Coal fired plants

[bripat9643]

We should build more as the cheaper the energy is=more profit to hire more workers=lower unemployment.

When will idiots learn that employers don't hire people just because they are making a profit.

Actually they do. if you're making a good profit, that means the public wants more of your product. That means hiring more workers.

 

[bripat9643]

Using this rule the Obama Administration is in the process of shutting down over 100 coal fired electric generating plants and causing the operating costs of the rest to increase.

Clean Air Mercury Rule | US EPA

Now mind you this is an election year so Kind Obama has ask the EPA to wait till NEXT year to actually close the plants and increase 60 percent of the Countries electric bills.

Awww now a little mercury never hurt anyone.
in my state it is ok to eat one meal of fresh caught fish a month for a healthy adult anyway.

95% of all the Mercury in the environment comes from natural sources, and 80% of the remainder comes from sources outside of the U.S. So what is cutting back on 1% of the Mercury going to do for the environment? That's a great reason to double the cost of electricity for every man, woman and child in this country.

 

[bripat9643]

Smoke from coal burning actually used to kill people in the USA. Short term kill, not long term with mercury or cancer, etc.

I guess we should not have cleaned it up any?

You're mistaken. No one ever died from living near a coal fired power plant.

If you believe otherwise, produce the evidence.

 

[g5000]

No one ever died from living near a coal fired power plant.

You're not REALLY that dumb, are you?

The state DNR lists coal-fired facilities as the state’s top emitters of mercury, sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxides and particulate matter — hazardous chemicals that major studies have linked to increased mortality and maladies ranging from lung cancer to birth defects. They also are the leading source of the mercury that contaminates fish in every lake in the state, according to the DNR.

According to a 2010 study by the Boston-based Clean Air Task Force, every year in the United States, emissions from Wisconsin power plants cause about 268 deaths, 201 hospital admissions and 456 heart attacks. Other studies suggest pollution from coal combustion can cause serious health problems even in areas like Alma that meet federal air-quality standards.

Under legal pressure, Wisconsin coal-fired power plants curb emissions | WisconsinWatch.org

 

[g5000]

Asthma attacks, respiratory disease, heart attacks, and premature deaths - all of these are among the serious public health problems caused by air pollution from the electric power sector. In 2000, the Clean Air Task Force, on behalf of the Clear the Air campaign, commissioned Abt Associates to quantify the health impacts of fine particle air pollution from power plants. This study found that tens of thousands of people die prematurely every year and hundreds of thousands more suffer asthma attacks as a result of power plant pollution alone. With new research linking lung cancer deaths and heart attacks to power plant pollution, Clear the Air commissioned Abt Associates to update its 2000 study to reflect this new science and examine different policies being debated at the federal level to clean up power plants.

Fine particle pollution from U.S. power plants cuts short the lives of nearly 24,000 people each year, including 2800 from lung cancer.
The average number of life-years lost by individuals dying prematurely from exposure to particulate matter is 14 years.
Hundreds of thousands of Americans suffer each year from asthma attacks, cardiac problems, and respiratory problems associated with fine particles from power plants. These illnesses result in tens of thousands of emergency room visits, hospitalizations, and lost work days each year.
Power plant pollution is responsible for 38,200 non-fatal heart attacks per year.
The elderly, children, and those with respiratory disease are most severely affected by fine particle pollution from power plants.
People who live in metropolitan areas near coal-fired plants feel their impacts most acutely . their attributable death rates are much higher than areas with few or no coal-fired plants.
The vast majority (at least 90 percent or 22,000) of the deaths due to fine particle pollution could be avoided by capping power plant sulfur dioxide and nitrogen oxide pollution at levels consistent with the installation of today's best available emissions controls.

Dirty Air, Dirty Power - Clean Air Task Force (CATF)

 

[g5000]

Michigan’s old coal plants cost an average family of four about $500 dollars per year in damages and expenses from hospital admissions and health problems, according to a report released this week by the Michigan Environmental Council

The report, prepared for MEC by Massachusetts-based Environmental Health and Engineering, Inc. used U.S. Environmental Protection Agency methodology to calculate the public health costs of particulate emissions from the nine Michigan coal plants that went into operation between 1949 and 1968.

Report: Michigan

 

[g5000]

Air pollution from nine older coal-burning power plants in Illinois contributes to particulate matter, sulfur dioxide and nitrogen dioxide exposure over a large region. Using a state-of-the-art computer model that shows how weather patterns disperse the material, Harvard School of Public Health environmental scientists John Spengler and Jonathan Levy estimated the impact of the nine power plants on air pollution levels and health in sections of nine Midwestern states.

Citing evidence from studies of the health effects of air pollution, Spengler and Levy were able to estimate that current emissions contribute an annual extra risk of 300 premature deaths, 14,000 asthma attacks, and over 400,000 daily incidents of upper respiratory symptoms among the 33 million people living within 250 miles of the geographic center of the plants.

They found that applying existing emission control technology to the older plants could reduce the annual mortality risk by approximately 200 premature deaths per year, along with 2,000 fewer emergency room visits, 10,000 fewer asthma attacks and 300,000 fewer daily incidents of upper respiratory problems. They also determined that recent fuel switching and emission controls adopted by a subset of the power plants reduced the mortality risk between 1998 and 2000 by 80 premature deaths per year.

Study Details Impact of Pollution on Public Health from Nine Older Fossil Fuel Power Plants in Illinois - January 03, 2001 -2001 Releases - Press Release Archives - Press Releases - Harvard School of Public Health

 

[g5000]

Air pollution from two Massachusetts coal-fired power plants contributes to particulate matter, sulfur dioxide, nitrogen dioxide and ozone exposure over a large region. Using a sophisticated model of how particulate matter and its precursors are dispersed in the atmosphere, Harvard School of Public Health scientists Jonathan Levy and John D. Spengler have calculated exposures to 32 million residents living in New England, eastern New York and New Jersey from these older plants.

Their report estimated that current emissions from the Salem Harbor and Brayton Point power plants can be linked to more than 43,000 asthma attacks and nearly 300,000 incidents of upper respiratory symptoms per year in the region. The study also estimated that 159 premature deaths per year could be attributed to this pollution.

The health risks are greatest for people living closer to the plants. Twenty percent of the total health impact occurs on 8 percent of the population that lives within 30 miles of the facilities.

HSPH Report Quantifies Health Impact of Air Pollution From Two Massachusetts Power Plants - May 04, 2000 -2000 Releases - Press Release Archives - Press Releases - Harvard School of Public Health

 

[Inthemiddle]

We should build more as the cheaper the energy is=more profit to hire more workers=lower unemployment.

When will idiots learn that employers don't hire people just because they are making a profit.

Because unemployment stimulates the economy, right?

If you're not going to say anything relevant to my post, then don't quote me.

 

[Inthemiddle]

We should build more as the cheaper the energy is=more profit to hire more workers=lower unemployment.

When will idiots learn that employers don't hire people just because they are making a profit.

Actually they do. if you're making a good profit, that means the public wants more of your product. That means hiring more workers.

There is a difference between saving money and seeing an increase in demand. But you're too much of an idiot to comprehend that.

 

[Chris]

The Republicans are now pro mercury poisoning.

Why am I not surprised?

 

[Big Fitz]

Using this rule the Obama Administration is in the process of shutting down over 100 coal fired electric generating plants and causing the operating costs of the rest to increase.

Clean Air Mercury Rule | US EPA

Now mind you this is an election year so Kind Obama has ask the EPA to wait till NEXT year to actually close the plants and increase 60 percent of the Countries electric bills.

Awww now a little mercury never hurt anyone.
in my state it is ok to eat one meal of fresh caught fish a month for a healthy adult anyway.

And have it in every lightbulb you own.

 

[konradv]

Using this rule the Obama Administration is in the process of shutting down over 100 coal fired electric generating plants and causing the operating costs of the rest to increase.

Clean Air Mercury Rule | US EPA

Now mind you this is an election year so Kind Obama has ask the EPA to wait till NEXT year to actually close the plants and increase 60 percent of the Countries electric bills.

Awww now a little mercury never hurt anyone.
in my state it is ok to eat one meal of fresh caught fish a month for a healthy adult anyway.

And have it in every lightbulb you own.

Been eating lightbulbs lately?

 

[DaGoose]

Using this rule the Obama Administration is in the process of shutting down over 100 coal fired electric generating plants and causing the operating costs of the rest to increase.

Clean Air Mercury Rule | US EPA

Now mind you this is an election year so Kind Obama has ask the EPA to wait till NEXT year to actually close the plants and increase 60 percent of the Countries electric bills.

Awww now a little mercury never hurt anyone.
in my state it is ok to eat one meal of fresh caught fish a month for a healthy adult anyway.

95% of all the Mercury in the environment comes from natural sources, and 80% of the remainder comes from sources outside of the U.S. So what is cutting back on 1% of the Mercury going to do for the environment? That's a great reason to double the cost of electricity for every man, woman and child in this country.

Hey Professor, I'd sure like to know where you get your information from. Rush Limbaugh?

Natural sources, such as volcanoes, are responsible for approximately half of atmospheric mercury emissions. The human-generated half can be divided into the following estimated percentages:

65% from stationary combustion, of which coal-fired power plants are the largest aggregate source (40% of U.S. mercury emissions in 1999). This includes power plants fueled with gas where the mercury has not been removed. Emissions from coal combustion are between one and two orders of magnitude higher than emissions from oil combustion, depending on the country.

11% from gold production. The three largest point sources for mercury emissions in the U.S. are the three largest gold mines. Hydrogeochemical release of mercury from gold-mine tailings has been accounted as a significant source of atmospheric mercury in eastern Canada.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_(element)

 

[Sunshine]

Where I live, we have clean hydroelectric power.

 

[The T]

Can you imagine this Marxist Macaca cocksucker getting a second term? Imagine the Executive orders he'll put out when he doesn't have to pretend he's an American anymore

Wake Up America​

 

[The T]

We should build more as the cheaper the energy is=more profit to hire more workers=lower unemployment.

When will idiots learn that employers don't hire people just because they are making a profit.

Another idiot that thinks people have companies just to hire people, and government MUST run the show.

YOU know zero of the founding much less true liberty.

Idiot.

 

[DaGoose]

Can you imagine this Marxist Macaca cocksucker getting a second term? Imagine the Executive orders he'll put out when he doesn't have to pretend he's an American anymore

Wake Up America​

Wow. Even though I disagree with what the pictures suggest I must admit I'm impressed that a Con actually would acknowledge the plight of the unemployed.

Does this mean that this time the Neo-Cons won't point their finger at the poor man in the picture and call him an lazy, unemployed, good-for-nothing fuck off?

And say that he's just a drag on society?

That if he simply tried he could get a great job or start his own business?

That there are no poor people unless they want to be poor?

And that we should deprive him of all safety nets since all they do is enable people like the poor person in this picture?

Or that the reason the person in the picture is poor is because he wants to suck the government tit?

When did you change your thinking?

 

[The T]

Can you imagine this Marxist Macaca cocksucker getting a second term? Imagine the Executive orders he'll put out when he doesn't have to pretend he's an American anymore

Wake Up America​

Wow. Even though I disagree with what the pictures suggest I must admit I'm impressed that a Con actually would acknowledge the plight of the unemployed.

Does this mean that this time the Neo-Cons won't point their finger at the poor man in the picture and call him an lazy, unemployed, good-for-nothing fuck off?

And say that he's just a drag on society?

That if he simply tried he could get a great job or start his own business?

That there are no poor people unless they want to be poor?

And that we should deprive him of all safety nets since all they do is enable people like the poor person in this picture?

Or that the reason the person in the picture is poor is because he wants to suck the government tit?

When did you change your thinking?

YOU remain an idiot.

 

[bripat9643]

The Republicans are now pro mercury poisoning.

Why am I not surprised?

We are anti-moron. Hence, your unpopularity.

When you find evidence that anyone has ever been poisoned by mercury from a coal fired power plant, please post it.