Communism and Democratic Socialism. A question for conservatives.

[LaDexter]

"democrat socialism" is like Greece, where the leech/kleptocrat class steals all the money and drives the country bankrupt

"communism" usually doesn't have elections, so it is not about "buying off" enough of the electorate to remain in power stealing.


In Russia, sucky teachers get punished. In the US, sucky teachers get promoted if they support the Democrats


You simply cannot have socialism without a rigidly patriotic and honest dictator punishing those who steal from the taxpayer. In a democracy, socialism ALWAYS results in the left wing "government workers" stealing so much the country is damaged/ruined

 

[xyz]

"democrat socialism" is like Greece, where the leech/kleptocrat class steals all the money and drives the country bankrupt.

And the Communists and Socialists in power love Putin.

 

[LaDexter]

Putin is a "gun to the head" of those in government who otherwise would steal and do no work, like most US government employees.

Without that "gun,"

socialism/communism just slides into total kleptocracy until the money is gone, the currency is worthless, and the jobless working class is throwing rocks through bank windows....

 

[Mr Natural]

If you are not 1000% right wing conservative republican, then you are a communist.

There is no middle ground with the binary thinking fools.

 

[LaDexter]

What kind of "conservative" do you mean??

a fiscal conservative like Newt Gingrich... because since Newt was couped as Speaker in 1998, nobody in the GOP has been "fiscally conservative" at all.... which is why our debt as a nation has gone from $5 tril to $21....

"conservative" prior to 1998 meant patriotic American, fiscal conservative, and non-interventionalist foreign policy

"conservative" since 1998 has meant 100% loyal to Israel, fiscally liberal to the extreme, total contempt for truth and the health of the US

 

[Correll]

You no doubt are opposed to both of those things, but I have a question. Do you understand and recognize the difference between them, or do you see them as the same?

ONe would put us into camps immediately, and the other would wait a few years first?

 

[buckeye45_73]

They both favor the collective over the individual, so neither is compatible with US values.

The Scandinavian countries have universal healthcare, work/pay regulations and free college to name a few things. Oh, and they are the happiest countries on Earth. You don't think those things favor individuals?

No, the reason is, it's one size fits all.......in America, we like things a little more inefficient, but with that comes more choice and freedom. I don't want the govt to control healthcare or who lives and dies or banks, or corporations or charities or pretty much anything but the military and obvious govt functions.

 

[buckeye45_73]

You no doubt are opposed to both of those things, but I have a question. Do you understand and recognize the difference between them, or do you see them as the same?

The main difference is communists are socialists in a hurry, aka they impose it on people, but democratic socialists just bullshit people into supporting it, but the end result is the same, govt control over things they should not be in control of and making peasants of us all.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

You no doubt are opposed to both of those things, but I have a question. Do you understand and recognize the difference between them, or do you see them as the same?

You do understand that renaming the failed policies you’re promoting doesn’t change the results right?

Scandinavian economies are doing great. Generally speaking the left simply wants to emulate what they do.

They aren’t great. What’s great about them? There’s nothing special about them at all. It’s not possible to expand what they do to country the size of the US. If it weren’t for our money they couldn’t afford to do it either.

 

[Anathema]

You no doubt are opposed to both of those things, but I have a question. Do you understand and recognize the difference between them, or do you see them as the same?

The concepts are abhorrent enough individually that it really makes no difference whether they're exactly the same or not.

 

[koshergrl]

You no doubt are opposed to both of those things, but I have a question. Do you understand and recognize the difference between them, or do you see them as the same?

Socialists and communists are big on changing the meanings of words that expose them for what they are.

Which is why I do my best to not listen to anything they say about anything.

They like to kibbitz over terms like "life" and "person" and "murder" and "marriage" and "communist" and "socialst". In short, any term that correctly identifies them or exposes them for what they are...brain dead death cultists and fiends....they will challenge and change.

 

[xyz]

Putin is a "gun to the head" of those in government who otherwise would steal and do no work, like most US government employees.

Without that "gun,"

socialism/communism just slides into total kleptocracy until the money is gone, the currency is worthless, and the jobless working class is throwing rocks through bank windows....

A corrupt capitalist state where everyone pays bribes and the mafia rules all, and oligarchs connected to the ruler can do anything they want, is just as bad.


On the other hand, a Mafia state can also pay the salary of online trolls.

 

[Confounding]

They aren’t great. What’s great about them? There’s nothing special about them at all.

Well they're growing and they aren't in debt. That's something. Their way is working very well for them.

It’s not possible to expand what they do to country the size of the US.

Yeah, I've heard this one before. Why is that not possible? They have less people yes, but that also means they have less spending ability. We could absolutely do what they do. Even if this argument was valid, which it's not, we could at least emulate some of what they do.

If it weren’t for our money they couldn’t afford to do it either.

Oh? How much do we give to them, or are you talking about our military presence that they don't need?

 

[LaDexter]

A corrupt capitalist state where everyone pays bribes and the mafia rules all, and oligarchs connected to the ruler can do anything they want, is just as bad

LOL!!!

Left wing liars always try to EQUIVOCATE....

The difference is that, in a capitalist society, the burger restaurant that charges $50 per burger goes out of business.... while in socialist/communist state run by Democrat Party, such burger restaurant gets subsidized and continues to rip off the public.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You no doubt are opposed to both of those things, but I have a question. Do you understand and recognize the difference between them, or do you see them as the same?

Democrat Socialism hasn't yet rounded up and murdered their "enemies" - people who dare to say Communism sucks

 

[xyz]

A corrupt capitalist state where everyone pays bribes and the mafia rules all, and oligarchs connected to the ruler can do anything they want, is just as bad

LOL!!!

Left wing liars always try to EQUIVOCATE....

The difference is that, in a capitalist society, the burger restaurant that charges $50 per burger goes out of business.... while in socialist/communist state run by Democrat Party, such burger restaurant gets subsidized and continues to rip off the public.

Then how come the Winter Olympics cost so much in that video that I posted?

Do you get paid by the post?

 

[LaDexter]

Dude thinks the "Winter Olympics" are capitalism...

They aren't.

They are sport run entirely by GOVERNMENT....

DUH....

 

[Papageorgio]

They both favor the collective over the individual, so neither is compatible with US values.

The Scandinavian countries have universal healthcare, work/pay regulations and free college to name a few things. Oh, and they are the happiest countries on Earth. You don't think those things favor individuals?

Good for them, I am happy for them, however I prefer our politics over theirs. I have a chance to work and to determine my life, they have no risk or reward benefit which goes against my beliefs. Maybe those that cherish universal healthcare, free college and work/pay regulations should consider moving to an area that helps them accomplish their goals.

 

[xyz]

Dude thinks the "Winter Olympics" are capitalism...

They aren't.

They are sport run entirely by GOVERNMENT....

DUH....

So now you're saying Putin's government is corrupt or Russia is communist?

 

[forkup]

They both favor the collective over the individual, so neither is compatible with US values.

The Scandinavian countries have universal healthcare, work/pay regulations and free college to name a few things. Oh, and they are the happiest countries on Earth. You don't think those things favor individuals?

Good for them, I am happy for them, however I prefer our politics over theirs. I have a chance to work and to determine my life, they have no risk or reward benefit which goes against my beliefs. Maybe those that cherish universal healthcare, free college and work/pay regulations should consider moving to an area that helps them accomplish their goals.

Really??? I live in a social Democracy, I work because I want to be able to go on vacation, want to pay the mortgage to my house, I want to have a decent car. The fact that if I wouldn't work, my kid would still go to college, I'll still have access to good health care, a roof over my head and food in my mouth doesn't change my motivation to try to have a comfortable life.