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Not at all, Coyote, I just thought OL was trying to pull a fast oneYes, you did, I should have credited youI pointed out to you that the poster had not been removed OL, when you were gloating like a 5 year old that you’d ‘won’ - as you thought the poster had been removed. Forgotten that already???Because why this thread was started is the same as why the poster was hung.I imagine the OP posted the story because tards are again trying to shut people down, as do you, when they don’t like the subject or think someone, somewhere might be offended by something.What's interesting is that no Muslim students seem to have said a word about this. And as you pointed out, the poster was not removed. So what was the point in the OP, except to generate more derision toward people who don't want to unnecessarily offend others?Who are the haters? Who are they beating up?
We don’t know who brought it to the attention of the thought police, AFAIK.
It might have been a Muslim (s), it might have been SJWs who so enjoy getting offended on behalf of others they are busy being patronisingly paternal over.
Why do you even require the basics of why a thread exists explained to you! Lol.
As Coyote pointed out, the college did not remove the poster. The committee that reviews material for bias commented, AS WAS THEIR RIGHT, that it might be offensive to others. You obviously don't want them their exercising THEIR rights, do you?
Same old, same old arm twisting and bawling that people are disagreeing with you.
BYW, you mentioned there would be ‘consequences’ for putting up the poster, so I’m still waiting for you to tell me what you’d like those consequences to be.
TIA.
If you don’t want things to get personal, stop projecting your failed assumptions thus:Once again, this has become your rant against me personally, Tilly. Every thread winds up the same way. I'm sure it bores everyone else who has something relevant to say as it does me.What on earth are you wittering on about? I accept that people have the right to whine about the poster and to draw imaginary conclusions as to the motivation of those who create them, after all, that’s all the Left is good for.Because why this thread was started is the same as why the poster was hung.I imagine the OP posted the story because tards are again trying to shut people down, as do you, when they don’t like the subject or think someone, somewhere might be offended by something.What's interesting is that no Muslim students seem to have said a word about this. And as you pointed out, the poster was not removed. So what was the point in the OP, except to generate more derision toward people who don't want to unnecessarily offend others?Who are the haters? Who are they beating up?
We don’t know who brought it to the attention of the thought police, AFAIK.
It might have been a Muslim (s), it might have been SJWs who so enjoy getting offended on behalf of others they are busy being patronisingly paternal over.
Why do you even require the basics of why a thread exists explained to you! Lol.
As Coyote pointed out, the college did not remove the poster. The committee that reviews material for bias commented, AS WAS THEIR RIGHT, that it might be offensive to others. You obviously don't want them their exercising THEIR rights, do you?
Same old, same old arm twisting and bawling that people are disagreeing with you.
I also reserve my right to say you are wrong, IMO.
It’s actually you who has a problem with people telling you they disagree with your view, and with people telling you your fantasies about why people choose to remember the murdered are just nasty speculation on your part and nothing more, and that you don’t have the right or ability to tell those people what to do.
It’s been you who’s attempting to lay down the law regarding how other people memorialise the victims, and it’s you who took credit like a 5 year old when you thought the poster had been removed.
You need to get a grip, OL, because you really do seem to be very confused on the whole matter.
Now it seems you are objecting that the thread even exists - on the basis of motivations YOU are ascribing to the OP.
Fascism by prognostication, courtesy of OL
In what way are they not 9/11 memorials?
I suppose they are...in the same way as...anti-Jewish neo-nazi propeganda is a WW2 memorial.
You said that "in no way" is the poster a 9/11 memorial. So again, how is it not a 9/11 memorial?
Let me ask you: Are you suggesting that, contrary to what the poster advises us to do, we forget these terrorist acts?
Is the poster interested in remembering (memorializing) the attacks or in fueling hatred towards a large group of people who had nothing to do with it?
I choose to believe they are interested in remembering the idealogical hatred behind the attacks and that we must strive to put an end to it. Why do you believe otherwise?
You can choose to believe it. It is your right.
There are times when memorials hide agendas. What is the purpose? To gin up hate against Muslims? Or to to inform the public on Islamic terrorism? Why just Islamic terrorism? I think those are good questions to ask don’t you?
How do posters like that help to put an end to ideological hatred?
The difference is important. One is a memorial. The other is the use of a tragedy to promote an agenda.
What agenda might that be, ending terrorism perhaps?
How does it it address the many complex factors around the world driving terrorism?
What solutions does it propose or hint at?
Note: I posted a number of posters that clearly did NOT advocate forgetting. Why would you think that I am suggesting we "forget" it?
Because while you have no problem not forgetting, you seem to have a problem with conservatives not forgetting. If you advocate not forgetting, it is a righteous crusade against hate. If a conservative advocates not forgetting, it's Islamaphobia and racism.
You are essentially stating that a campaign of hate is itself a “righteous” crusade against hate.
Historically, those things usually result in violence against innocent people. Are you ok with that?
Or are there better ways of sending out a message...one that sends a united message against Terrorism
...or addresses terrorism of all kinds. I remember Oklahoma City. Do you?
George Bush was a conservative. He advocated not forgetting. He wasn’t accused of Islamaphobia. Maybe it has more to do with the message than the messenger.
In the meantime, rightwing media is in a frenzy of news stories claiming Ripon banned YAF’s posters when in fact, they did not.
I suppose they are...in the same way as...anti-Jewish neo-nazi propeganda is a WW2 memorial.
You said that "in no way" is the poster a 9/11 memorial. So again, how is it not a 9/11 memorial?
Let me ask you: Are you suggesting that, contrary to what the poster advises us to do, we forget these terrorist acts?
Is the poster interested in remembering (memorializing) the attacks or in fueling hatred towards a large group of people who had nothing to do with it?
I choose to believe they are interested in remembering the idealogical hatred behind the attacks and that we must strive to put an end to it. Why do you believe otherwise?
You can choose to believe it. It is your right.
There are times when memorials hide agendas. What is the purpose? To gin up hate against Muslims? Or to to inform the public on Islamic terrorism? Why just Islamic terrorism? I think those are good questions to ask don’t you?
I think a good question to ask is: Are you more upset that these terror attacks killed thousands of innocent people or are you more upset that a conservative group pointed out that most were committed by radical Muslims?
It identifies the enemy. The same way our military identifies the enemy.
Yes. What purpose does that serve on a college campus, with the admonition, Never Forget? Have we got an active draft? Desperate for recruits? But it is not an Uncle Sam poster, is it?
How does it “clearly” identify “the enemy”? If...by some bizarre turn of events...you woke up from a 50 year coma...and saw it...what would you make of it?The Iranian connection is that there are different sect of Islamic Fundies. And the proxies from Hesbolah who are Iranian backed and destroying ENTIRE CITIES in Syria are no different in terms of violence and conquest and terrorism from the Sunni forms of the same disease...
Shame on the US for interfering. We SUCK at Mid-East Foreign Policy. But the rise of the Ayatollahs and their nuclear program and their $Bills in support for proxy wars and proxy terrorism and KILLING OUR TROOPS in Iraq -- is part of the issue.
Take the news from an Arab source.
Iran's 'proxy armies' must stop: US
What would college kids make of it? And who would some of them target?
Not to be entirely snarky, but SEEING that poster might have saved their lives by THINKING about how dangerous their "peace mission" would be. Seriously... 
College Says 9/11 Memorial Posters ‘Offensive’ to Muslim Students
A college has ruled that 9/11 memorial posters put up by a conservative group are offensive to Muslim students.
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If you are offended get the fk out, Don't like it don't look at it. You skanks are not going to turn our Country into the shit hold you left or your parents left, you will not make our rights and freedoms come forth GTF.......
You said that "in no way" is the poster a 9/11 memorial. So again, how is it not a 9/11 memorial?
Let me ask you: Are you suggesting that, contrary to what the poster advises us to do, we forget these terrorist acts?
Is the poster interested in remembering (memorializing) the attacks or in fueling hatred towards a large group of people who had nothing to do with it?
I choose to believe they are interested in remembering the idealogical hatred behind the attacks and that we must strive to put an end to it. Why do you believe otherwise?
You can choose to believe it. It is your right.
There are times when memorials hide agendas. What is the purpose? To gin up hate against Muslims? Or to to inform the public on Islamic terrorism? Why just Islamic terrorism? I think those are good questions to ask don’t you?
I think a good question to ask is: Are you more upset that these terror attacks killed thousands of innocent people or are you more upset that a conservative group pointed out that most were committed by radical Muslims?
I think a better question is why are you making this about liberals and conservatives? You are assuming that means something to me. It doesn't. That is twice you have tried to interject it into the conversation.
I am more interested in posters, ideas and actions that lead to solutions. What solutions would this lead to? If it led to increased violence towards people percieved as Muslim...is that acceptable collateral damage in your view?
There are many ways to remember.
The stuff on police shootings and such is really another topic with a different set of underlying issues to it.
Ghost of a Rider said:I already explained that to you. Asking again will only get you the same explanation. But let me explain again anyway: The poster was put up by a college conservative group and in my opinion, given the current hostile climate against conservatives in this country and the fact that colleges are overwhelmingly liberal, I think that differing political views are what sparked the controversy. Am I wrong? Maybe. But not even you can deny that conservatives these days are being viewed as not much more than Nazis in pickups.
Coyote said:We both seem to be arguing from mistaken assumptions here. One is that I care about the political ideology behind the poster. I don’t.
As a point of reference, going back to your earlier post, I would have expressed similarar concerns about the poster of police shooting victims, a poster which leaves out any meaningful context for each of the images and simplifies it to one item, people of color killed by police. Most people don’t think beyond the surface do they? And in anger pick easy targets to scapegoat whether it is an angry nutter targeting police or an angry nutter targeting a Sikh temple.
Speaking of hostile political climates you seem to ignore the fact that for every Nazi in a pickup truck we have a rampaging rioting Antifa/BLM image being promoted...by the president himself I might add.
The disconnect here is that you are arguing from the assumption that their motive was racist as if it was fact. Put simply, you don't know this.
We have different views. Aren’t you assuming there is no anti Muslim intent behind the poster? A similar disconnect on your part leading to an opposite assumption?
Citing bias reports filed during last year’s 9/11: Never Forget Project, administrators at Ripon College in Ripon, Wisconsin, ruled that YAF’s 9/11: Never Forget Project posters are creating an “environment” where “students from a Muslim background would feel singled out and/or harassed.” As a result, Ripon administrators will not allow the Ripon Young Americans for Freedom to hang the flyers as part of their work to remember the victims of September 11 or other victims of radical Islamist terrorism.
But, according to the news Ripon did not ban the posters. What is the truth? If someone outright lies...motives are brought into question. Maybe they are seeking professional victimhood status, a trend previously associated with the left that is gaining traction on the right. Colleges are known for being overly sensitive to student body sensitivities and censored (sometimes wrongfully) free speech.
But...the college has some valid points. YAF claims:
Administrators further—and falsely—claim that one of their objections is because radical Islamist terrorism “represents a small percentage of the terrorist attacks that happened to this country, and they don’t represent the full gamut, and they show a very small picture of a specific religion or nationality instead of the larger viewpoint.” From 1992 to 2017, Islamists were responsible for 92% of deaths caused by terrorism in the United States, and are “far and away, the deadliest group of terrorists by ideology.”
The college is correct. YAF is using number of deaths, most of which occurred in 911, a single attack, with the highest number of casualties since OKC.
I'm not sure what happened, I received the e-mail alert that you responded to my post but when I got here it was apparently deleted or something. So I copy and pasted from the e-mail and am responding here.
Ghost of a Rider said:I already explained that to you. Asking again will only get you the same explanation. But let me explain again anyway: The poster was put up by a college conservative group and in my opinion, given the current hostile climate against conservatives in this country and the fact that colleges are overwhelmingly liberal, I think that differing political views are what sparked the controversy. Am I wrong? Maybe. But not even you can deny that conservatives these days are being viewed as not much more than Nazis in pickups.
Coyote said:We both seem to be arguing from mistaken assumptions here. One is that I care about the political ideology behind the poster. I don’t.
My assumption was not that you cared, my assumption was that you had not considered it. Since you say you don't care, I would say my assumption was correct.
As a point of reference, going back to your earlier post, I would have expressed similarar concerns about the poster of police shooting victims, a poster which leaves out any meaningful context for each of the images and simplifies it to one item, people of color killed by police. Most people don’t think beyond the surface do they? And in anger pick easy targets to scapegoat whether it is an angry nutter targeting police or an angry nutter targeting a Sikh temple.
Maybe you would and maybe you wouldn't have expressed similar concerns. The point is that the same type of poster for a different cause raised zero eyebrows.
Speaking of hostile political climates you seem to ignore the fact that for every Nazi in a pickup truck we have a rampaging rioting Antifa/BLM image being promoted...by the president himself I might add.
I don't know about anything involving Trump and Antifa/BLM images.
The disconnect here is that you are arguing from the assumption that their motive was racist as if it was fact. Put simply, you don't know this.
We have different views. Aren’t you assuming there is no anti Muslim intent behind the poster? A similar disconnect on your part leading to an opposite assumption?
The difference here is that I make no claims about the image and my assumption is based on taking the poster at face value, i.e., a series of terror attacks and the admonition not to forget. At face value, I take this to mean not to forget the terror attacks and the hate behind them.
Those criticizing the poster are the ones who went a step further and inferred Islamaphobia based only on the fact that all the attacks depicted were committed by radical Muslims. Given the fact that so many terror attacks are committed by radical Muslims, I feel it's a silly inference.
Citing bias reports filed during last year’s 9/11: Never Forget Project, administrators at Ripon College in Ripon, Wisconsin, ruled that YAF’s 9/11: Never Forget Project posters are creating an “environment” where “students from a Muslim background would feel singled out and/or harassed.” As a result, Ripon administrators will not allow the Ripon Young Americans for Freedom to hang the flyers as part of their work to remember the victims of September 11 or other victims of radical Islamist terrorism.
But, according to the news Ripon did not ban the posters. What is the truth? If someone outright lies...motives are brought into question. Maybe they are seeking professional victimhood status, a trend previously associated with the left that is gaining traction on the right. Colleges are known for being overly sensitive to student body sensitivities and censored (sometimes wrongfully) free speech.
The person (Spencer Brown) who apparently made the claim that the posters were barred works at the YAF headquarters in Virginia. The school is in Wisconsin and the posters were put up there so I don't know that the school's YAF chapter had anything to do with the false claim.
Having said that, as for questioning motives, my first instinct is to say that Brown jumped the gun out of paranoia stemming from the fact that conservatives these days are being viewed as lower class citizens.
But...the college has some valid points. YAF claims:
Administrators further—and falsely—claim that one of their objections is because radical Islamist terrorism “represents a small percentage of the terrorist attacks that happened to this country, and they don’t represent the full gamut, and they show a very small picture of a specific religion or nationality instead of the larger viewpoint.” From 1992 to 2017, Islamists were responsible for 92% of deaths caused by terrorism in the United States, and are “far and away, the deadliest group of terrorists by ideology.”
The college is correct. YAF is using number of deaths, most of which occurred in 911, a single attack, with the highest number of casualties since OKC.
The school is incorrect when they say "radical Islamist terrorism “represents a small percentage of the terrorist attacks that happened to this country..."
Only three of the twelve terror attacks since 1980 listed here at CNN's website were not committed by Muslim terrorists. In addition, according to this site, the terror attacks listed from 2000 to 2014 are overwhelmingly committed by Muslim terrorists.
It identifies the enemy. The same way our military identifies the enemy.
Yes. What purpose does that serve on a college campus, with the admonition, Never Forget? Have we got an active draft? Desperate for recruits? But it is not an Uncle Sam poster, is it?
It's a valid step in MEMORIALIZING --- that for some damn reason, leftists tend to want to leave out. It's a MEANINGFUL RESOLUTION to "never forget". As in bombing the crap out of ISIS in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, and Afghanistan which leftists seem to support anyways. At least when THEIR team is in power.
When American journalists or citizens overseas get beheaded by the "JV Team" -- we're SUPPOSED to respond. So you're enlisted in that decision.
I watched my Libertarian candidate get ambushed at 7AM by snarky Morning Joe staff with the question -- "What would YOU do about Aleppo"??? That's a question EVERY American needs to ponder when they acquiesce to using the awesome power of the American military. YOU and I are drafted to weigh in on those kind of decisions.
Now my tribe might not KNOW what to do about "Aleppo" because there is virtually nothing you can do to fix a city reduced to marbles and dust. And my tribe has a 25 yr consistent record of OPPOSING regime changes in the Middle East at the slightest whim. A policy that has LED to creating sucking voids of power PERFECT for breeding Radical Islamist extremists. But the cogent answer would have been to kiss Assad's ass, not get in the way of him restoring order to his country UNLESS he requests it --- and organizing a WORLD plan for creating safe corridors and zones for the refugees TO STAY in the Levant area.
Neither the Dems or Repubs see it that way. That's the discussion that we NEVER HAVE. And it's killing this country.. So I ENCOURAGE "remembering" and having the conversion. Apparently -- you and others of your tribe don't..
I'm not sure what happened, I received the e-mail alert that you responded to my post but when I got here it was apparently deleted or something. So I copy and pasted from the e-mail and am responding here.
Ghost of a Rider said:I already explained that to you. Asking again will only get you the same explanation. But let me explain again anyway: The poster was put up by a college conservative group and in my opinion, given the current hostile climate against conservatives in this country and the fact that colleges are overwhelmingly liberal, I think that differing political views are what sparked the controversy. Am I wrong? Maybe. But not even you can deny that conservatives these days are being viewed as not much more than Nazis in pickups.
Coyote said:We both seem to be arguing from mistaken assumptions here. One is that I care about the political ideology behind the poster. I don’t.
My assumption was not that you cared, my assumption was that you had not considered it. Since you say you don't care, I would say my assumption was correct.
I would say you are assuming that the fact they are conservative makes a difference in how they are treated based on some sort of percieved victimhood.
As a point of reference, going back to your earlier post, I would have expressed similarar concerns about the poster of police shooting victims, a poster which leaves out any meaningful context for each of the images and simplifies it to one item, people of color killed by police. Most people don’t think beyond the surface do they? And in anger pick easy targets to scapegoat whether it is an angry nutter targeting police or an angry nutter targeting a Sikh temple.
Maybe you would and maybe you wouldn't have expressed similar concerns. The point is that the same type of poster for a different cause raised zero eyebrows.
The poster of of the police killings? Was that posted on a college campus?
Speaking of hostile political climates you seem to ignore the fact that for every Nazi in a pickup truck we have a rampaging rioting Antifa/BLM image being promoted...by the president himself I might add.
I don't know about anything involving Trump and Antifa/BLM images.
The disconnect here is that you are arguing from the assumption that their motive was racist as if it was fact. Put simply, you don't know this.
We have different views. Aren’t you assuming there is no anti Muslim intent behind the poster? A similar disconnect on your part leading to an opposite assumption?
The difference here is that I make no claims about the image and my assumption is based on taking the poster at face value, i.e., a series of terror attacks and the admonition not to forget. At face value, I take this to mean not to forget the terror attacks and the hate behind them.
Those criticizing the poster are the ones who went a step further and inferred Islamaphobia based only on the fact that all the attacks depicted were committed by radical Muslims. Given the fact that so many terror attacks are committed by radical Muslims, I feel it's a silly inference.
We all make assumptions about motives . You say you you take their poster at face value (no questioning of motives) but you don't seem to take the poster of police killings of blacks at face value. Why the discrepency?
You say it's a silly inference. Perhaps you would better understand it if you view as you view it as you would have me view hostile attitudes towards conservatives - that is, view it in the current to Muslims environment that does not make distinctions between terrorists and Muslims.
Citing bias reports filed during last year’s 9/11: Never Forget Project, administrators at Ripon College in Ripon, Wisconsin, ruled that YAF’s 9/11: Never Forget Project posters are creating an “environment” where “students from a Muslim background would feel singled out and/or harassed.” As a result, Ripon administrators will not allow the Ripon Young Americans for Freedom to hang the flyers as part of their work to remember the victims of September 11 or other victims of radical Islamist terrorism.
But, according to the news Ripon did not ban the posters. What is the truth? If someone outright lies...motives are brought into question. Maybe they are seeking professional victimhood status, a trend previously associated with the left that is gaining traction on the right. Colleges are known for being overly sensitive to student body sensitivities and censored (sometimes wrongfully) free speech.
The person (Spencer Brown) who apparently made the claim that the posters were barred works at the YAF headquarters in Virginia. The school is in Wisconsin and the posters were put up there so I don't know that the school's YAF chapter had anything to do with the false claim.
Having said that, as for questioning motives, my first instinct is to say that Brown jumped the gun out of paranoia stemming from the fact that conservatives these days are being viewed as lower class citizens.
If Brown jumped the gun why has there been no retraction, no correction of his claims? It's been some time now...plenty of time to correct the record.
But...the college has some valid points. YAF claims:
Administrators further—and falsely—claim that one of their objections is because radical Islamist terrorism “represents a small percentage of the terrorist attacks that happened to this country, and they don’t represent the full gamut, and they show a very small picture of a specific religion or nationality instead of the larger viewpoint.” From 1992 to 2017, Islamists were responsible for 92% of deaths caused by terrorism in the United States, and are “far and away, the deadliest group of terrorists by ideology.”
The college is correct. YAF is using number of deaths, most of which occurred in 911, a single attack, with the highest number of casualties since OKC.
The school is incorrect when they say "radical Islamist terrorism “represents a small percentage of the terrorist attacks that happened to this country..."
Only three of the twelve terror attacks since 1980 listed here at CNN's website were not committed by Muslim terrorists. In addition, according to this site, the terror attacks listed from 2000 to 2014 are overwhelmingly committed by Muslim terrorists.
Are you being deliberately deceptive? Surely you realize that CNN's site represents only a fraction of attacks - the "most notable" as it states.
Certainly there have been many more than 3 in 40 years.
For example: Which Ideology Has Inspired The Most Murders In Terrorist Attacks On U.S. Soil?
The poster is not banned - although the YAF has yet to correct it's claims.
I don't know about YOUR tribe - but if it's part of the tribes refusing to admit a reasonable number of refugees wanting to come here, that have beenvery well vetted, or worse - those who have aided us in our misboggoten wars (which I never supported) - and are unable to get the promised visas and protections they were promised...then I'm not too impressed with any tribes.
Your tribe?It identifies the enemy. The same way our military identifies the enemy.
Yes. What purpose does that serve on a college campus, with the admonition, Never Forget? Have we got an active draft? Desperate for recruits? But it is not an Uncle Sam poster, is it?
It's a valid step in MEMORIALIZING --- that for some damn reason, leftists tend to want to leave out. It's a MEANINGFUL RESOLUTION to "never forget". As in bombing the crap out of ISIS in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, and Afghanistan which leftists seem to support anyways. At least when THEIR team is in power.
When American journalists or citizens overseas get beheaded by the "JV Team" -- we're SUPPOSED to respond. So you're enlisted in that decision.
I watched my Libertarian candidate get ambushed at 7AM by snarky Morning Joe staff with the question -- "What would YOU do about Aleppo"??? That's a question EVERY American needs to ponder when they acquiesce to using the awesome power of the American military. YOU and I are drafted to weigh in on those kind of decisions.
Now my tribe might not KNOW what to do about "Aleppo" because there is virtually nothing you can do to fix a city reduced to marbles and dust. And my tribe has a 25 yr consistent record of OPPOSING regime changes in the Middle East at the slightest whim. A policy that has LED to creating sucking voids of power PERFECT for breeding Radical Islamist extremists. But the cogent answer would have been to kiss Assad's ass, not get in the way of him restoring order to his country UNLESS he requests it --- and organizing a WORLD plan for creating safe corridors and zones for the refugees TO STAY in the Levant area.
Neither the Dems or Repubs see it that way. That's the discussion that we NEVER HAVE. And it's killing this country.. So I ENCOURAGE "remembering" and having the conversion. Apparently -- you and others of your tribe don't..
That's not a 9/11 poster. That's a anti-muslim poster. All the pictures in the poster are from events which were committed by Islamic terrorist. It's trying to paint a picture that all Muslims are terrorist. You conservatives think your slick with your propaganda. Lol
Why don't they make a poster from events where white terrorist attacked?
Your tribe?It identifies the enemy. The same way our military identifies the enemy.
Yes. What purpose does that serve on a college campus, with the admonition, Never Forget? Have we got an active draft? Desperate for recruits? But it is not an Uncle Sam poster, is it?
It's a valid step in MEMORIALIZING --- that for some damn reason, leftists tend to want to leave out. It's a MEANINGFUL RESOLUTION to "never forget". As in bombing the crap out of ISIS in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, and Afghanistan which leftists seem to support anyways. At least when THEIR team is in power.
When American journalists or citizens overseas get beheaded by the "JV Team" -- we're SUPPOSED to respond. So you're enlisted in that decision.
I watched my Libertarian candidate get ambushed at 7AM by snarky Morning Joe staff with the question -- "What would YOU do about Aleppo"??? That's a question EVERY American needs to ponder when they acquiesce to using the awesome power of the American military. YOU and I are drafted to weigh in on those kind of decisions.
Now my tribe might not KNOW what to do about "Aleppo" because there is virtually nothing you can do to fix a city reduced to marbles and dust. And my tribe has a 25 yr consistent record of OPPOSING regime changes in the Middle East at the slightest whim. A policy that has LED to creating sucking voids of power PERFECT for breeding Radical Islamist extremists. But the cogent answer would have been to kiss Assad's ass, not get in the way of him restoring order to his country UNLESS he requests it --- and organizing a WORLD plan for creating safe corridors and zones for the refugees TO STAY in the Levant area.
Neither the Dems or Repubs see it that way. That's the discussion that we NEVER HAVE. And it's killing this country.. So I ENCOURAGE "remembering" and having the conversion. Apparently -- you and others of your tribe don't..
Have you ever considered putting any of the principles of your tribe into place, here?
It would be a refreshing, albeit radical change from current status quo. .
No. I was talking about putting libertarian principles into play in the way you operate this website.Your tribe?It identifies the enemy. The same way our military identifies the enemy.
Yes. What purpose does that serve on a college campus, with the admonition, Never Forget? Have we got an active draft? Desperate for recruits? But it is not an Uncle Sam poster, is it?
It's a valid step in MEMORIALIZING --- that for some damn reason, leftists tend to want to leave out. It's a MEANINGFUL RESOLUTION to "never forget". As in bombing the crap out of ISIS in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, and Afghanistan which leftists seem to support anyways. At least when THEIR team is in power.
When American journalists or citizens overseas get beheaded by the "JV Team" -- we're SUPPOSED to respond. So you're enlisted in that decision.
I watched my Libertarian candidate get ambushed at 7AM by snarky Morning Joe staff with the question -- "What would YOU do about Aleppo"??? That's a question EVERY American needs to ponder when they acquiesce to using the awesome power of the American military. YOU and I are drafted to weigh in on those kind of decisions.
Now my tribe might not KNOW what to do about "Aleppo" because there is virtually nothing you can do to fix a city reduced to marbles and dust. And my tribe has a 25 yr consistent record of OPPOSING regime changes in the Middle East at the slightest whim. A policy that has LED to creating sucking voids of power PERFECT for breeding Radical Islamist extremists. But the cogent answer would have been to kiss Assad's ass, not get in the way of him restoring order to his country UNLESS he requests it --- and organizing a WORLD plan for creating safe corridors and zones for the refugees TO STAY in the Levant area.
Neither the Dems or Repubs see it that way. That's the discussion that we NEVER HAVE. And it's killing this country.. So I ENCOURAGE "remembering" and having the conversion. Apparently -- you and others of your tribe don't..
Have you ever considered putting any of the principles of your tribe into place, here?
It would be a refreshing, albeit radical change from current status quo. .
I'm doing that. I'm writing articles for submission, helping the Libertarians, solving the world problems one paragraph right after the other. Could do an article about the insanity of repeating the same mistakes in Middle East over and over and over again while "my tribe" got the message about trying to "fix" Middle East right about 25 years ago..
On USMB -- my stuff would get just a lot of tl:dr ratings from the regulars.
