle of the political spectrum and both men did. If you can't see that they each had some ideas that resonated with the electorate...well, you're either ignorant or flat out stupid.

Again, however, the ideals promoted by each has very little day to day effect on your life in most cases. What matters more is the State races, local races, and the others that get no outsized headlines.

If you really care or are concerned about the nation, this is where you'd focus your energy. If you're here to simply pretend to be the man you hoped you'd turn out to be in real life continue to ignore the truths.

We get the government we deserve. Always have; always will.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Way to go fukwit. You misrepresented both quotes, mine and Clements. Exposing your stupidity is game, set and match. If you had a brain, you take it out and play with it.

You're an illiterate retard - which is why you're a democrat.

M*A*S*H was a book - you didn't know this - because you're an illiterate retard. It was one book in a long series. In one of the later books, Frank Burns runs for congress - as a Democrat, of course. He was Boston Blue Blood - you fucking illiterate retard.

 

[Uncensored2008]

No, I didnt. You can't separate fiction from reality. Maybe you really are drunk all the time.

He doesn't even get the fiction right, because he's an illiterate retard and never read a book in his life. He watched the TV show and concocted a fantasy in the 12 IQ points forming his mind.

The stupid fuckwad didn't even know this was written;

[ame]http://www.amazon.com/MASH-Goes-Maine-Richard-Hooker/dp/0671782541/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1399562735&sr=1-1&keywords=MASH+series[/ame]

 

[Erand7899]

The United States has always been a marriage between libs and cons, that's the "united" in United States. But a marriage only works if there is compromise. If one can't except the other for who they are, it won't work. You can't try to force someone to be the way you want them to be.

The best times in America has been when both sides worked together. The worst times was when the Civil war happened because neither side would compromise. Looks like this country is going back to that same old stupidity.

When a family goes through a divorce the children suffer, and the economy of the family diminishes. As a result of the republicans wanting to secede from the U.S., our country is no longer the economic leader of the world, China is.

When a family goes through a divorce, the children usually become less educated. The U.S. is now one of the most uneducated industrialized countries in the world.

When a family goes through a divorce, the home falls into disrepair. America's roads, bridges and infrastructure is in shambles.

If this divorce happens, it will be very easy for the new super power to take us over. Look what's happening to Ukraine.

The word "United" has nothing to do with Conservatives or Liberal/Socialists. It has to do with 50 soverign states "United" to work together. And no, Conservatives do not want a divorce from the United States, and never have. That is nothing more than a strawman that you have created to justify your ignorant rant, and displace blame for the ills of life in the United States today.

Conservatives, most but not all, desire a return to the original concept of the United States of America. Soverign states, each experimenting with concepts that make life better for the citizens of those states, and the other states adopting what works the best for their citizens. Conservatives, most but not all, desire to return the federal government to the limits established by the contract between the soverign states and the federal government.

Conservatives, most but not all, believe that government closest to the people is government most responsive to the people, and government that is more readily controlled by the people. This contrasts with the Liberal/Socialist belief that the federal government knows best, and is more trustworthy than state and local government.

We are seeing today, just how honest and trustworthy the federal government really is. It is out of control, and there is very little that we can do about it. Thank you, Liberal/Socialists, we will all get to experience the results of your group ignorance.

 

[Avatar4321]

The United States has always been a marriage between libs and cons, that's the "united" in United States. But a marriage only works if there is compromise. If one can't except the other for who they are, it won't work. You can't try to force someone to be the way you want them to be.

The best times in America has been when both sides worked together. The worst times was when the Civil war happened because neither side would compromise. Looks like this country is going back to that same old stupidity.

When a family goes through a divorce the children suffer, and the economy of the family diminishes. As a result of the republicans wanting to secede from the U.S., our country is no longer the economic leader of the world, China is.

When a family goes through a divorce, the children usually become less educated. The U.S. is now one of the most uneducated industrialized countries in the world.

When a family goes through a divorce, the home falls into disrepair. America's roads, bridges and infrastructure is in shambles.

If this divorce happens, it will be very easy for the new super power to take us over. Look what's happening to Ukraine.

The United States is a marriage between lib and conservative? Seriously? You realize the United States existed far before the left and right as currently constituted existed?

The United States is a covenant between the people and the states to promote liberty and established justice in the land.

 

[Avatar4321]

The United States has always been a marriage between libs and cons, that's the "united" in United States. But a marriage only works if there is compromise. If one can't except the other for who they are, it won't work. You can't try to force someone to be the way you want them to be.

The best times in America has been when both sides worked together. The worst times was when the Civil war happened because neither side would compromise. Looks like this country is going back to that same old stupidity.

When a family goes through a divorce the children suffer, and the economy of the family diminishes. As a result of the republicans wanting to secede from the U.S., our country is no longer the economic leader of the world, China is.

When a family goes through a divorce, the children usually become less educated. The U.S. is now one of the most uneducated industrialized countries in the world.

When a family goes through a divorce, the home falls into disrepair. America's roads, bridges and infrastructure is in shambles.

If this divorce happens, it will be very easy for the new super power to take us over. Look what's happening to Ukraine.

The word "United" has nothing to do with Conservatives or Liberal/Socialists. It has to do with 50 soverign states "United" to work together. And no, Conservatives do not want a divorce from the United States, and never have. That is nothing more than a strawman that you have created to justify your ignorant rant, and displace blame for the ills of life in the United States today.

Conservatives, most but not all, desire a return to the original concept of the United States of America. Soverign states, each experimenting with concepts that make life better for the citizens of those states, and the other states adopting what works the best for their citizens. Conservatives, most but not all, desire to return the federal government to the limits established by the contract between the soverign states and the federal government.

Conservatives, most but not all, believe that government closest to the people is government most responsive to the people, and government that is more readily controlled by the people. This contrasts with the Liberal/Socialist belief that the federal government knows best, and is more trustworthy than state and local government.

We are seeing today, just how honest and trustworthy the federal government really is. It is out of control, and there is very little that we can do about it. Thank you, Liberal/Socialists, we will all get to experience the results of your group ignorance.

I don't see how we want a divorce with the United States when we are the ones advocating a Restoration of the Constitution.

 

[Clementine]

The United States has always been a marriage between libs and cons, that's the "united" in United States. But a marriage only works if there is compromise. If one can't except the other for who they are, it won't work. You can't try to force someone to be the way you want them to be.

The best times in America has been when both sides worked together. The worst times was when the Civil war happened because neither side would compromise. Looks like this country is going back to that same old stupidity.

When a family goes through a divorce the children suffer, and the economy of the family diminishes. As a result of the republicans wanting to secede from the U.S., our country is no longer the economic leader of the world, China is.

When a family goes through a divorce, the children usually become less educated. The U.S. is now one of the most uneducated industrialized countries in the world.

When a family goes through a divorce, the home falls into disrepair. America's roads, bridges and infrastructure is in shambles.

If this divorce happens, it will be very easy for the new super power to take us over. Look what's happening to Ukraine.

There has never been a marriage between the left and right. They are more like brothers who have different views of what our country should be. Our founders were not liberal. They ran away from liberals and chose freedom, fair taxation, small government and capitalism.

It's the left that wishes to separate from the U.S. Real Americans love this country, meaning they love the constitution and appreciate why this country was founded in the first place. The left despises much of the content in our founding document. It's as if they wish to divorce the foundation on which this country began and reunite with our ex. That would be where we are ruled instead of represented. Liberals swoon at the thought of the U.S. ceding all it's power to the U.N. and allowing other countries to dictate how we live. That is why they push the global warming 'solution.'

 

[emilynghiem]

[MENTION=45484]hangover[/MENTION]
By your dividing of the US this way, you leave out all the people who are not represented by either party.

I agree people from all sides need to work together,
but you can't have this while demonizing and blaming "one side more than the other!"

The two major parties need to separate their AGENDA from govt, from "each other."

The marriage contract should remain under the Constitution which is intact.
If we enforced "equal protection of the laws" no political party could abuse govt.

So this isn't divorcing the US, but acting in the best interests of the people.

Not the two major parties or partners fighting for unequal custody and control.

The United States has always been a marriage between libs and cons, that's the "united" in United States. But a marriage only works if there is compromise. If one can't except the other for who they are, it won't work. You can't try to force someone to be the way you want them to be.

The best times in America has been when both sides worked together. The worst times was when the Civil war happened because neither side would compromise. Looks like this country is going back to that same old stupidity.

When a family goes through a divorce the children suffer, and the economy of the family diminishes. As a result of the republicans wanting to secede from the U.S., our country is no longer the economic leader of the world, China is.

When a family goes through a divorce, the children usually become less educated. The U.S. is now one of the most uneducated industrialized countries in the world.

When a family goes through a divorce, the home falls into disrepair. America's roads, bridges and infrastructure is in shambles.

If this divorce happens, it will be very easy for the new super power to take us over. Look what's happening to Ukraine.

P.S. it is the current infighting NOW that's ALREADY been happening that makes us weak.
Look how much we spent on political campaigns, while Chinese are investing in buying up LAND.
Why aren't we investing in rebuilding our economy and communities instead of having to fight off govt taking more resources and land?

BTW I agree with the general idea of what you are saying here.
1. In conflict resolution, it does not help to take sides and go in blaming one side.
So for resolution to work, it would take people from both left and right willing to include and accommodate each other as equals, without coercion or blame.

2. I would emphasize the GOOD strengths of both left and right, and use THOSE to push the parties for corrections:
* the RIGHT tend to emphasize "RULE of LAW" and the spirit of the Constitution which is central and unifying
(but it needs to be applied consistently for all people not just one sided interests, there must be checks and balances to prevent abuse)
* the Left tends to emphasize "EQUAL INCLUSION" and not using power to discriminate against minority voices
(but this needs to be applied INCLUSIVELY and not exclude people or beliefs on the right for political agenda)

instead of blaming one side or the other, both sides need to apply THEIR OWN PRINCIPLES CONSISTENTLY
or they are BOTH at fault for why there is objection to their onesided agenda that even VIOLATES their OWN PRINCIPLES.

 

[Iceweasel]

It's the left that refuses any compromise. If you don't agree FULLY with them, you are racist, homophobic, sexist, greedy, intolerant or Neanderthal. And probably all of the above.

 

[emilynghiem]

It's the left that refuses any compromise. If you don't agree FULLY with them, you are racist, homophobic, sexist, greedy, intolerant or Neanderthal. And probably all of the above.

The problem is the left represents people who don't have access to the same authority based on "ownership" of land and laws.

The more the Left relies on political party for power, that's where the bias is coming from.

They are already on unequal footing from people who draw authority from the laws;
and land ownership gives unequal authority to the owners over anyone else.

We are not standing on equal grounding to begin with.
So add dependence on political parties to access govt authority
(instead of invoking authority directly by laws and consent of the people)
and that's what causing the outcry of discrimination by class blamed on white men for setting up the system to favor property owners as having more say because of having more stake in the policies affecting their ability to keep and manage their property.

People who do not own or who have never managed property will not have the same weight. So that is why political parties and power is substituted to try to compensate,
but it will never be equal. People with ownership experience are unequal to those without.
Democrat abuse of power to try to combat this only makes the problem worse, and doesn't solve the root reason why people don't have equal power. Just throws fuel on the fire.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Cons want a divorce from the United States

There's the border, Cons..feel free to cross it.

Get the illegals out of the way first.

 

[Avatar4321]

I'm still advocating we follow the covenant we have known as the Constitution. It's the left that wants us to disregard and change it by fiat rather than the appointed method.

 

[natstew]

What we need is another civil war, a real one this time, and remember who has the guns, the Conservatives!