Childless by choice

[anynameyouwish]

It is unnatural to not procreate. It is a normal human desire to propagate his/her species. To resist and refuse is abnormal.
I am abnormal. However I have chosen for very selfish reasons to not do so. I am a perpetual child who only seeks self gratification. I refuse to sacrifice for the benefit of race or culture. So, I have none.

It's outside the most common behavior, but I don't know if I'd call it "unnatural" or "abnormal". Probably always been at least a few people in every society who just aren't geared for parenthood. Better they recognize it ahead of time.

Absolutely abnormal. Dare I say it's as abnormal as homosexuality as it results in the same result.

As a freedom loving independent I don't really care that some people don't have children or that some people are gay or that some people are 7 ft tall or other people midgets or some people albinos....

no matter how ABNORMAL they are as long as they are decent people who take care of themselves they are ok with me.

 

[Erinwltr]

I know numerous people who have, at some point in their life, made the decision not to have children. Every one of them has had people give them grief over their choice.

What the hell is wrong with people? Why do they think they have a say in the matter?

sounds like you think people should just keep their mouth shut because you cant stand criticism,,,

its better for snowflakes to grow a pair and go somewhere they wont be offended,,,a small island would do it,,,

Sorry, you'll have to find another reason to try to insult me. I have children.

And actually, I think people should mind their own business and not worry about a personal decision some people make.

Thank you. I was reading through this thread to see if you have kids or not. I see progressive hunter assumed the OP was about you and took that as his cue to be a lousy, negative asshole. Great retort by you.

 

[Vastator]

Retirement systems need population growth to sustains themselves. If populations don't grow, then pensions won't pay out what has been promised. Therefore, people who don't have kids should get less SS.

population growth USA

1940 132 mill

1950 152 mill

1960 180 mill

1970 205 mill

1980 226 mill

1990 250 mill

2000 282 mill

2010 309 mill


I see no problem

That growth is from immigration.

The fact is, if we actually ended immigration, we would be in the same situation as Japan, with a dramatically falling population.

what would be wrong with that??

nothing says we have to increase all the time let alone decrease,,,

Collectivism, and socialist programs can’t survive population stagnation; much less a decreasing tax base...

Public education is a socialist program.

Yep. Perfect example of a failed socialist program.

 

[anynameyouwish]

Retirement systems need population growth to sustains themselves. If populations don't grow, then pensions won't pay out what has been promised. Therefore, people who don't have kids should get less SS.

population growth USA

1940 132 mill

1950 152 mill

1960 180 mill

1970 205 mill

1980 226 mill

1990 250 mill

2000 282 mill

2010 309 mill


I see no problem

That growth is from immigration.

The fact is, if we actually ended immigration, we would be in the same situation as Japan, with a dramatically falling population.

"That growth is from immigration."

is it?

(not trying to be dismissive or argumentative....just clearing it all up)

was that growth due to immigration in 1950? (operation paperclip? kidding)
or 1960?

Is it today?

I think i'll google it and see .......

 

[bodecea]

The more educated the population, particularly women, the fewer children.

 

[Pilot1]

It is unnatural to not procreate. It is a normal human desire to propagate his/her species. To resist and refuse is abnormal.
I am abnormal. However I have chosen for very selfish reasons to not do so. I am a perpetual child who only seeks self gratification. I refuse to sacrifice for the benefit of race or culture. So, I have none.

All State and Local gun laws are Unconstitutional as they are clear INFRINGEMENTS on our natural right as are many Federal Laws. The corrupt, activist courts have upheld them for many decades, and that needs to change.

So you think that a 6 year old should have the legal right to take a gun to school. Good one! Try taking your gun through a metal detector and when you`re stopped give the police your "infringement" lecture. Cops enjoy a good laugh now and then I`m sure.

Retirement systems need population growth to sustains themselves. If populations don't grow, then pensions won't pay out what has been promised. Therefore, people who don't have kids should get less SS.

population growth USA

1940 132 mill

1950 152 mill

1960 180 mill

1970 205 mill

1980 226 mill

1990 250 mill

2000 282 mill

2010 309 mill


I see no problem

That growth is from immigration.

The fact is, if we actually ended immigration, we would be in the same situation as Japan, with a dramatically falling population.

what would be wrong with that??

nothing says we have to increase all the time let alone decrease,,,

Collectivism, and socialist programs can’t survive population stagnation; much less a decreasing tax base...

Public education is a socialist program.

We have never had pure capitalism in the U.S. However, the social programs, and social engineering have become ridiculous. I think public education has declined so much that we should look at a different system all together. It has become a union/Democrat run indoctrination camp.

 

[anynameyouwish]

population growth USA

1940 132 mill

1950 152 mill

1960 180 mill

1970 205 mill

1980 226 mill

1990 250 mill

2000 282 mill

2010 309 mill


I see no problem

That growth is from immigration.

The fact is, if we actually ended immigration, we would be in the same situation as Japan, with a dramatically falling population.

what would be wrong with that??

nothing says we have to increase all the time let alone decrease,,,

Collectivism, and socialist programs can’t survive population stagnation; much less a decreasing tax base...

Public education is a socialist program.

Yep. Perfect example of a failed socialist program.

I imagine improving public education wouldn't appeal to you?

so we are left with ....religious schools? where muslims can teach the children to hate christians?

sorry but I prefer public education with NO RELIGIOUS AGENDA that stresses citizenship over religion.

The fact that so many conservatives proudly proclaim that they are
christians first
conservatives second
republicans third

without even bothering to put PATRIOTISM on the list .....is worrying......

and UNpatriotic.

 

[Vastator]

That growth is from immigration.

The fact is, if we actually ended immigration, we would be in the same situation as Japan, with a dramatically falling population.

what would be wrong with that??

nothing says we have to increase all the time let alone decrease,,,

Collectivism, and socialist programs can’t survive population stagnation; much less a decreasing tax base...

Public education is a socialist program.

Yep. Perfect example of a failed socialist program.

I imagine improving public education wouldn't appeal to you?

so we are left with ....religious schools? where muslims can teach the children to hate christians?

sorry but I prefer public education with NO RELIGIOUS AGENDA that stresses citizenship over religion.

The fact that so many conservatives proudly proclaim that they are
christians first
conservatives second
republicans third

without even bothering to put PATRIOTISM on the list .....is worrying......

and UNpatriotic.

Who? Name names...

 

[progressive hunter]

That growth is from immigration.

The fact is, if we actually ended immigration, we would be in the same situation as Japan, with a dramatically falling population.

what would be wrong with that??

nothing says we have to increase all the time let alone decrease,,,

Collectivism, and socialist programs can’t survive population stagnation; much less a decreasing tax base...

Public education is a socialist program.

Yep. Perfect example of a failed socialist program.

I imagine improving public education wouldn't appeal to you?

so we are left with ....religious schools? where muslims can teach the children to hate christians?

sorry but I prefer public education with NO RELIGIOUS AGENDA that stresses citizenship over religion.

The fact that so many conservatives proudly proclaim that they are
christians first
conservatives second
republicans third

without even bothering to put PATRIOTISM on the list .....is worrying......

and UNpatriotic.

public schools should be ran by the communities not the feds

 

[anynameyouwish]

what would be wrong with that??

nothing says we have to increase all the time let alone decrease,,,

Collectivism, and socialist programs can’t survive population stagnation; much less a decreasing tax base...

Public education is a socialist program.

Yep. Perfect example of a failed socialist program.

I imagine improving public education wouldn't appeal to you?

so we are left with ....religious schools? where muslims can teach the children to hate christians?

sorry but I prefer public education with NO RELIGIOUS AGENDA that stresses citizenship over religion.

The fact that so many conservatives proudly proclaim that they are
christians first
conservatives second
republicans third

without even bothering to put PATRIOTISM on the list .....is worrying......

and UNpatriotic.

public schools should be ran by the communities not the feds

with certain federal standards.

I want everyone learning the same language.

and I don't want northern yankee public schools teaching their kids that confederates are the enemy of America.

The same language
the same history
the same citizenship
no religion

 

[progressive hunter]

Collectivism, and socialist programs can’t survive population stagnation; much less a decreasing tax base...

Public education is a socialist program.

Yep. Perfect example of a failed socialist program.

I imagine improving public education wouldn't appeal to you?

so we are left with ....religious schools? where muslims can teach the children to hate christians?

sorry but I prefer public education with NO RELIGIOUS AGENDA that stresses citizenship over religion.

The fact that so many conservatives proudly proclaim that they are
christians first
conservatives second
republicans third

without even bothering to put PATRIOTISM on the list .....is worrying......

and UNpatriotic.

public schools should be ran by the communities not the feds

with certain federal standards.

I want everyone learning the same language.

and I don't want northern yankee public schools teaching their kids that confederates are the enemy of America.

The same language
the same history
the same citizenship
no religion

as long as the constitution allows it,,,which it doesnt

and confederates were the enemy of the USA,,to say otherwise is a lie

 

[anynameyouwish]

Public education is a socialist program.

Yep. Perfect example of a failed socialist program.

I imagine improving public education wouldn't appeal to you?

so we are left with ....religious schools? where muslims can teach the children to hate christians?

sorry but I prefer public education with NO RELIGIOUS AGENDA that stresses citizenship over religion.

The fact that so many conservatives proudly proclaim that they are
christians first
conservatives second
republicans third

without even bothering to put PATRIOTISM on the list .....is worrying......

and UNpatriotic.

public schools should be ran by the communities not the feds

with certain federal standards.

I want everyone learning the same language.

and I don't want northern yankee public schools teaching their kids that confederates are the enemy of America.

The same language
the same history
the same citizenship
no religion

as long as the constitution allows it,,,which it doesnt

and confederates were the enemy of the USA,,to say otherwise is a lie

"and confederates were the enemy of the USA,,to say otherwise is a lie"

Absolutely!

I just meant that I don't want the north (or the south) to teach school children to hate the south (or the north)

I've been down south for long periods....

They let you know they still haven't forgiven us for losing the civil war.

I want the kid in Alabama to want to be friends with the kid in New York, not his enemy.

 

[Erinwltr]

what would be wrong with that??

nothing says we have to increase all the time let alone decrease,,,

Collectivism, and socialist programs can’t survive population stagnation; much less a decreasing tax base...

Public education is a socialist program.

Yep. Perfect example of a failed socialist program.

I imagine improving public education wouldn't appeal to you?

so we are left with ....religious schools? where muslims can teach the children to hate christians?

sorry but I prefer public education with NO RELIGIOUS AGENDA that stresses citizenship over religion.

The fact that so many conservatives proudly proclaim that they are
christians first
conservatives second
republicans third

without even bothering to put PATRIOTISM on the list .....is worrying......

and UNpatriotic.

public schools should be ran by the communities not the feds

They are.

 

[progressive hunter]

Yep. Perfect example of a failed socialist program.

I imagine improving public education wouldn't appeal to you?

so we are left with ....religious schools? where muslims can teach the children to hate christians?

sorry but I prefer public education with NO RELIGIOUS AGENDA that stresses citizenship over religion.

The fact that so many conservatives proudly proclaim that they are
christians first
conservatives second
republicans third

without even bothering to put PATRIOTISM on the list .....is worrying......

and UNpatriotic.

public schools should be ran by the communities not the feds

with certain federal standards.

I want everyone learning the same language.

and I don't want northern yankee public schools teaching their kids that confederates are the enemy of America.

The same language
the same history
the same citizenship
no religion

as long as the constitution allows it,,,which it doesnt

and confederates were the enemy of the USA,,to say otherwise is a lie

"and confederates were the enemy of the USA,,to say otherwise is a lie"

Absolutely!

I just meant that I don't want the north (or the south) to teach school children to hate the south (or the north)

I've been down south for long periods....

They let you know they still haven't forgiven us for losing the civil war.

I want the kid in Alabama to want to be friends with the kid in New York, not his enemy.

forced education from a fed is not the answer,,,and the constitution clearly states NO authority

 

[Vastator]

Yep. Perfect example of a failed socialist program.

I imagine improving public education wouldn't appeal to you?

so we are left with ....religious schools? where muslims can teach the children to hate christians?

sorry but I prefer public education with NO RELIGIOUS AGENDA that stresses citizenship over religion.

The fact that so many conservatives proudly proclaim that they are
christians first
conservatives second
republicans third

without even bothering to put PATRIOTISM on the list .....is worrying......

and UNpatriotic.

public schools should be ran by the communities not the feds

with certain federal standards.

I want everyone learning the same language.

and I don't want northern yankee public schools teaching their kids that confederates are the enemy of America.

The same language
the same history
the same citizenship
no religion

as long as the constitution allows it,,,which it doesnt

and confederates were the enemy of the USA,,to say otherwise is a lie

"and confederates were the enemy of the USA,,to say otherwise is a lie"

Absolutely!

I just meant that I don't want the north (or the south) to teach school children to hate the south (or the north)

I've been down south for long periods....

They let you know they still haven't forgiven us for losing the civil war.

I want the kid in Alabama to want to be friends with the kid in New York, not his enemy.

That’s not up to you. It’s that whole “freedom” thing...

 

[anynameyouwish]

I imagine improving public education wouldn't appeal to you?

so we are left with ....religious schools? where muslims can teach the children to hate christians?

sorry but I prefer public education with NO RELIGIOUS AGENDA that stresses citizenship over religion.

The fact that so many conservatives proudly proclaim that they are
christians first
conservatives second
republicans third

without even bothering to put PATRIOTISM on the list .....is worrying......

and UNpatriotic.

public schools should be ran by the communities not the feds

with certain federal standards.

I want everyone learning the same language.

and I don't want northern yankee public schools teaching their kids that confederates are the enemy of America.

The same language
the same history
the same citizenship
no religion

as long as the constitution allows it,,,which it doesnt

and confederates were the enemy of the USA,,to say otherwise is a lie

"and confederates were the enemy of the USA,,to say otherwise is a lie"

Absolutely!

I just meant that I don't want the north (or the south) to teach school children to hate the south (or the north)

I've been down south for long periods....

They let you know they still haven't forgiven us for losing the civil war.

I want the kid in Alabama to want to be friends with the kid in New York, not his enemy.

forced education from a fed is not the answer,,,and the constitution clearly states NO authority

so....any area can teach its own language?
its own history?

 

[Andylusion]

Collectivism, and socialist programs can’t survive population stagnation; much less a decreasing tax base...

Public education is a socialist program.

Yep. Perfect example of a failed socialist program.

I imagine improving public education wouldn't appeal to you?

so we are left with ....religious schools? where muslims can teach the children to hate christians?

sorry but I prefer public education with NO RELIGIOUS AGENDA that stresses citizenship over religion.

The fact that so many conservatives proudly proclaim that they are
christians first
conservatives second
republicans third

without even bothering to put PATRIOTISM on the list .....is worrying......

and UNpatriotic.

public schools should be ran by the communities not the feds

with certain federal standards.

I want everyone learning the same language.

and I don't want northern yankee public schools teaching their kids that confederates are the enemy of America.

The same language
the same history
the same citizenship
no religion

I disagree with all of that. What part of "all rights are reserved for the states" do you not understand? The Federal government has zero constitutional right to dictate to the people of a state, how their state is run.

All rights..... ALL rights.... are reserved for the state.

See you people keep claiming Trump is the Nazi dictator, and then you turn right around and justify your own dictating to people how they live.

If California wishes to teach all their students Spanish, that's on California.

What's pathetic, is that even Canada understands our constitution better than we do. You don't see Canada saying that all provinces must teach exclusively English, do you? Because Quebec to this day teaches French, and many people don't speak English there.

Now if I was in that state, I would push to keep English as the primary language. It's better for everyone of that state.

But ALL RIGHTS RESERVED FOR THE STATES... means just that.

 

[anynameyouwish]

I imagine improving public education wouldn't appeal to you?

so we are left with ....religious schools? where muslims can teach the children to hate christians?

sorry but I prefer public education with NO RELIGIOUS AGENDA that stresses citizenship over religion.

The fact that so many conservatives proudly proclaim that they are
christians first
conservatives second
republicans third

without even bothering to put PATRIOTISM on the list .....is worrying......

and UNpatriotic.

public schools should be ran by the communities not the feds

with certain federal standards.

I want everyone learning the same language.

and I don't want northern yankee public schools teaching their kids that confederates are the enemy of America.

The same language
the same history
the same citizenship
no religion

as long as the constitution allows it,,,which it doesnt

and confederates were the enemy of the USA,,to say otherwise is a lie

"and confederates were the enemy of the USA,,to say otherwise is a lie"

Absolutely!

I just meant that I don't want the north (or the south) to teach school children to hate the south (or the north)

I've been down south for long periods....

They let you know they still haven't forgiven us for losing the civil war.

I want the kid in Alabama to want to be friends with the kid in New York, not his enemy.

That’s not up to you. It’s that whole “freedom” thing...

"That’s not up to you. It’s that whole “freedom” thing"

who is it up to?

Should freedom mean that the south can teach its children to keep waging war on the north?

should freedom mean that muslim areas of the US get to teach their children to hate christian areas?

or vice versa?

 

[Vastator]

public schools should be ran by the communities not the feds

with certain federal standards.

I want everyone learning the same language.

and I don't want northern yankee public schools teaching their kids that confederates are the enemy of America.

The same language
the same history
the same citizenship
no religion

as long as the constitution allows it,,,which it doesnt

and confederates were the enemy of the USA,,to say otherwise is a lie

"and confederates were the enemy of the USA,,to say otherwise is a lie"

Absolutely!

I just meant that I don't want the north (or the south) to teach school children to hate the south (or the north)

I've been down south for long periods....

They let you know they still haven't forgiven us for losing the civil war.

I want the kid in Alabama to want to be friends with the kid in New York, not his enemy.

That’s not up to you. It’s that whole “freedom” thing...

"That’s not up to you. It’s that whole “freedom” thing"

who is it up to?

Should freedom mean that the south can teach its children to keep waging war on the north?

should freedom mean that muslim areas of the US get to teach their children to hate christian areas?

or vice versa?

Indoctrinating kids on how to “feel” is intrinsically a leftist ideology.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Retirement systems need population growth to sustains themselves. If populations don't grow, then pensions won't pay out what has been promised. Therefore, people who don't have kids should get less SS.

population growth USA

1940 132 mill

1950 152 mill

1960 180 mill

1970 205 mill

1980 226 mill

1990 250 mill

2000 282 mill

2010 309 mill


I see no problem

That growth is from immigration.

The fact is, if we actually ended immigration, we would be in the same situation as Japan, with a dramatically falling population.

"That growth is from immigration."

is it?

(not trying to be dismissive or argumentative....just clearing it all up)

was that growth due to immigration in 1950? (operation paperclip? kidding)
or 1960?

Is it today?

I think i'll google it and see .......

Think US birthrate recently fell below replacement level ....if not it's real close