'Christian Militants Might Bring Down The Country’

[geauxtohell]

Now, show me a single report of Christians dancing in the streets after the OKC Bombing.

snopes.com: Palestinians Dancing in the Streets after 9/11
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What about 9-11?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NssVbwlTdU]YouTube - ‪Shirley Phelps on 911 and the Pope, NYC 4/20/2008‬‏[/ame]

Let me guess, they aren't "real" Christians.

 

[frazzledgear]

When I try to reconcile conservative ideology with the teachings of Christ, I can only wonder how the man who gave out the loaves and fishes to the multitude by the Sea of Galilee would not be branded a “liberal” today.

Really? You SERIOUSLY believe Jesus would be a modern liberal? Sorry but you are not only a moron, you have zero understanding of Christianity and don't have a CLUE what were actually the teachings of Christ!

Let's get the social issues out of the way first:

Do you see Jesus standing on the steps of the Supreme Court building every anniversary of Roe v. Wade holding up a sign defending a woman's "right" to kill her unwanted offspring? Do you really believe Jesus would support embryonic stem cell research -creating new human life in order to CANNIBALIZE it so an OLDER human life can benefit? REALLY?

Do you believe Jesus, who said any man who divorces his wife and marries another is guilty of adultery -would be among those pushing a gay activist political agenda including bastardizing the definition of marriage to mean "any two people who want to call their relationship a "marriage"? (And why limit it to two people anyway? That is just discriminating against everyone else who is left out now. If three or four people all choose to love each other, what business is it of government to say they can't call their relationship a marriage and demand government recognize it as such? And if who someone CHOOSES to love determines whether they are an eligible marriage partner or not, then what about those who claim to love an animal? Any reason they should be prevented from having their bestial relationship called a "marriage" too? Who is it really hurting and if Joe wants to marry Bessie the cow, so what? What about consensual adult incest -what right does government have to insist that relationship can't be called a marriage if they want to get married too? If marriage is supposed to be defined by who you CHOOSE to love as gays now insist -then how many, the biological relationship and the species of who you CHOOSE to love should be IRRELEVANT and none of government's business either -and I'm sure if Jesus were demanding government recognize the relationship between two consenting adults of the same sex as a "marriage", He would be right there on the rest of them as well. LOL.)

Do you believe Jesus was just kidding when He said the Ten Commandments as given to Moses were God's immutable law? Do you know what immutable means? If you accept that Jesus was not joking when He said that, then how can you seriously argue Jesus would TODAY have a different opinion and agree with liberals that some of them just don't matter to God after all and may safely be ignored and was just God's Big Joke on us all? You see Jesus insisting government must allow perverts to print and sell pornographic images of children being raped and sexually exploited by adults because the very real looking pictures were made on a computer? Think Jesus would be a proponent of lifelong government handouts to able bodied adults? Do you see Jesus demonstrating and throwing bottles at cops because the governor of a state signed a bill into law allowing cops to actually enforce a federal law? Jesus used a whip on moneychangers defiling the house of God (but apparently you think He would not today?) but He never attacked others because some ruler made up a new law. Do you think Jesus would insist that unlike all other countries THIS one has no right to demand people enter legally and must allow the massive invasion of foreigners and our citizens must shut up about it and in fact must bend over backwards to accommodate THEM, including changing OUR culture and adopt THEIR language! Ruth could have taken a lesson from THAT thinking, huh. Jesus said when slapped (an insult) to turn the other cheek rather than lower oneself to respond in kind -but never insisted the same held true when facing a physical threat to life or limb -or that of others.

Do you REALLY believe Jesus would agree with today's liberals about the proper role of religion and one's beliefs when it comes to public schools, government, the laws we choose to be governed by and society at large? You must be under the delusion that Jesus was a social radical or something -but He was not. He was a SPIRITUAL radical which is why He repeatedly reminded people that THIS life is a fleeting one, that one's misery and pain here are but temporary and our focus should be elsewhere than the here and now! Liberals are ENTIRELY about the here and now and immediate gratification. What is "good" is defined only by whether THEY personally like it or not -not by what is actually in the best long term interests of an entire nation.

Let's move on to systems of government because obviously Jesus would NOT be a social liberal -so you must mean He would be one with regard to government, right? That Jesus would be right there with liberals about the preferred system of government and government's proper role? Is Jesus some kind of Robin Hood figure in your mind? Did Jesus spend His time telling GOVERNMENTS what they should be doing and pushing people to demand a particular system? He could have been pushing the liberal's favorite system of government at the same time He could have insisted marriage in the eyes of God was any two people who chose to love each other, right? Do you think Jesus would say as long as the thief turns around and does something nice with your money, it is not only ok for the thief to ignore God's commandment regarding that but I, as a Christian should stop squealing about being robbed?

Do you really believe Jesus would be a socialist? I've heard several liberals intent on bastardizing Christianity for their own political agenda insist Jesus would be a socialist. And then have the balls to turn around and insist that unless Christians agree with THEIR interpretation of a religion they actually despise, mock and ridicule at every turn -then Christians aren't "real" Christians at all and aren't even practicing Christianity at all. REALLY?

But that is a massive lie. Christianity is about the INDIVIDUAL'S relationship with God and the responsibilities and obligations of the INDIVIDUAL as a Christian -and as a Christian, he is urged to voluntarily GIVE of himself.

The LIE liberals are promoting in their two prong attack to destroy the religion itself is the EVIL notion that government can be your proxy in the eyes of God. Unless God accepts GOVERNMENT as your proxy in His eyes, how on earth could you even suggest Jesus would support such a thing as the forcible redistribution of wealth and have government just TAKE it from those who created and earned it and give it to those who didn't? Except there is no proxy for me in God's eyes. Government TAKING from me against my will is theft -and Jesus never once said we must allow people and institutions to rob us blind -not even if they insist I must stop resisting that theft because THEY are actually going to put my money to better use than I possibly could anyway. And hey, God would LIKE that, right? ROFLMAO! It is nothing but SHEER ARROGANCE to insist Jesus would agree that whatever government deems to be "good" is also good in the eyes of God. Are you for real?

How can you possibly reconcile TRUE Christians principles based on the INDIVIDUAL'S relationship with God with a system of government that forcibly TAKES from some in order to give it to those who neither own it nor earned it? Socialism and communism are INCOMPATIBLE with the TRUE fundamental principles of Christianity -Karl Marx knew it and so has every committed socialist which is why they took on a two pronged attack against Christianity of trying to marginalize Christians through mockery, ridicule and smears -and now by also trying to lay claim to Jesus as "one of their own". Even as they totally reject everything Jesus REALLY said and REALLY taught and still revile both the religion and its practitioners. Using the power of government to TAKE from someone in order to turn around and give it to someone else is no Christian principle honey. No extra brownie points to heaven for living under a particular system of government and government can never be anyone's proxy in the eyes of God. NOT EVER. Which means whatever "good" government insists it will do with MY money means NOTHING to God and is NOT a "good"!

The notion Christianity is compatible with socialism and Christians should support a system based on the redistribution of the wealth can only work if you can convince people to totally abandon the true principles of Christianity which is ENTIRELY based on what the individual personally and voluntarily GIVES of himself -not what his government does and not what his government TAKES from him.

But if you have really convinced yourself that Jesus would be right there agreeing with you that a large, powerful government with great control of the individual and redistributes the wealth because it is GOOD for them and the end result counts for more than the method used to get there -then by that identical thinking Jesus would also support forced conversions as well. After all, the immortal soul is FAR more important than our temporary existence here on earth -so surely THAT would matter FAR more to Jesus, right? Oh what's that? You GET it when it comes to forced conversions and why Christians reject that. You just don't get why they also reject using the power of government to forcibly take what one person has created and earned and hand it to someone who didn't and refuse to call that "good"! Are you kidding?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Really? You SERIOUSLY believe Jesus would be a modern liberal…

Well, most theologians do agree that RyanCare makes baby Jesus cry.

 

[daveman]

No, but by the time they figure that out it will be too late!

"No! No! Don't cut my head off -- I defended you on the interne --"

THUNK!!

(That post needed a beheaded emoticon)

 

[JakeStarkey]

nothing here worth repeating

The Bible is very clear that Christian culture is social and communal, that the individual serves Jesus by serving others, as He said. The Savior died forso others may live is the best example. In a nation based on Judeo-Christian and Greco-Roman principles, the role of our government is to help those who can't help themselves. If Jesus were to come today and see Michelle Bachman's world, He would sigh and tell someone "I will be down at the Garden. Tell the Police Chief. We will have to do this all over again."

Then I get negged by a weak soul Freaks, you are not mainstream, and you will not get your way, period. Anyway, Allie, have a great time with your family, and think about Jesus while you are at it.

 

[Jack Fate]

nothing here worth repeating

The Bible is very clear that Christian culture is social and communal, that the individual serves Jesus by serving others, as He said. The Savior died forso others may live is the best example. In a nation based on Judeo-Christian and Greco-Roman principles, the role of our government is to help those who can't help themselves.

If Jesus were to come today and see Michelle Bachman's world, He would sigh and tell someone "I will be down at the Garden. Tell the Police Chief. We will have to do this all over again."

Anyone ever notice how liberals love Jesus and want to follow him when they want bigger government, but then mock Christians when the Christians exercise their constitutional rights.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Who, conservative or liberal or centrist, is mocking you for exercising your right, Jack Fate? You have every right to act like a doofus as long as you don't hurt anyone. No one mocks your exercise, only your silliness.

 

[AllieBaba]

nothing here worth repeating

The Bible is very clear that Christian culture is social and communal, that the individual serves Jesus by serving others, as He said. The Savior died forso others may live is the best example. In a nation based on Judeo-Christian and Greco-Roman principles, the role of our government is to help those who can't help themselves.

If Jesus were to come today and see Michelle Bachman's world, He would sigh and tell someone "I will be down at the Garden. Tell the Police Chief. We will have to do this all over again."

 

[JakeStarkey]

nothing here worth repeating

The Bible is very clear that Christian culture is social and communal, that the individual serves Jesus by serving others, as He said. The Savior died forso others may live is the best example. In a nation based on Judeo-Christian and Greco-Roman principles, the role of our government is to help those who can't help themselves.

If Jesus were to come today and see Michelle Bachman's world, He would sigh and tell someone "I will be down at the Garden. Tell the Police Chief. We will have to do this all over again."

Then I get negged by a weak soul Freaks, you are not mainstream, and you will not get your way, period. Anyway, Allie, have a great time with your family, and think about Jesus while you are at it.

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

The so-called "religious right" composed of Christian fundamentalists (evangelical fanatics) and extremists, have hijacked the Republican party. They are not Christians, but the worst kind of political subversives. They are unethical and intellectually dishonest, their professed beliefs a perversion of Christ’s teachings, and their practices a corruption of the most basic tenets of Christian faith. They are, in short, pious frauds; they are anathema. It is they - not the Muslim terrorists - that pose the greatest threat to American democracy. They will be their own undoing; for it is they who have pushed the Republicans far from their traditional conservative values in order to impose their own radical agenda on the nation and the world. They shall succeed only in alienating true conservatives and causing a rift in the Republican party; which, ultimately, shall result in their political downfall.

Truth... finally. thank you.

*sigh*
Question. Did you two graduate from the Goebbels School of Journalism? I mean, way to take what a very small group of extremists, extrapolate any real damage they may have done and condemn a larger group because of it.
You do realize the same can be and is said concerning the effect the far left socialists have had on the Dems, right?
Go back and read your own tripe then ask yourself why this country is being polarized, obviously it's not the moderates, a group neither of you seem to belong to.

Precisely! Good post.






Indeed, so now granny the evangelist who faithfully attends church services, tithes and volunteers her time to knit sweaters for the poor is a threat to liberty, the Constitution. She's a terrorist no less. Ooh. She might oppose abortion. ("The babies, the little babies.") Evil witch. She might advocate for school choice. Oh, the humanity! She might oppose gay marriage. The depravity!

Friggin' bitch. Get a rope.

 

[Sunshine]

The so-called "religious right" composed of Christian fundamentalists (evangelical fanatics) and extremists, have hijacked the Republican party. They are not Christians, but the worst kind of political subversives. They are unethical and intellectually dishonest, their professed beliefs a perversion of Christ’s teachings, and their practices a corruption of the most basic tenets of Christian faith. They are, in short, pious frauds; they are anathema. It is they - not the Muslim terrorists - that pose the greatest threat to American democracy. They will be their own undoing; for it is they who have pushed the Republicans far from their traditional conservative values in order to impose their own radical agenda on the nation and the world. They shall succeed only in alienating true conservatives and causing a rift in the Republican party; which, ultimately, shall result in their political downfall.

OK, so who hijacked the Democratic party? It isn't the same party I joined 45 years ago. It isn't the same party that helped create JOBS for my parents who lost everything in the Great Depression. The Democratic party seems to be about nothing but handouts and entitlements. Where will we be when they have given it ALL away?

Now I'm not one of those who thinks the wealthy need my help like many people who post on forums. Butn also do not believe giving handouts to people who are able to work is a good thing. I do believe that generational poverty has been allowed and encouraged all over this great land. There is now a big yawning toothy mouth poised ready to bite us in the collective ass for such waste and corruption.

 

[Harry Dresden]

The so-called "religious right" composed of Christian fundamentalists (evangelical fanatics) and extremists, have hijacked the Republican party. They are not Christians, but the worst kind of political subversives. They are unethical and intellectually dishonest, their professed beliefs a perversion of Christ’s teachings, and their practices a corruption of the most basic tenets of Christian faith. They are, in short, pious frauds; they are anathema. It is they - not the Muslim terrorists - that pose the greatest threat to American democracy. They will be their own undoing; for it is they who have pushed the Republicans far from their traditional conservative values in order to impose their own radical agenda on the nation and the world. They shall succeed only in alienating true conservatives and causing a rift in the Republican party; which, ultimately, shall result in their political downfall.

OK, so who hijacked the Democratic party? It isn't the same party I joined 45 years ago. It isn't the same party that helped create JOBS for my parents who lost everything in the Great Depression. The Democratic party seems to be about nothing but handouts and entitlements. Where will we be when they have given it ALL away?

Now I'm not one of those who thinks the wealthy need my help like many people who post on forums. Butn also do not believe giving handouts to people who are able to work is a good thing. I do believe that generational poverty has been allowed and encouraged all over this great land. There is now a big yawning toothy mouth poised ready to bite us in the collective ass for such waste and corruption.

the FAR Left.....

 

[JakeStarkey]

Truth... finally. thank you.

*sigh*
Question. Did you two graduate from the Goebbels School of Journalism? I mean, way to take what a very small group of extremists, extrapolate any real damage they may have done and condemn a larger group because of it.
You do realize the same can be and is said concerning the effect the far left socialists have had on the Dems, right?
Go back and read your own tripe then ask yourself why this country is being polarized, obviously it's not the moderates, a group neither of you seem to belong to.

buncha crap

ever'body has the right to opinion but if you don't got the votes. you still gotta get along. Goebbels, by the by, would have been impressed with your approach. It's called demogoguery.

 

[Jack Fate]

*sigh*
Question. Did you two graduate from the Goebbels School of Journalism? I mean, way to take what a very small group of extremists, extrapolate any real damage they may have done and condemn a larger group because of it.
You do realize the same can be and is said concerning the effect the far left socialists have had on the Dems, right?
Go back and read your own tripe then ask yourself why this country is being polarized, obviously it's not the moderates, a group neither of you seem to belong to.

buncha crap

ever'body has the right to opinion but if you don't got the votes. you still gotta get along. Goebbels, by the by, would have been impressed with your approach. It's called demogoguery.

What do you call this?
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZEGsnWZKh8]YouTube - ‪Hamas Mickey Mouse speaks of Islamic supremacy‬‏[/ame]

 

[JakeStarkey]

America has religious militant extremists from wack Muslims to wack Christians. None of them are welcome.

 

[AllieBaba]

Bullshit. The pretense that there are just as many, just as dangerous, American Christian militants as Muslim ones is a LIE.

 

[High_Gravity]

Bullshit. The pretense that there are just as many, just as dangerous, American Christian militants as Muslim ones is a LIE.

Damn right, when is the last time Christian Militants attacked a US Embassy overseas? whens the last time Christian Militants beheaded an innocent civilian and posted the footage online? when is the last time Christian Militants stormed a school and killed innocent school children? when is the last time Christian Militants stormed a hotel like in Mumbai and Kabul and started killing people?

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

*sigh*
Question. Did you two graduate from the Goebbels School of Journalism? I mean, way to take what a very small group of extremists, extrapolate any real damage they may have done and condemn a larger group because of it.
You do realize the same can be and is said concerning the effect the far left socialists have had on the Dems, right?
Go back and read your own tripe then ask yourself why this country is being polarized, obviously it's not the moderates, a group neither of you seem to belong to.

buncha crap

ever'body has the right to opinion but if you don't got the votes. you still gotta get along. Goebbels, by the by, would have been impressed with your approach. It's called demogoguery.

Actually, I didn't write "buncha crap". I wrote:

Indeed, so now granny the evangelist who faithfully attends church services, tithes and volunteers her time to knit sweaters for the poor is a threat to liberty, the Constitution. She's a terrorist no less. Ooh. She might oppose abortion. ("The babies, the little babies.") Evil witch. She might advocate for school choice. Oh, the humanity! She might oppose gay marriage. The depravity!

Friggin' bitch. Get a rope.​

So how ya figure what I wrote was demagoguery when quite obviously the contents of my post are intended to expose the insanity of your demagoguery?

You're a little nuts, ain't ya?

 

[JakeStarkey]

buncha crap

ever'body has the right to opinion but if you don't got the votes. you still gotta get along. Goebbels, by the by, would have been impressed with your approach. It's called demogoguery.

Actually, I didn't write "buncha crap". I wrote:

Indeed, so now granny the evangelist who faithfully attends church services, tithes and volunteers her time to knit sweaters for the poor is a threat to liberty, the Constitution. She's a terrorist no less. Ooh. She might oppose abortion. ("The babies, the little babies.") Evil witch. She might advocate for school choice. Oh, the humanity! She might oppose gay marriage. The depravity!

Friggin' bitch. Get a rope.​

So how ya figure what I wrote was demagoguery when quite obviously the contents of my post are intended to expose the insanity of your demagoguery?

You're a little nuts, ain't ya?

Look up the definition, sunshine, and you will see yourself there. By the by, your demogoguery is piss poor.

 

[AllieBaba]

I get so sick of the attitude that everything is equally bad.

Everything is NOT equally bad. Some things are worse than others.