Christian florist vows Supreme appeal in same-sex war

[JoeB131]

And they would continue to happen, a person wanting to kill themself will find a way.

Then work on public mental health, not gun control.

You don't get to decide that, fucktard. I won't even consider the argument until the cops leave their guns in lockers at the precinct at the end of each shift, and go home unarmed like the rest of us, same as with any government official.

No, we need to concentrate on guns. As in we have too many in the hands of crazy people.

Germany lets its citizens own guns, but they are selective in who gets them. They don't have anywhere near our problems. Germany as a country has less homicides than any major American city.

I worry more about what cops do with their guns when they are on duty than off... considering you can pretty much shoot a black child in the back and not face any legal consequences unless they catch you on tape doing it.

 

[martybegan]

And they would continue to happen, a person wanting to kill themself will find a way.

Then work on public mental health, not gun control.

You don't get to decide that, fucktard. I won't even consider the argument until the cops leave their guns in lockers at the precinct at the end of each shift, and go home unarmed like the rest of us, same as with any government official.

No, we need to concentrate on guns. As in we have too many in the hands of crazy people.

Germany lets its citizens own guns, but they are selective in who gets them. They don't have anywhere near our problems. Germany as a country has less homicides than any major American city.

I worry more about what cops do with their guns when they are on duty than off... considering you can pretty much shoot a black child in the back and not face any legal consequences unless they catch you on tape doing it.

You hate guns, therefore "we must concentrate on guns". When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

it is also full of Germans (for now at least) who culturally are more of a "let government do what government does" type than Americans. Move there, I've been to Nuremberg, its lovely.

The 2nd amendment says the government doesn't get to decide.

Nice dodge of the statement there, poseur.

 

[RealDave]

The best solution would be if homosexuality will be prohibited again. Otherwise faggots are getting more and more impudent.



Lawyers for a Christian florist vow a vigorous appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court after a state supreme court ruled unanimously Thursday that their client violated anti-discrimination laws by refusing to provide floral arrangements for a same-sex wedding.

All nine justices ruled for the state of Washington and plaintiffs Robert Ingersoll and Curt Freed and against Baronelle Stutzman and her store, Arlene’s Flowers and Gifts.

“Discrimination based on same-sex marriage constitutes discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation,” wrote Justice Sheryl Gordon McCloud in the court’s opinion.

The court further stated that the state’s anti-discrimination law does not infringe upon Stutzman’s freedom of religious expression.

The Alliance Defending Freedom, which is defending Stutzman, begs to differ.

“They’re wrong,” said Alliance Defending Freedom Senior Counsel Kristen Waggoner, who argued Stutzman’s case before the Washington state Supreme Court.

“We’re deeply disappointed with today’s court decision,” Waggoner told WND and Radio America. “The First Amendment protects Baronelle’s rights as a small business owner and a creative professional. She has loved and respected everyone who has walked into her store. She served this gentleman (Ingersoll) for nearly 10 years and simply declined an event, one ceremony that was a religious ceremony because of her religious convictions.”


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Jesus said to love everyone. Not run around being bigoted POS.

These people are not Christian.

 

[JoeB131]

You hate guns, therefore "we must concentrate on guns". When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

yeah... um, when 33K people are shot to death, it's usually best to look at HOW they were shot.

it is also full of Germans (for now at least) who culturally are more of a "let government do what government does" type than Americans. Move there, I've been to Nuremberg, its lovely.

Again, we just "elected" a Nazi, they are still apologizing for Nazism 70 years later. We have no business criticizing, given we did it after everyone realized it was a bad idea.

The 2nd amendment says the government doesn't get to decide.

Nice dodge of the statement there, poseur.

It's not a dodge, it's an obvious statement. You say you wants you some guns because you are afraid of the big bad mean old Gummit coming for you.

Except that the government generally tends to act pretty badly in this country because you idiots have put so many guns out there.

While our police shoot 1200 Americans a year, cops in the UK have shot all of 52 over the last 25 years.

the proliferation of guns is actually causing the kind of bad government behavior you say you don't want.

 

[martybegan]

You hate guns, therefore "we must concentrate on guns". When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

yeah... um, when 33K people are shot to death, it's usually best to look at HOW they were shot.

it is also full of Germans (for now at least) who culturally are more of a "let government do what government does" type than Americans. Move there, I've been to Nuremberg, its lovely.

Again, we just "elected" a Nazi, they are still apologizing for Nazism 70 years later. We have no business criticizing, given we did it after everyone realized it was a bad idea.

The 2nd amendment says the government doesn't get to decide.

Nice dodge of the statement there, poseur.

It's not a dodge, it's an obvious statement. You say you wants you some guns because you are afraid of the big bad mean old Gummit coming for you.

Except that the government generally tends to act pretty badly in this country because you idiots have put so many guns out there.

While our police shoot 1200 Americans a year, cops in the UK have shot all of 52 over the last 25 years.

the proliferation of guns is actually causing the kind of bad government behavior you say you don't want.

suicides don't count. stop using them to prop up the number.

Trump is not a Nazi, stop lying.

I want the right to a gun because I have a right to defend myself. You want people cowering in their homes waiting for the police. Plus, your previous posts on "fuck poor people" shows your inherent bias, and probably a bit of racism, considering the poverty rate of blacks in this country (can't let the darkies have guns, right?)

How many of those 1200 shot had guns legally?

Doesn't mean i can't have a gun if I want one. Again, go pound sand.

 

[JoeB131]

I want the right to a gun because I have a right to defend myself. You want people cowering in their homes waiting for the police. Plus, your previous posts on "fuck poor people" shows your inherent bias, and probably a bit of racism, considering the poverty rate of blacks in this country (can't let the darkies have guns, right?)

Wow, you are losing the argument about what I did say, so you need to make up strawmen to beat up. That's nice, Marty. It's always fun to mop the floor with you.

How many of those 1200 shot had guns legally?

Irrelevent. A lot of them didn't have guns at all. But it's okay with your sort, they was darkies!!! The fact the gun industry makes those guns so available is the problem. Cops tend to shoot first and ask questions later, and it's always good to have a drop piece to put on the corpse.

Doesn't mean i can't have a gun if I want one. Again, go pound sand.

Guy, you can only have a gun as long as the majority of us who don't have them, continue to put up with your shit. Once your Nazi goes down in flames, we'll fix that problem, really quick.

 

[martybegan]

I want the right to a gun because I have a right to defend myself. You want people cowering in their homes waiting for the police. Plus, your previous posts on "fuck poor people" shows your inherent bias, and probably a bit of racism, considering the poverty rate of blacks in this country (can't let the darkies have guns, right?)

Wow, you are losing the argument about what I did say, so you need to make up strawmen to beat up. That's nice, Marty. It's always fun to mop the floor with you.

How many of those 1200 shot had guns legally?

Irrelevent. A lot of them didn't have guns at all. But it's okay with your sort, they was darkies!!! The fact the gun industry makes those guns so available is the problem. Cops tend to shoot first and ask questions later, and it's always good to have a drop piece to put on the corpse.

Doesn't mean i can't have a gun if I want one. Again, go pound sand.

Guy, you can only have a gun as long as the majority of us who don't have them, continue to put up with your shit. Once your Nazi goes down in flames, we'll fix that problem, really quick.

No strawman, if law abiding citizens are denied guns, then only government and criminals will have them. That is the end result of your desired policy. and your current support of NYC's gun laws means you think poor people don't deserve the right to defend themselves. No strawman here. It's your own views and you all of a sudden don't have the balls to stand by them.

It's 100% relevant. And the issue of black crime in black communities isn't going to be solved by stopping the law abiding black people from arming themselves. That is the current progressive strategy in the big cities, and it is failing miserably. And you managed to get a off topic cop bash in, asshole.

And that's a 2/3 supermajority of congress, and 3/4 of the States. Try to know the Constitution.

And there is no Nazi stuff going on with my side, that's all yours.

 

[JoeB131]

No strawman, if law abiding citizens are denied guns, then only government and criminals will have them. That is the end result of your desired policy. and your current support of NYC's gun laws means you think poor people don't deserve the right to defend themselves. No strawman here. It's your own views and you all of a sudden don't have the balls to stand by them.

Guy, every European country has some kind of gun control. they not only have a LOT less crime than we do, but their police officers rarely shoot civilians.

Again- 1200 Americans shot by the Jason van Dykes and Darren Wilsons of the world compared to maybe 2 a year shot in the UK.

Guns have no defensive value. 43 times more likely to kill a household member.

It's 100% relevant. And the issue of black crime in black communities isn't going to be solved by stopping the law abiding black people from arming themselves. That is the current progressive strategy in the big cities, and it is failing miserably. And you managed to get a off topic cop bash in, asshole.

But that's the problem, dumbass. That gun they bought 'for protection' usually ends up "causing a family tragedy in that argument over who drank the last can of Milwaukee's Best!"

And that's a 2/3 supermajority of congress, and 3/4 of the States. Try to know the Constitution.

Nope, just takes 5 SCOTUS judges who can read "Well-Regulated Militia".

 

[martybegan]

No strawman, if law abiding citizens are denied guns, then only government and criminals will have them. That is the end result of your desired policy. and your current support of NYC's gun laws means you think poor people don't deserve the right to defend themselves. No strawman here. It's your own views and you all of a sudden don't have the balls to stand by them.

Guy, every European country has some kind of gun control. they not only have a LOT less crime than we do, but their police officers rarely shoot civilians.

Again- 1200 Americans shot by the Jason van Dykes and Darren Wilsons of the world compared to maybe 2 a year shot in the UK.

Guns have no defensive value. 43 times more likely to kill a household member.

It's 100% relevant. And the issue of black crime in black communities isn't going to be solved by stopping the law abiding black people from arming themselves. That is the current progressive strategy in the big cities, and it is failing miserably. And you managed to get a off topic cop bash in, asshole.

But that's the problem, dumbass. That gun they bought 'for protection' usually ends up "causing a family tragedy in that argument over who drank the last can of Milwaukee's Best!"

And that's a 2/3 supermajority of congress, and 3/4 of the States. Try to know the Constitution.

Nope, just takes 5 SCOTUS judges who can read "Well-Regulated Militia".

Their Criminals also don't want to have guns as much, and they don't have the minority issues we have, although they have decided to bring that upon themselves.

When they do have someone with a gun though, the death rates tend to be a bit higher.

Kellerman is bullshit.

 

[danielpalos]

So your saying only rich people should be able to defend themselves? What an asshole...

Guy, we've already established this. Guns are USELESS for self-defense. a Gun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill a family member than a bad guy.

So only the rich should be able to indulge in the fantasy that their dicks aren't small.

And please link the 270 billion number, or rather don't because we all know your source will be bullshit..

The business insider puts the number at 229 Billion.

A breakdown of the $229 billion gun violence tab that American taxpayers are paying every year

They do a very nice job of breaking down the cost of your fetish.

of those 32k, more than half are suicides, those don't count.

Tell you what, say that to someone whose family member killed themselves.
"No biggie, it was only a suicide".

We have a Second Amendment. That means; our Wars on crime, drugs, and terror; are just boondoggles and generational forms of theft. Only the right wing is cognitively dissonant enough to "ditch Capitalism" for their socialism on a national basis.

 

[JoeB131]

heir Criminals also don't want to have guns as much, and they don't have the minority issues we have, although they have decided to bring that upon themselves.

Look everyone, Marty Brought the racism.

 

[Pop23]

How hard is it to say you're going on vacation that week?

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Wahhhhh, the democratic response to Trumps speech didn't mention the LGBTQ-LMNOP at all!

Guess who's getting thrown under the bus cuz thing like this makes the left look like dorks........

With almost no upside

 

[martybegan]

heir Criminals also don't want to have guns as much, and they don't have the minority issues we have, although they have decided to bring that upon themselves.

Look everyone, Marty Brought the racism.

Racism? Is crime an issue in Black urban communities? Isn't most of said crime black on black?

Racism would be not caring about it or even being a fan of it. Pointing it out and wanting a solution to it is the opposite.

And pointing out Europe's non-assimilating Muslim minority issue isn't racism either, it's a sad reality.

 

[JoeB131]

Racism? Is crime an issue in Black urban communities? Isn't most of said crime black on black?

No, but you keep blaming black people for the carnage the gun industry inflicts on this country.

And pointing out Europe's non-assimilating Muslim minority issue isn't racism either, it's a sad reality.

Yawn, yeah, it is. Blaming poor brown people for white people exploiting them... that's the defintion of racism.

 

[martybegan]

Racism? Is crime an issue in Black urban communities? Isn't most of said crime black on black?

No, but you keep blaming black people for the carnage the gun industry inflicts on this country.

And pointing out Europe's non-assimilating Muslim minority issue isn't racism either, it's a sad reality.

Yawn, yeah, it is. Blaming poor brown people for white people exploiting them... that's the defintion of racism.

Most of the gun crime in Chicago is black on black. In NYC add in Hispanic neighborhoods with strong gang ties. Why should that stop me from having a gun?

Blame progressive idiots for not pushing assimilation into the culture of the destination country. These people left their original countries for a reason, why not persuade them to adopt the culture of the place they came to?

 

[JoeB131]

Most of the gun crime in Chicago is black on black. In NYC add in Hispanic neighborhoods with strong gang ties. Why should that stop me from having a gun?

Because you don't need one. But if you really think its just the poor people having guns that are the problem, simple solution. Make bullets cost $1000 a box.

Blame progressive idiots for not pushing assimilation into the culture of the destination country. These people left their original countries for a reason, why not persuade them to adopt the culture of the place they came to?

dude, the song of the racist. 100 years ago, it was them Irish and Germans that "aren't assimilating'. Today we all get shitfaced drunk on St. Paddy's Day and Oktoberfest and everyone is fine with it.

The rich are great at this. Get you so afraid of "the other', you ignore what they are doing. You just cling to your gun and your bible, afraid some queer black Muslim might ask you to bake him a wedding cake.

 

[martybegan]

Most of the gun crime in Chicago is black on black. In NYC add in Hispanic neighborhoods with strong gang ties. Why should that stop me from having a gun?

Because you don't need one. But if you really think its just the poor people having guns that are the problem, simple solution. Make bullets cost $1000 a box.

Blame progressive idiots for not pushing assimilation into the culture of the destination country. These people left their original countries for a reason, why not persuade them to adopt the culture of the place they came to?

dude, the song of the racist. 100 years ago, it was them Irish and Germans that "aren't assimilating'. Today we all get shitfaced drunk on St. Paddy's Day and Oktoberfest and everyone is fine with it.

The rich are great at this. Get you so afraid of "the other', you ignore what they are doing. You just cling to your gun and your bible, afraid some queer black Muslim might ask you to bake him a wedding cake.

Actually it's criminals having the guns that are an issue. Poor law abiding people should have the same access as everyone else.

And you don't get to decide "I don't need one"

And guess what? They assimilated. My wife is Indian, and her family assimilated, same as the rest of her community. They kept their identities and culture, but picked up American culture as well, and made damn well sure their kids were more Americans than Indians. its the same thing the Irish and Italians, did, and it is not what you are seeing today in Europe, and in some communities in the US today.

And some queer black Muslim has far more to fear from his own community than some Christian Baker asking him to find another Baker 5 minutes away.

 

[JoeB131]

Actually it's criminals having the guns that are an issue. Poor law abiding people should have the same access as everyone else.

And you don't get to decide "I don't need one"

You're right. We should totally put that up to a vote.

Oh, wait. You'd probably lose a vote. "Founding Fathers, Founding Fathers" you'll scream when most of your neighbors would vote to take away your guns because you're kind of scary.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Should florists be forced to accommodate booger-eaters and booger-eating?
Same exact thing.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Should florists be forced to accommodate booger-eaters and booger-eating?
Same exact thing.

Are booger-eaters and booger-eating listed in Public Accommodation laws.

You equate booger-eating with being black (Race), Jewish (Religion), French (National Origin), old (Age), female (Sex) or gay (Sexual Orientation)?