When we talk about Education, then, including, we mean learning to Work.

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    When we talk about Education, then, including, we mean learning to Work.

    I will show the theses as taught Soviet children and I want to find out how it is done in America.
    What is Work?
    Every person who grew up in the USSR, except knowledge of Science, Culture, Sports, should have known the basic positions for the household:
    boys - carpenters1, carpenters2, locksmiths, electronics ...
    girls - medicine, housekeeping ...

    This knowledge was given by the secondary school.
    Training from 7 years to 17 years old. 10 classes.

    Here are the positions of teaching Trud in the USSR.

    1st class, 7 years of age.
    Boys and girls glue appliqués from colored paper, collect herbariums, mold figures from plasticine ... later .. they learn to embroider with colored threads handkerchiefs. Later .. they learn the difference between cotton, wool and synthetic threads, they learn to darn socks, sew buttons ..

    2 class, 8 years of age.
    Boys and girls learn to work with constructors/disainers... That is a set of metal parts with slats, bolts, washers and nuts.
    The USSR was selling an analogue of the modern plastic LEGO, but it was not considered a constructor/designer, but a toy, since it garbage too primitive. Hahaha..
    Children are given a simple knowledge about metals, wood, plastic.

    3 class, 9 years of age.
    The boys are taught the basics of carpentry1.
    They should be able to work with simple tools.
    Girls are taught the basics of culinary arts.

    4th class. 10 years of age.
    Boys study in school workshops and study carpentry1 and carpentry2. They make real wooden constructions, which the school then uses.
    Girls study in school workshops and study the art of sewing, cooks. They actually prepare food

    5th class 11 years of age.
    Boys learn locksmith's art, work with metal
    Girls study medicine

    6th class 12 years of age.
    Boys are studying turning art, they start working on machine tools.
    Girls start working on sewing machines.

    7th class 13 years of age
    8th class 14 years of age.
    I do not remember the differences .. in those years schoolchildren improved their knowledge.

    9th class 15 years of age.
    Boys and girls study Labor 1 day a week
    Outside the school at a production plant. Directions: locksmith, turner, electrician, electronics, informatics, cars, nurse, housekeeping ... And, if you are a young man, you can study female specialties. Or vice versa.

    10th grade 16-17 years old Boys and Girls are practicing realistically at the Factory or the Enterprise ...

    Now, I'm interested. How is Labor taught in American schools?
     
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    Used to have that kind of stuff here...but it's not testable with standardized tests.
     
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    Please use simple English words and concepts, I do not understand.
    I ask a simple question:
    In the USSR, training in Labor is a compulsory subject in school. I'm interested. Is teaching labor a compulsory subject in America?
    A compulsory subject is a subject that is evaluated and gives privileges when entering an institute or university.
     
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    In America only the women go into labor. I’m surprised you didn’t know that.
     
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    Wish schools would be more trade focused in USA. I got a Bachelor's and Masters now I drive a truck. Wish I skipped college and went to trade school.
     
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    Thank you.
    As I understand it, in America, teaching subjects is at will, which is very different.
    In the USSR, school education was the same for all. Same textbooks, the same subjects and even the same uniform.
    The school is 10 years of study. Including - the training of physical workr. "a man must be able to work not only with his head, but also with his hands."
    This is not professional training. You can not get a job as a carpenter, fitter, turner or electrician, having only a school education. But, in the USSR it was believed that every man should have basic knowledge of working with wood, metal, electricity, etc., every woman can sew, cook, etc.

    Vocational education is:
    1. If you have finished 8 classes of school, you can enter the "Professional School" PTU, after which you will be working: a builder, a mechanic, a turner Or, enter the "Technical College", then you will be an electrician, a nurse, an auto mechanic ...
    2. If you graduated from the 10th grade of the school, or graduated from the PTU, the Technical College, you can enter the Institute or the University.

    You will receive a Higher Education.
    - Graduate Instite - an engineer, doctor, economist, lawyer. As I understand it, it corresponds to a bachelor's degree.
    - A graduate of the University is a scientific worker in all branches of science. Master?
    3. If you graduated from an institute or university, you can study in graduate school and defend a thesis, then get a scientific title.

    It should be noted that all education in the USSR and, in part, in modern Russia, is free. In addition, if you are a student and study well, you receive a scholarship - about 1/3 of the average salary in the country.
    In the early 90's, when the USSR collapsed, many people with higher education lost their jobs. Especially technical experts - physics, mathematics.
     
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    That's why your aircraft were still being built with rivets 30 years after the rest of the world moved on.
     
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    We used to have vocational education to teach kids how to turn a wrench, perform basic medical services, fix air conditioners, etc... Somewhere someone decided that we should move people into college instead of the workforce after high school. I think that was a very big mistake made by our educators.
     
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    There are still voc schools, with more being built all the time. Waiting lists to get into good voc schools are long.
     
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    Are you talking about public high schools? If so that's great. They got rid of the entire VOC/ED department in my old HS.
     

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