Old Rocks
Diamond Member
Get out a large bag of popcorn, this is going to be a long drama.
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Put a tea partier in as speaker.
Crazy TPM extremists is what caused this mess.
Because new leadership is always cripples groups rather than reinvigorates them.
Voting against Boehner for Speaker isn't a vote for "new leadership", it's a vote for "no leadership".
As was pointed out in the OP, a majority of Congressmen need to vote for the speaker. 16 Congressmen isn't a "majority".
No one else will get the votes for it, except possibly Cantor - who's ideologically identical to Boehner.
Boner sucks Obama's cock and all of the sudden you're his biggest advocate.
They already have no leadership....Boner is a gutless wanker.It's not going to happen.
And if it did, it would cripple the Republican Party for years.
Because new leadership is always cripples groups rather than reinvigorates them.
Voting against Boehner for Speaker isn't a vote for "new leadership", it's a vote for "no leadership".
As was pointed out in the OP, a majority of Congressmen need to vote for the speaker. 16 Congressmen isn't a "majority".
No one else will get the votes for it, except possibly Cantor - who's ideologically identical to Boehner.
Congressmen Confirm That Boehner Will Either Resign Speakership Or Be Forced Out
Cybercast News Service.com ^ | 1/2/13 | Ron Meyer
Congressmen Confirm That Boehner Will Either Resign Speakership Or Be Forced Out | CNS News
I have confirmed with a group of Congressmen that House Speaker John Boehner will not be reelected Speaker tomorrow.
He will either resign or be forced out tomorrow.
Only 17 members are needed to block Speaker Boehner's election tomorrow. A Speaker needs an absolute majority of all votes cast for a specific person.
If no one has a majority, the House is speakerless. I've confirmed these rules with the House Parliamentarian.
Boener sliced his throat passing this cliff deal. Good bye!
Put a tea partier in as speaker.
Crazy TPM extremists is what caused this mess.
LOL
Yeah, all $20 trillion of it.
Congressmen Confirm That Boehner Will Either Resign Speakership Or Be Forced Out
Cybercast News Service.com ^ | 1/2/13 | Ron Meyer
Congressmen Confirm That Boehner Will Either Resign Speakership Or Be Forced Out | CNS News
I have confirmed with a group of Congressmen that House Speaker John Boehner will not be reelected Speaker tomorrow.
He will either resign or be forced out tomorrow.
Only 17 members are needed to block Speaker Boehner's election tomorrow. A Speaker needs an absolute majority of all votes cast for a specific person.
If no one has a majority, the House is speakerless. I've confirmed these rules with the House Parliamentarian.
Boener sliced his throat passing this cliff deal. Good bye!
The danger is the entire house gets to vote for Speaker. There always is the possibility a democrat may win the Speaker's gavel.
Boehner screwed the pooch when he removed conservatives( read unwilling to compromise principles) from key committee positions. So the GOP vote for Speaker could be split or a protest NON vote could take place which would leave the democrats with a defacto majority.
Congressmen Confirm That Boehner Will Either Resign Speakership Or Be Forced Out
Cybercast News Service.com ^ | 1/2/13 | Ron Meyer
Congressmen Confirm That Boehner Will Either Resign Speakership Or Be Forced Out | CNS News
I have confirmed with a group of Congressmen that House Speaker John Boehner will not be reelected Speaker tomorrow.
He will either resign or be forced out tomorrow.
Only 17 members are needed to block Speaker Boehner's election tomorrow. A Speaker needs an absolute majority of all votes cast for a specific person.
If no one has a majority, the House is speakerless. I've confirmed these rules with the House Parliamentarian.
Boener sliced his throat passing this cliff deal. Good bye!
The danger is the entire house gets to vote for Speaker. There always is the possibility a democrat may win the Speaker's gavel.
Boehner screwed the pooch when he removed conservatives( read unwilling to compromise principles) from key committee positions. So the GOP vote for Speaker could be split or a protest NON vote could take place which would leave the democrats with a defacto majority.
Crazy TPM extremists is what caused this mess.
LOL
Yeah, all $20 trillion of it.
No dingbat- they're idiot debt cultists who want spending cuts in every bill and their debt ceiling idiocy has stalled the world economic recovery for a year and a half...
"No compromise, un-American Tea Party GOP" (TIME). A Prof. Rushbeck catastrophe...
Promise?!?!?Congressmen Confirm That Boehner Will Either Resign Speakership Or Be Forced Out
Cybercast News Service.com ^ | 1/2/13 | Ron Meyer
Congressmen Confirm That Boehner Will Either Resign Speakership Or Be Forced Out | CNS News
Boener sliced his throat passing this cliff deal. Good bye!
The danger is the entire house gets to vote for Speaker. There always is the possibility a democrat may win the Speaker's gavel.
Boehner screwed the pooch when he removed conservatives( read unwilling to compromise principles) from key committee positions. So the GOP vote for Speaker could be split or a protest NON vote could take place which would leave the democrats with a defacto majority.
The Speaker of the House is elected by a majority, not a plurality.
The only way there would be a Democratic Speaker is if 16 Republicans voted for Nancy Pelosi.
If those 16 required Republicans abstain from voting, rather than voting for Boehner, there would simply be no Speaker, and no Congressional business could be undertaken until there was.
They already have no leadership....Boner is a gutless wanker.Because new leadership is always cripples groups rather than reinvigorates them.
Voting against Boehner for Speaker isn't a vote for "new leadership", it's a vote for "no leadership".
As was pointed out in the OP, a majority of Congressmen need to vote for the speaker. 16 Congressmen isn't a "majority".
No one else will get the votes for it, except possibly Cantor - who's ideologically identical to Boehner.
Just what the country needs, widen the gap between the Right and Left to insure destruction of the economy. The Right and the country would have been better off if they had accepted Obama's proposal. They would have at least had some real spending cuts but they continued to say no until they got nothing.Put a tea partier in as speaker.
Obama has never offered any real spending cuts, and never will unless he is forced to by a determined congress.
It is easy to offer spending cuts that take place in the future, because they will never happen. No future congress is going to take the hit for cuts that this congress is afraid to make.
We need to alter the spending curves on Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security, or we will, in a few short years, go over the real fiscal cliff. That one will hurt everyone, and the poorest will get hit the hardest.
And he's a liar...If he was serious about the budget cuts, he wouldn't have caved and pushed back the sequester.
He has already offered $400 billion in unspecified reductions in Medicare. He agreed to cut discretionary spending by $1.5 trillion over the next ten years. He also wants to cut military spending hundreds of billions.
Whatever is offered in spending cuts, the Right says it's not enough. This time they said it too many times and they got nothing.
What the Tea Party folks don't seem to understand is you are not going to win this war in a single battle. Neither the President, the Senate, or the public are going to accept massive spending cuts. Changing the tax structure so revenue is increased along with spending cuts phased in over time is the only way we're going to get a partiality solution. I say partial, because that is all that's possible.
Just what the country needs, widen the gap between the Right and Left to insure destruction of the economy. The Right and the country would have been better off if they had accepted Obama's proposal. They would have at least had some real spending cuts but they continued to say no until they got nothing.
Obama has never offered any real spending cuts, and never will unless he is forced to by a determined congress.
It is easy to offer spending cuts that take place in the future, because they will never happen. No future congress is going to take the hit for cuts that this congress is afraid to make.
We need to alter the spending curves on Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security, or we will, in a few short years, go over the real fiscal cliff. That one will hurt everyone, and the poorest will get hit the hardest.
He has already offered $400 billion in unspecified reductions in Medicare. He agreed to cut discretionary spending by $1.5 trillion over the next ten years. He also wants to cut military spending hundreds of billions.
Whatever is offered in spending cuts, the Right says it's not enough. This time they said it too many times and they got nothing.
What the Tea Party folks don't seem to understand is you are not going to win this war in a single battle. Neither the President, the Senate, or the public are going to accept massive spending cuts. Changing the tax structure so revenue is increased along with spending cuts phased in over time is the only way we're going to get a partiality solution. I say partial, because that is all that's possible.
I think what you fail to realize, is it's the Congress that must make the decision. The president can only propose which he has done. Congress must make the decisions.And he's a liar...If he was serious about the budget cuts, he wouldn't have caved and pushed back the sequester.
He has already offered $400 billion in unspecified reductions in Medicare. He agreed to cut discretionary spending by $1.5 trillion over the next ten years. He also wants to cut military spending hundreds of billions.
Whatever is offered in spending cuts, the Right says it's not enough. This time they said it too many times and they got nothing.
What the Tea Party folks don't seem to understand is you are not going to win this war in a single battle. Neither the President, the Senate, or the public are going to accept massive spending cuts. Changing the tax structure so revenue is increased along with spending cuts phased in over time is the only way we're going to get a partiality solution. I say partial, because that is all that's possible.
To hell with that gutless wanker.
Congress made the decision to make the fecal cliff part of the last deal to raise the debt ceiling....Now they caved in to save their own favored spending priorities, which I predicted on day one of the whole fiasco.I think what you fail to realize, is it's the Congress that must make the decision. The president can only propose which he has done. Congress must make the decisions.And he's a liar...If he was serious about the budget cuts, he wouldn't have caved and pushed back the sequester.
He has already offered $400 billion in unspecified reductions in Medicare. He agreed to cut discretionary spending by $1.5 trillion over the next ten years. He also wants to cut military spending hundreds of billions.
Whatever is offered in spending cuts, the Right says it's not enough. This time they said it too many times and they got nothing.
What the Tea Party folks don't seem to understand is you are not going to win this war in a single battle. Neither the President, the Senate, or the public are going to accept massive spending cuts. Changing the tax structure so revenue is increased along with spending cuts phased in over time is the only way we're going to get a partiality solution. I say partial, because that is all that's possible.
To hell with that gutless wanker.
It's not going to happen.
And if it did, it would cripple the Republican Party for years.
Because new leadership is always cripples groups rather than reinvigorates them.
Voting against Boehner for Speaker isn't a vote for "new leadership", it's a vote for "no leadership".