Cons want a divorce from the United States

[The2ndAmendment]

It's more than just the ability to compromise. There are no points on which compromise is possible. In fact the parts are getting further apart. Yes it makes us weaker. Liberals should have thought of that before their war on the American people.

Woah, [MENTION=21926]Granny[/MENTION] liked/thanked this post. Is she now a tin foil hat wearer like the rest of us?

 

[hangover]

[MENTION=45484]hangover[/MENTION]
By your dividing of the US this way, you leave out all the people who are not represented by either party.

I agree people from all sides need to work together,
but you can't have this while demonizing and blaming "one side more than the other!"

The two major parties need to separate their AGENDA from govt, from "each other."

The marriage contract should remain under the Constitution which is intact.
If we enforced "equal protection of the laws" no political party could abuse govt.

So this isn't divorcing the US, but acting in the best interests of the people.

Not the two major parties or partners fighting for unequal custody and control.

The United States has always been a marriage between libs and cons, that's the "united" in United States. But a marriage only works if there is compromise. If one can't except the other for who they are, it won't work. You can't try to force someone to be the way you want them to be.

The best times in America has been when both sides worked together. The worst times was when the Civil war happened because neither side would compromise. Looks like this country is going back to that same old stupidity.

When a family goes through a divorce the children suffer, and the economy of the family diminishes. As a result of the republicans wanting to secede from the U.S., our country is no longer the economic leader of the world, China is.

When a family goes through a divorce, the children usually become less educated. The U.S. is now one of the most uneducated industrialized countries in the world.

When a family goes through a divorce, the home falls into disrepair. America's roads, bridges and infrastructure is in shambles.

If this divorce happens, it will be very easy for the new super power to take us over. Look what's happening to Ukraine.

BTW I agree with the general idea of what you are saying here.
1. In conflict resolution, it does not help to take sides and go in blaming one side.
So for resolution to work, it would take people from both left and right willing to include and accommodate each other as equals, without coercion or blame.

2. I would emphasize the GOOD strengths of both left and right, and use THOSE to push the parties for corrections:
* the RIGHT tend to emphasize "RULE of LAW" and the spirit of the Constitution which is central and unifying
(but it needs to be applied consistently for all people not just one sided interests, there must be checks and balances to prevent abuse)
* the Left tends to emphasize "EQUAL INCLUSION" and not using power to discriminate against minority voices
(but this needs to be applied INCLUSIVELY and not exclude people or beliefs on the right for political agenda)

instead of blaming one side or the other, both sides need to apply THEIR OWN PRINCIPLES CONSISTENTLY
or they are BOTH at fault for why there is objection to their onesided agenda that even VIOLATES their OWN PRINCIPLES.

Take a look at divorce courts. The lawyers always demonize the other side, but the judge has to determine which side is the real asshole. Usually it's one or the other, not both. But sometimes it is.
In the case of the GOP wanting a divorce, it's the American people that are the judge, although the SCOTUS may try to overrule the people, ...again. It's possible the divorce may destroy the SCOTUS, especially if it comes to another Civil War.
The last time it was the Democrats that wanted a divorce, because they wanted to continue their bigotry. So clearly, they were the assholes. This time it's the Republicans that want the divorce, and it's for the same reason. It's only that the assholes have changed from dems to cons, but thankfully they're still a minority. The bigots are not only prejudiced against blacks now, they also hate gays, Hispanics, women and anyone else that doesn't conform to their ideology. THAT'S FASCISM! That's the ideology Hitler and the Nazi's envisioned for the world. There is no room for tolerance of this ideology. They are not going to compromise, and a civilized country can't appease them.

P.S. it is the current infighting NOW that's ALREADY been happening that makes us weak.
Look how much we spent on political campaigns, while Chinese are investing in buying up LAND.
Why aren't we investing in rebuilding our economy and communities instead of having to fight off govt taking more resources and land?

Look at who has made money "fee speech". Look at who has made money the power of elections. It was the cons in the SCOTUS. Look at who has made China the new super power. It was Nixon and the cons. They have allowed corporate business to send all their factories to China to get cheap labor, which has screwed the American workers. And China has used all those profits to buy this country.
But the dems have been like a submissive wife, that allows a domineering husband to run the house. But maybe, thanks to feminist women, they are ready to say, we've had enough of this crap.
But if the divorce goes through, America will become a house divided, and the wealth will be cut in half, making it easy for China to take over the world.

 

[kiwiman127]

Every poll that has come out in the last few years clearly show a huge majority of Americans want compromise and that includes the right, left and the center. But then most Americans aren't devoted extreme ideologues either, unlike most posters that inhabit USMB.

 

[Iceweasel]

Every poll that has come out in the last few years clearly show a huge majority of Americans want compromise and that includes the right, left and the center. But then most Americans aren't devoted extreme ideologues either, unlike most posters that inhabit USMB.

That's sort of vague isn't it? Compromise on what? And what does the left compromise on, ever? If you believe in traditional marriage, like most Americans, we are told by the left that we are intolerant and hateful. If you don't fully accept the global warming agenda you are corporatist fool. How do we compromise with that?

Compromise is supposed to come exclusively from the right with left wing extremists leading the way. It's time the left practices what it preaches.

 

[Katzndogz]

Even if people want compromise, there are no points on which compromise can be reached.

 

[Avatar4321]

[MENTION=45484]hangover[/MENTION]
By your dividing of the US this way, you leave out all the people who are not represented by either party.

I agree people from all sides need to work together,
but you can't have this while demonizing and blaming "one side more than the other!"

The two major parties need to separate their AGENDA from govt, from "each other."

The marriage contract should remain under the Constitution which is intact.
If we enforced "equal protection of the laws" no political party could abuse govt.

So this isn't divorcing the US, but acting in the best interests of the people.

Not the two major parties or partners fighting for unequal custody and control.

The United States has always been a marriage between libs and cons, that's the "united" in United States. But a marriage only works if there is compromise. If one can't except the other for who they are, it won't work. You can't try to force someone to be the way you want them to be.

The best times in America has been when both sides worked together. The worst times was when the Civil war happened because neither side would compromise. Looks like this country is going back to that same old stupidity.

When a family goes through a divorce the children suffer, and the economy of the family diminishes. As a result of the republicans wanting to secede from the U.S., our country is no longer the economic leader of the world, China is.

When a family goes through a divorce, the children usually become less educated. The U.S. is now one of the most uneducated industrialized countries in the world.

When a family goes through a divorce, the home falls into disrepair. America's roads, bridges and infrastructure is in shambles.

If this divorce happens, it will be very easy for the new super power to take us over. Look what's happening to Ukraine.

BTW I agree with the general idea of what you are saying here.
1. In conflict resolution, it does not help to take sides and go in blaming one side.
So for resolution to work, it would take people from both left and right willing to include and accommodate each other as equals, without coercion or blame.

2. I would emphasize the GOOD strengths of both left and right, and use THOSE to push the parties for corrections:
* the RIGHT tend to emphasize "RULE of LAW" and the spirit of the Constitution which is central and unifying
(but it needs to be applied consistently for all people not just one sided interests, there must be checks and balances to prevent abuse)
* the Left tends to emphasize "EQUAL INCLUSION" and not using power to discriminate against minority voices
(but this needs to be applied INCLUSIVELY and not exclude people or beliefs on the right for political agenda)

instead of blaming one side or the other, both sides need to apply THEIR OWN PRINCIPLES CONSISTENTLY
or they are BOTH at fault for why there is objection to their onesided agenda that even VIOLATES their OWN PRINCIPLES.

Take a look at divorce courts. The lawyers always demonize the other side, but the judge has to determine which side is the real asshole. Usually it's one or the other, not both. But sometimes it is.
In the case of the GOP wanting a divorce, it's the American people that are the judge, although the SCOTUS may try to overrule the people, ...again. It's possible the divorce may destroy the SCOTUS, especially if it comes to another Civil War.
The last time it was the Democrats that wanted a divorce, because they wanted to continue their bigotry. So clearly, they were the assholes. This time it's the Republicans that want the divorce, and it's for the same reason. It's only that the assholes have changed from dems to cons, but thankfully they're still a minority. The bigots are not only prejudiced against blacks now, they also hate gays, Hispanics, women and anyone else that doesn't conform to their ideology. THAT'S FASCISM! That's the ideology Hitler and the Nazi's envisioned for the world. There is no room for tolerance of this ideology. They are not going to compromise, and a civilized country can't appease them.

P.S. it is the current infighting NOW that's ALREADY been happening that makes us weak.
Look how much we spent on political campaigns, while Chinese are investing in buying up LAND.
Why aren't we investing in rebuilding our economy and communities instead of having to fight off govt taking more resources and land?

Look at who has made money "fee speech". Look at who has made money the power of elections. It was the cons in the SCOTUS. Look at who has made China the new super power. It was Nixon and the cons. They have allowed corporate business to send all their factories to China to get cheap labor, which has screwed the American workers. And China has used all those profits to buy this country.
But the dems have been like a submissive wife, that allows a domineering husband to run the house. But maybe, thanks to feminist women, they are ready to say, we've had enough of this crap.
But if the divorce goes through, America will become a house divided, and the wealth will be cut in half, making it easy for China to take over the world.

You aren't familiar with divorce proceedings? Quite often both parties are @$$**&@s or neither is.

Im sorry if you don't like the fact that the court struck down a law prohibiting the criticism of politicians before an election but it's pretty straight forward free speech.

 

[Avatar4321]

Even if people want compromise, there are no points on which compromise can be reached.

Depends on the issue.

 

[hangover]

Even if people want compromise, there are no points on which compromise can be reached.

Good point. How can you compromise with bigotry and greed?

 

[JoeNormal]

The United States has always been a marriage between libs and cons, that's the "united" in United States. But a marriage only works if there is compromise. If one can't except the other for who they are, it won't work. You can't try to force someone to be the way you want them to be.

The best times in America has been when both sides worked together. The worst times was when the Civil war happened because neither side would compromise. Looks like this country is going back to that same old stupidity.

When a family goes through a divorce the children suffer, and the economy of the family diminishes. As a result of the republicans wanting to secede from the U.S., our country is no longer the economic leader of the world, China is.

When a family goes through a divorce, the children usually become less educated. The U.S. is now one of the most uneducated industrialized countries in the world.

When a family goes through a divorce, the home falls into disrepair. America's roads, bridges and infrastructure is in shambles.

If this divorce happens, it will be very easy for the new super power to take us over. Look what's happening to Ukraine.

Fuck you. I don't want to work with you or with people like you.

I want to destroy you.

And it looks pretty good for us right now....

Which is the ONLY reason dimocrap scum are 'reaching out'

Fuck them. I want them absolutely destroyed. I want us to treat them like we treated Japan and Germany during WWII. I want them destroyed, devastated and razed to the ground so that they can never rise and infest our Country with their disease ever again.

Think 'Third Punic War'

Get a Conservative to explain it to you

USA Today: Republicans lead generic ballot, looking better than in 2010, 1994 | Conservative Intelligence Briefing

If you visit this forum enough, it's easy to believe that all right wingers are beligerant, bull-headed, uneducated retards. That's why I rarely visit any longer. Fortunately, out in the real world things aren't quite that dire. Congratulations USMB far right wingnuts. You're the cream of the crop of fucking whackjobs.

 

[bripat9643]

Even if people want compromise, there are no points on which compromise can be reached.

Good point. How can you compromise with bigotry and greed?

You just demonstrated why libturds need to be defeated. They aren't people that respectable Americans can work with.

 

[The T]

The United States has always been a marriage between libs and cons, that's the "united" in United States. But a marriage only works if there is compromise. If one can't except the other for who they are, it won't work. You can't try to force someone to be the way you want them to be.

The best times in America has been when both sides worked together. The worst times was when the Civil war happened because neither side would compromise. Looks like this country is going back to that same old stupidity.

When a family goes through a divorce the children suffer, and the economy of the family diminishes. As a result of the republicans wanting to secede from the U.S., our country is no longer the economic leader of the world, China is.

When a family goes through a divorce, the children usually become less educated. The U.S. is now one of the most uneducated industrialized countries in the world.

When a family goes through a divorce, the home falls into disrepair. America's roads, bridges and infrastructure is in shambles.

If this divorce happens, it will be very easy for the new super power to take us over. Look what's happening to Ukraine.

NO WE just want to either boot your dumbasses out of here or render you leftist creeps into insignificance where you can't do any more damage than you already have.

Stow it.

 

[bripat9643]

Even if people want compromise, there are no points on which compromise can be reached.

Good point. How can you compromise with bigotry and greed?

How do you compromise with a gang of thugs bent on looting you?

 

[bripat9643]

The United States has always been a marriage between libs and cons, that's the "united" in United States. But a marriage only works if there is compromise. If one can't except the other for who they are, it won't work. You can't try to force someone to be the way you want them to be.

The best times in America has been when both sides worked together. The worst times was when the Civil war happened because neither side would compromise. Looks like this country is going back to that same old stupidity.

When a family goes through a divorce the children suffer, and the economy of the family diminishes. As a result of the republicans wanting to secede from the U.S., our country is no longer the economic leader of the world, China is.

When a family goes through a divorce, the children usually become less educated. The U.S. is now one of the most uneducated industrialized countries in the world.

When a family goes through a divorce, the home falls into disrepair. America's roads, bridges and infrastructure is in shambles.

If this divorce happens, it will be very easy for the new super power to take us over. Look what's happening to Ukraine.

NO WE just want to either boot your dumbasses out of here or render you leftist creeps into insignificance where you can't do any more damage than you already have.

Stow it.

An impossible task, I'm afraid. Once a tick latches on to a source of nourishment, it never lets go.

Secession is the only way to rid ourselves of the ticks.

 

[The T]

Even if people want compromise, there are no points on which compromise can be reached.

Good point. How can you compromise with bigotry and greed?

How do you compromise with a gang of thugs bent on looting you?

A government that is not only looting monetarily...but in terms of overall LIBERTY.

 

[hangover]

The United States has always been a marriage between libs and cons, that's the "united" in United States. But a marriage only works if there is compromise. If one can't except the other for who they are, it won't work. You can't try to force someone to be the way you want them to be.

The best times in America has been when both sides worked together. The worst times was when the Civil war happened because neither side would compromise. Looks like this country is going back to that same old stupidity.

When a family goes through a divorce the children suffer, and the economy of the family diminishes. As a result of the republicans wanting to secede from the U.S., our country is no longer the economic leader of the world, China is.

When a family goes through a divorce, the children usually become less educated. The U.S. is now one of the most uneducated industrialized countries in the world.

When a family goes through a divorce, the home falls into disrepair. America's roads, bridges and infrastructure is in shambles.

If this divorce happens, it will be very easy for the new super power to take us over. Look what's happening to Ukraine.

Fuck you. I don't want to work with you or with people like you.

I want to destroy you.

And it looks pretty good for us right now....

Which is the ONLY reason dimocrap scum are 'reaching out'

Fuck them. I want them absolutely destroyed. I want us to treat them like we treated Japan and Germany during WWII. I want them destroyed, devastated and razed to the ground so that they can never rise and infest our Country with their disease ever again.

Think 'Third Punic War'

Get a Conservative to explain it to you

USA Today: Republicans lead generic ballot, looking better than in 2010, 1994 | Conservative Intelligence Briefing

Hey Edge, You've got Natstew and The T ready to join your fascist hate party. Timothy McVeigh would join you too, but he got his karma. You'll get your karma too, betcha....even if you continue to hide behind your computer.

But thanks for showing everyone the Ku Klux Klan is the base of the GOP. Bless your pointy little head.

 

[blackhawk]

Comprise is very difficult when both sides do pretty much nothing but try to demonize and vilify each other.

 

[Katzndogz]

Even if people want compromise, there are no points on which compromise can be reached.

Good point. How can you compromise with bigotry and greed?

How do you compromise with a gang of thugs bent on looting you?

This is the crux of the issue. This is why there is no point of compromise. It's actually worse than just the looting of the economy of the industrious. It the social control over what people say, what they think, the opinions they hold.

The divisions are so deep and so wide that there isn't a bridge that can join the two partitions. Neither side is at all willing to accept the authority of the other.

 

[The T]

The United States has always been a marriage between libs and cons, that's the "united" in United States. But a marriage only works if there is compromise. If one can't except the other for who they are, it won't work. You can't try to force someone to be the way you want them to be.

The best times in America has been when both sides worked together. The worst times was when the Civil war happened because neither side would compromise. Looks like this country is going back to that same old stupidity.

When a family goes through a divorce the children suffer, and the economy of the family diminishes. As a result of the republicans wanting to secede from the U.S., our country is no longer the economic leader of the world, China is.

When a family goes through a divorce, the children usually become less educated. The U.S. is now one of the most uneducated industrialized countries in the world.

When a family goes through a divorce, the home falls into disrepair. America's roads, bridges and infrastructure is in shambles.

If this divorce happens, it will be very easy for the new super power to take us over. Look what's happening to Ukraine.

Fuck you. I don't want to work with you or with people like you.

I want to destroy you.

And it looks pretty good for us right now....

Which is the ONLY reason dimocrap scum are 'reaching out'

Fuck them. I want them absolutely destroyed. I want us to treat them like we treated Japan and Germany during WWII. I want them destroyed, devastated and razed to the ground so that they can never rise and infest our Country with their disease ever again.

Think 'Third Punic War'

Get a Conservative to explain it to you

USA Today: Republicans lead generic ballot, looking better than in 2010, 1994 | Conservative Intelligence Briefing

Hey Edge, You've got Natstew and The T ready to join your fascist hate party. Timothy McVeigh would join you too, but he got his karma. You'll get your karma too, betcha....even if you continue to hide behind your computer.

But thanks for showing everyone the Ku Klux Klan is the base of the GOP. Bless your pointy little head.

The only fascists are the ones in charge in the District of Criminals, and oddly enough? They are the very same ones YOU and your cohorts support.

Shove off.

 

[hangover]

Fuck you. I don't want to work with you or with people like you.

I want to destroy you.

And it looks pretty good for us right now....

Which is the ONLY reason dimocrap scum are 'reaching out'

Fuck them. I want them absolutely destroyed. I want us to treat them like we treated Japan and Germany during WWII. I want them destroyed, devastated and razed to the ground so that they can never rise and infest our Country with their disease ever again.

Think 'Third Punic War'

Get a Conservative to explain it to you

USA Today: Republicans lead generic ballot, looking better than in 2010, 1994 | Conservative Intelligence Briefing

Hey Edge, You've got Natstew and The T ready to join your fascist hate party. Timothy McVeigh would join you too, but he got his karma. You'll get your karma too, betcha....even if you continue to hide behind your computer.

But thanks for showing everyone the Ku Klux Klan is the base of the GOP. Bless your pointy little head.

The only fascists are the ones in charge in the District of Criminals, and oddly enough? They are the very same ones YOU and your cohorts support.

Shove off.

Nope, I didn't support Nixon's crimes, but I bet you did. I didn't support Raygun's crimes, selling chemical weapons to Saddam Husein and weapons to the Contras, but I bet you did. And I didn't support Shrub's big lie of yellow cake, that fooled this country into the Iraq invasion, but I'm sure you and your fascist bigot cohorts did. It was that fascist Shrub that declared that HE was the "decider". Your shit don't flush.

 

[Katzndogz]

It's a divorce. It's Nixon's fault and I don't like your mother either. It fails to address the entire point of the division which is the parties no longer will accept the authority of the other and no longer want to live with one another any more. They no longer have the same values, no longer practice the same traditions. No longer even recognize the same heroes. Instead of trying to impose sets of values on one another, it would be better just to recognize that the nation is no longer united and deal with the reality.