CNN commentator calls for the elimination of Israel.

[irosie91]

I have never seen an accidental death or injury case IN COURT---in which the Plaintiff accepted "accident" as the cause

 

[Roudy]

wrong again-----we do not subsidize either health care or education in
Israel

Education in Israel - Wikipedia

"All of Israel's nine public universities, and some of its colleges, are subsidized by the government, and students pay only a small part of the actual cost of tuition.

"Students who completed military service are entitled to a 90% discount on their first-year tuition fees. Further financial assistance is provided by student loans, grants, and scholarships approved by the Ministry of Education.".

yeah so? very much the same as in the USA. By "WE" I was referring to -----WE USA CITIZENS

Are you a citizen of Israel AND the USA?

no. Are you a member of both the democrat party and the Nazi party?
I served in the USA navy and spent lots of time trying to get sailors
about to leave the Navy TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE GI BILL

Thanks for your service

USS Liberty (AGTR-5) - Wikipedia

No no, thank YOU!!

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Culture of Palestine - Wikipedia

"The Culture of Palestine is the culture of the Palestinian people, located across Historic Palestine as well as in the Palestinian diaspora. Palestinian culture is influenced by the many diverse cultures and religions which have existed in historic Palestine, from the early Canaanite period onward.

"Cultural contributions to the fields of art, literature, music, costume and cuisine express the Palestinian identity despite the geographical separation between the Palestinian territories, Palestinian citizens and the diaspora."

Your own Wikipedia link makes Swiss cheese out of your claims.

Jewish culture in Palestine.

"The King David Hotel bombing was a terrorist attack[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8] carried out on Monday, July 22, 1946, by the militant right-wing[9] Zionist underground organization the Irgun on the British administrative headquarters for Palestine, which was housed in the southern wing[10] of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem.[11][12][13]

"91 people of various nationalities were killed, and 46 were injured.[14]"
King David Hotel bombing - Wikipedia

They bombed the British military HQ to gain independence, not your beloved Arabs. You realize that the name "Palestinian" meant "Jew", prior to 1947. Palestinian is an invented identity the Arabs hijacked.

Palestine predates Judaism by more than a million years.

History of Palestine - Wikipedia

"The earliest human remains in Palestine were found in Ubeidiya, some 3 km south of the Sea of Galilee (Lake Tiberias), in the Jordan Rift Valley.

"The remains are dated to the Pleistocene, c. 1.5 million years ago.

"These are traces of the earliest migration of Homo erectus out of Africa. The site yielded hand axes of the Acheulean type.[12]

"Wadi El Amud between Safed and the Sea of Galilee was the site of the first prehistoric dig in Palestine, in 1925.

"The discovery of Palestine Man in the Zuttiyeh Cave in Wadi Al-Amud near Safed in 1925 provided some clues to human development in the area."

Ha ha ha! "Palestine predates Israel more than a million years"! With retards like you as supporters, is there any wonder why the so called Palestinians are where they are today?

Unless "Palestine" was scribbled on the cave wall next to a hand print, that near-animal wasn't a Palestinian.

 

[georgephillip]

right----I was navy----and because of the profession which afforded me
a commission I got to know about all sorts of accidents at sea------
we lose sailors even during peace time because of mistakes.
In military training----In arenas of war "friendly fire" is rampant

Georgie thinks friendly fire is "funny"------the number of people we lose to friendly fire in actual battles is VERY TRAGIC

As you know very well, there was no friendly fire involved in Israel's deliberate attack on the USS Liberty.

USS Liberty Memorial

"The Attack

"After surveilling USS Liberty for more than nine hours with almost hourly aircraft overflights and radar tracking, the air and naval forces of Israel attacked our ship in international waters without warning.

"USS Liberty was identified as a US naval ship by Israeli reconnaissance aircraft nine hours before the attack and continuously tracked by Israeli radar and aircraft thereafter.

"Sailing in international waters at less than five knots, with no offensive armament, our ship was not a military threat to anyone.

"The Israeli forces attacked without warning and without attempting to contact us. Thirty four Americans were killed in the attack and another 174 were wounded. The ship, a $40-million dollar state-of-the-art signals intelligence platform, was later declared unsalvageable and sold for scrap."

Now convince me you know more about what happened regarding this matter than every US eyewitness to the cold-blooded assault.

In my time as an officer in the US navy------I dealt with lots of ON THE
JOB INJURY-------the injured parties ALWAYS lay blame----it's human
nature. You are quoting the writings of a person who WAS ON THE
SHIP ---------and was part of a LAW SUIT (have you ever been in court?)

I'm quoting those who were eyewitnesses to Israel's deliberate attempt to murder them.

Why are you doubting their veracity?

USS Liberty Memorial

"In an ongoing effort to reveal the truth about the attack, the USS Liberty Veterans Association has filed with the Secretary of the Army in the manner prescribed by law a detailed, fully documented Report of War Crimes describing the circumstances of the attack on our ship and evidence that it was a crime under international law.

"In accordance with international law and treaties, the United States is obligated to investigate the allegations. So far, the United States has declined even to acknowledge that the report has been filed. The full text of the report can be found at http://www.gtr5.com/evidence/warcrimes.pdf ."

"VERACITY" ? I have reviewed SCORES of cases of injury----well maybe hundreds. In ALL cases when there is a LAWSUIT ---the putitive
"victims" "KNOW" that they were "DELIBERATELY ATTACKED (ps---I have also served as an expert witness in personal injury cases in court---civilian-------besides my role---active duty navy.) People do not LIKE to accept the idea that "no body should be blamed"

Who gets the blame for the actions of IDF torpedo boat crews during Israel's deliberate attack on the USS Liberty?

USS Liberty Memorial: Summary of Events

"After the Israeli fighter aircraft completed their attacks, three Israeli torpedo boats arrived and began a surface attack about 35 minutes after the start of the air attack.

"The torpedo boats launched a total of five torpedoes, one of which struck the side of USS Liberty, opposite the ship's research spaces. [20]

"Twenty-six Americans in addition to the eight who had been killed in the earlier air attacks, were killed as a result of this explosion.

"Following their torpedo attack, the torpedo boats moved up and down the length of the ship (both the port and starboard sides), continuing their attack, raking the ship with cannon and machine gun fire.[21]

"In Malta, crewmen were later assigned the task of counting all of the holes in the ship that were the size of a man's hand or larger.

"They found a total of 861 such holes, in addition to 'thousands' of .50 caliber machine gun holes.

"Survivors report that the torpedo boat crews swept the decks of USS Liberty with continuous machine gun fire, targeting communications equipment and any crew members who ventured above decks.[22]

"Damage control firefighters, who had already risked their lives merely by appearing on deck, had to abandon their efforts because their fire hoses had been shredded by machine gun fire.[23]

"Survivors also report that the torpedo boat crews fired on the inflated life boats launched by the crew after the captain gave the order 'prepare to abandon ship.'[24]

"This order had to be rescinded because the crew was unable to stand on the main deck without being fired upon and the life rafts were destroyed as they were launched."

 

[irosie91]

Georgie thinks friendly fire is "funny"------the number of people we lose to friendly fire in actual battles is VERY TRAGIC

As you know very well, there was no friendly fire involved in Israel's deliberate attack on the USS Liberty.

USS Liberty Memorial

"The Attack

"After surveilling USS Liberty for more than nine hours with almost hourly aircraft overflights and radar tracking, the air and naval forces of Israel attacked our ship in international waters without warning.

"USS Liberty was identified as a US naval ship by Israeli reconnaissance aircraft nine hours before the attack and continuously tracked by Israeli radar and aircraft thereafter.

"Sailing in international waters at less than five knots, with no offensive armament, our ship was not a military threat to anyone.

"The Israeli forces attacked without warning and without attempting to contact us. Thirty four Americans were killed in the attack and another 174 were wounded. The ship, a $40-million dollar state-of-the-art signals intelligence platform, was later declared unsalvageable and sold for scrap."

Now convince me you know more about what happened regarding this matter than every US eyewitness to the cold-blooded assault.

In my time as an officer in the US navy------I dealt with lots of ON THE
JOB INJURY-------the injured parties ALWAYS lay blame----it's human
nature. You are quoting the writings of a person who WAS ON THE
SHIP ---------and was part of a LAW SUIT (have you ever been in court?)

I'm quoting those who were eyewitnesses to Israel's deliberate attempt to murder them.

Why are you doubting their veracity?

USS Liberty Memorial

"In an ongoing effort to reveal the truth about the attack, the USS Liberty Veterans Association has filed with the Secretary of the Army in the manner prescribed by law a detailed, fully documented Report of War Crimes describing the circumstances of the attack on our ship and evidence that it was a crime under international law.

"In accordance with international law and treaties, the United States is obligated to investigate the allegations. So far, the United States has declined even to acknowledge that the report has been filed. The full text of the report can be found at http://www.gtr5.com/evidence/warcrimes.pdf ."

"VERACITY" ? I have reviewed SCORES of cases of injury----well maybe hundreds. In ALL cases when there is a LAWSUIT ---the putitive
"victims" "KNOW" that they were "DELIBERATELY ATTACKED (ps---I have also served as an expert witness in personal injury cases in court---civilian-------besides my role---active duty navy.) People do not LIKE to accept the idea that "no body should be blamed"

Who gets the blame for the actions of IDF torpedo boat crews during Israel's deliberate attack on the USS Liberty?

USS Liberty Memorial: Summary of Events

"After the Israeli fighter aircraft completed their attacks, three Israeli torpedo boats arrived and began a surface attack about 35 minutes after the start of the air attack.

"The torpedo boats launched a total of five torpedoes, one of which struck the side of USS Liberty, opposite the ship's research spaces. [20]

"Twenty-six Americans in addition to the eight who had been killed in the earlier air attacks, were killed as a result of this explosion.

"Following their torpedo attack, the torpedo boats moved up and down the length of the ship (both the port and starboard sides), continuing their attack, raking the ship with cannon and machine gun fire.[21]

"In Malta, crewmen were later assigned the task of counting all of the holes in the ship that were the size of a man's hand or larger.

"They found a total of 861 such holes, in addition to 'thousands' of .50 caliber machine gun holes.

"Survivors report that the torpedo boat crews swept the decks of USS Liberty with continuous machine gun fire, targeting communications equipment and any crew members who ventured above decks.[22]

"Damage control firefighters, who had already risked their lives merely by appearing on deck, had to abandon their efforts because their fire hoses had been shredded by machine gun fire.[23]

"Survivors also report that the torpedo boat crews fired on the inflated life boats launched by the crew after the captain gave the order 'prepare to abandon ship.'[24]

"This order had to be rescinded because the crew was unable to stand on the main deck without being fired upon and the life rafts were destroyed as they were launched."

so? how many times in your life have you interviewed people who
are in the course of SUING for personal damage?. You left out lots of
details. Some idiot arranged to put a USA ship in an arena of war without
notification. My navy made a mistake

 

[airplanemechanic]

Hill lost his job over this.

Good riddance to the loud fast talking negro.

 

[irosie91]

Hill lost his job over this.

Good riddance to the loud fast talking negro.

^^^^
no good. -------leave out race-----you failed to note that
he is a spiffy dresser

 

[airplanemechanic]

Hill lost his job over this.

Good riddance to the loud fast talking negro.

^^^^
no good. -------leave out race-----you failed to note that
he is a spiffy dresser

He acts like a negro so I call him a negro.

On CNN, Marc Lamont Hill Slams 'Racist' Bill Maher for Views on Islam

He's a loud mouth fast talking negro who loves Islam. Fuck him.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Every US survivor of that deliberate assault believes Israel's actions were not accidental.

So what? That's still their opinion, and it is trumped by the facts. Sorry.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He acts like a negro so I call him a negro.

And you act like a racist, so I will call you a racist. Deal?

 

[georgephillip]

Every US survivor of that deliberate assault believes Israel's actions were not accidental.

So what? That's still their opinion, and it is trumped by the facts. Sorry.

Don't be sorry;

produce your "facts"

See if you can find any that contradict the accounts of eyewitnesses like James M. Ennes, Jr.

The Assault on the USS Liberty Still Covered Up After 26 Years – 1993 June - WRMEA

"Twenty-six years have passed since that clear day on June 8, 1967 when Israel attacked the USS Liberty with aircraft and torpedo boats, killing 34 young men and wounding 171.

"The attack in international waters followed over nine hours of close surveillance. Israeli pilots circled the ship at low level 13 times on eight different occasions before attacking.

"Radio operators in Spain, Lebanon, Germany and aboard the ship itself all heard the pilots reporting to their headquarters that this was an American ship.

"They attacked anyway.

"And when the ship failed to sink, the Israeli government concocted an elaborate story to cover the crime...."

"Fifteen years after the attack, an Israeli pilot approached Liberty survivors and then held extensive interviews with former Congressman Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey about his role.

"According to this senior Israeli lead pilot, he recognized the Liberty as American immediately, so informed his headquarters, and was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack.

"He refused to do so and returned to base, where he was arrested."

 

[georgephillip]

You left out lots of
details. Some idiot arranged to put a USA ship in an arena of war without
notification. My navy made a mistake

Liberty was in international waters.
Why did your Israel decide that was unacceptable?
"USS Liberty: Did Israel commit one war crime to hide another?
By James M. Ennes, Jr.,
The Washington Post Report on Middle East Affairs, May/June 1996"

James M. Ennes, Jr., USS Liberty: Did Israel commit one war crime to hide another?

 

[fncceo]

Rule 4,372 of online discussion.

Any discussion of Israel will eventually lead to Jewish conspiracy theories.

 

[Indeependent]

Every US survivor of that deliberate assault believes Israel's actions were not accidental.

So what? That's still their opinion, and it is trumped by the facts. Sorry.

Don't be sorry;

produce your "facts"

See if you can find any that contradict the accounts of eyewitnesses like James M. Ennes, Jr.

The Assault on the USS Liberty Still Covered Up After 26 Years – 1993 June - WRMEA

"Twenty-six years have passed since that clear day on June 8, 1967 when Israel attacked the USS Liberty with aircraft and torpedo boats, killing 34 young men and wounding 171.

"The attack in international waters followed over nine hours of close surveillance. Israeli pilots circled the ship at low level 13 times on eight different occasions before attacking.

"Radio operators in Spain, Lebanon, Germany and aboard the ship itself all heard the pilots reporting to their headquarters that this was an American ship.

"They attacked anyway.

"And when the ship failed to sink, the Israeli government concocted an elaborate story to cover the crime...."

"Fifteen years after the attack, an Israeli pilot approached Liberty survivors and then held extensive interviews with former Congressman Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey about his role.

"According to this senior Israeli lead pilot, he recognized the Liberty as American immediately, so informed his headquarters, and was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack.

"He refused to do so and returned to base, where he was arrested."

Any other eyewitnesses?

 

[Indeependent]

You left out lots of
details. Some idiot arranged to put a USA ship in an arena of war without
notification. My navy made a mistake

Liberty was in international waters.
Why did your Israel decide that was unacceptable?

To annoy you.

 

[georgephillip]

Every US survivor of that deliberate assault believes Israel's actions were not accidental.

So what? That's still their opinion, and it is trumped by the facts. Sorry.

Don't be sorry;

produce your "facts"

See if you can find any that contradict the accounts of eyewitnesses like James M. Ennes, Jr.

The Assault on the USS Liberty Still Covered Up After 26 Years – 1993 June - WRMEA

"Twenty-six years have passed since that clear day on June 8, 1967 when Israel attacked the USS Liberty with aircraft and torpedo boats, killing 34 young men and wounding 171.

"The attack in international waters followed over nine hours of close surveillance. Israeli pilots circled the ship at low level 13 times on eight different occasions before attacking.

"Radio operators in Spain, Lebanon, Germany and aboard the ship itself all heard the pilots reporting to their headquarters that this was an American ship.

"They attacked anyway.

"And when the ship failed to sink, the Israeli government concocted an elaborate story to cover the crime...."

"Fifteen years after the attack, an Israeli pilot approached Liberty survivors and then held extensive interviews with former Congressman Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey about his role.

"According to this senior Israeli lead pilot, he recognized the Liberty as American immediately, so informed his headquarters, and was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack.

"He refused to do so and returned to base, where he was arrested."

Any other eyewitnesses?

Every US survivor aboard Liberty believed the attack was deliberate. Many others believe similarly:

The Assault on the USS Liberty Still Covered Up After 26 Years – 1993 June - WRMEA

"The (IDF) pilot's protests also were heard by radio monitors in the U.S. Embassy in Lebanon.

"Then-U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon Dwight Porter has confirmed this. Porter told his story to syndicated columnists Rowland Evans and Robert Novak and offered to submit to further questioning by authorities.

"Unfortunately, no one in the U.S. government has any interest in hearing these first-person accounts of Israeli treachery.

"Key members of the Lyndon Johnson administration have long agreed that this attack was no accident.

"Perhaps most outspoken is former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Thomas Moorer. 'I can never accept the claim that this was a mistaken attack,' he insists."

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Don't be sorry;

produce your "facts"

Nah, thats okay. I feel no compulsion whatsoever, to debate this nonsense, nor do I suffer any delusion that any amount of facts would dislodge you from this idiotic position.

 

[Indeependent]

Every US survivor of that deliberate assault believes Israel's actions were not accidental.

So what? That's still their opinion, and it is trumped by the facts. Sorry.

Don't be sorry;

produce your "facts"

See if you can find any that contradict the accounts of eyewitnesses like James M. Ennes, Jr.

The Assault on the USS Liberty Still Covered Up After 26 Years – 1993 June - WRMEA

"Twenty-six years have passed since that clear day on June 8, 1967 when Israel attacked the USS Liberty with aircraft and torpedo boats, killing 34 young men and wounding 171.

"The attack in international waters followed over nine hours of close surveillance. Israeli pilots circled the ship at low level 13 times on eight different occasions before attacking.

"Radio operators in Spain, Lebanon, Germany and aboard the ship itself all heard the pilots reporting to their headquarters that this was an American ship.

"They attacked anyway.

"And when the ship failed to sink, the Israeli government concocted an elaborate story to cover the crime...."

"Fifteen years after the attack, an Israeli pilot approached Liberty survivors and then held extensive interviews with former Congressman Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey about his role.

"According to this senior Israeli lead pilot, he recognized the Liberty as American immediately, so informed his headquarters, and was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack.

"He refused to do so and returned to base, where he was arrested."

Any other eyewitnesses?

Every US survivor aboard Liberty believed the attack was deliberate. Many others believe similarly:

The Assault on the USS Liberty Still Covered Up After 26 Years – 1993 June - WRMEA

"The (IDF) pilot's protests also were heard by radio monitors in the U.S. Embassy in Lebanon.

"Then-U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon Dwight Porter has confirmed this. Porter told his story to syndicated columnists Rowland Evans and Robert Novak and offered to submit to further questioning by authorities.

"Unfortunately, no one in the U.S. government has any interest in hearing these first-person accounts of Israeli treachery.

"Key members of the Lyndon Johnson administration have long agreed that this attack was no accident.

"Perhaps most outspoken is former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Thomas Moorer. 'I can never accept the claim that this was a mistaken attack,' he insists."

It’s the human condition.
Anyone who is attacked feels it’s malicious.

 

[georgephillip]

Every US survivor of that deliberate assault believes Israel's actions were not accidental.

So what? That's still their opinion, and it is trumped by the facts. Sorry.

Don't be sorry;

produce your "facts"

See if you can find any that contradict the accounts of eyewitnesses like James M. Ennes, Jr.

The Assault on the USS Liberty Still Covered Up After 26 Years – 1993 June - WRMEA

"Twenty-six years have passed since that clear day on June 8, 1967 when Israel attacked the USS Liberty with aircraft and torpedo boats, killing 34 young men and wounding 171.

"The attack in international waters followed over nine hours of close surveillance. Israeli pilots circled the ship at low level 13 times on eight different occasions before attacking.

"Radio operators in Spain, Lebanon, Germany and aboard the ship itself all heard the pilots reporting to their headquarters that this was an American ship.

"They attacked anyway.

"And when the ship failed to sink, the Israeli government concocted an elaborate story to cover the crime...."

"Fifteen years after the attack, an Israeli pilot approached Liberty survivors and then held extensive interviews with former Congressman Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey about his role.

"According to this senior Israeli lead pilot, he recognized the Liberty as American immediately, so informed his headquarters, and was told to ignore the American flag and continue his attack.

"He refused to do so and returned to base, where he was arrested."

Any other eyewitnesses?

Every US survivor aboard Liberty believed the attack was deliberate. Many others believe similarly:

The Assault on the USS Liberty Still Covered Up After 26 Years – 1993 June - WRMEA

"The (IDF) pilot's protests also were heard by radio monitors in the U.S. Embassy in Lebanon.

"Then-U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon Dwight Porter has confirmed this. Porter told his story to syndicated columnists Rowland Evans and Robert Novak and offered to submit to further questioning by authorities.

"Unfortunately, no one in the U.S. government has any interest in hearing these first-person accounts of Israeli treachery.

"Key members of the Lyndon Johnson administration have long agreed that this attack was no accident.

"Perhaps most outspoken is former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Thomas Moorer. 'I can never accept the claim that this was a mistaken attack,' he insists."

It’s the human condition.
Anyone who is attacked feels it’s malicious.

"ma·li·cious
/məˈliSHəs/
adjective

1. characterized by malice; intending or intended to do harm.
   'malicious destruction of property'
   synonyms: spiteful, malevolent, evil-intentioned, vindictive, vengeful, malign, mean, nasty, hurtful, mischievous, wounding, cruel, unkind; More

Are you aware the captain of the Liberty (who was seriously wounded during the malicious assault and earned a medal of honor for his actions) had to rescind his order to abandon ship because his crew could not stand on deck due to 50 caliber machine gun fire from multiple IDF torpedo boats, and the orange life rafts the crew had tossed overboard were strafed and sunk by the same murderous, unprovoked 90 minute attack?

William McGonagle - Wikipedia

 

[MacTheKnife]

Why You Shouldn't Pay Attention to the Claims that Israel Attacked the USS Liberty Deliberately


Tom Segev, an Israeli historian, author and journalist. He is associated with Israel's New Historians, a group challenging many of the country's traditional narratives


Segev said in an equally interesting 2012 article, also came out against the various theories. “None of the four people who could have ordered an attack on an American ship - Prime Minister Levi Eshkol, Mossad chief Meir Amit, Defense Minister Moshe Dayan and Chief of Staff Yitzhak Rabin - was daring and crazy to that extent,”

The lie that will not die...................The Lie that Won’t Die: the USS Liberty Attack Slander, Continued