Character Assassination by Academics....

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So....you love to post how some scientist, or professor, found something you can use
against the other side?


1. Longfellow wrote this....

"Tell me not, in mournful numbers,
Life is but an empty dream!
For the soul is dead that slumbers,
And things are not what they seem"



Specifically, in the titles that folks see, and give special deference to.
Titles such as professor, or doctor, of scientist.....or religious leader

A recent poster referred to 'impartial academics.' Hardly.


1. Professor Diederik Stapel of Tilburg University, dean of the university’s School of Social and Behavioral Sciences. " Stapel was an academic star in the Netherlands and abroad, the author of several well-regarded studies on human attitudes and behavior. That spring, he published a widely publicized study in Science about an experiment done at the Utrecht train station showing that a trash-filled environment tended to bring out racist tendencies in individuals. And just days earlier, he received more media attention for a study indicating that eating meat made people selfish and less social."

2. " [The former was a] study linking racism to environmental untidiness, supposedly conducted during a strike by sanitation workers. In the experiment described in the Science paper, white volunteers were invited to fill out a questionnaire in a seat among a row of six chairs; the row was empty except for the first chair, which was taken by a black occupant or a white one. Stapel and his co-author claimed that white volunteers tended to sit farther away from the black person when the surrounding area was strewn with garbage.

a. He made everything up. All of it. " Overnight, Stapel went from being a respected professor to perhaps the biggest con man in academic science..... Stapel’s fraud may shine a spotlight on dishonesty in science, but scientific fraud is hardly new. The rogues’ gallery of academic liars and cheats features scientific celebrities who have enjoyed similar prominence.

The once-celebrated South Korean stem-cell researcher Hwang Woo Suk stunned scientists in his field a few years ago after it was discovered that almost all of the work for which he was known was fraudulent. The prominent Harvard evolutionary biologist Marc Hauser resigned in 2011 during an investigation by the Office of Research Integrity at the Department of Health and Human Services that would end up determining that some of his papers contained fabricated data."

b." Every year, the Office of Research Integrity uncovers numerous instances¬ of bad behavior by scientists, ranging from lying on grant applications to using fake images in publications. A blog called Retraction Watch publishes a steady stream of posts about papers being retracted by journals because of allegations or evidence of misconduct." http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/m...cious-academic-fraud.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0





How about another:

3. "Seduction of the Innocent" is a book by German-American psychiatrist Fredric Wertham, published in 1954, that warned that comic books were a negative form of popular literature and a serious cause of juvenile delinquency. The book was a minor bestseller that created alarm in parents and galvanized them to campaign for censorship. At the same time, a U.S. Congressional inquiry was launched into the comic book industry. Subsequent to the publication of "Seduction of the Innocent," the Comics Code Authority was voluntarily established by publishers to self-censor their titles."
Seduction of the Innocent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


a. "Wertham manipulated, falsified, overstated, and created evidence in support of the contentions expressed in "Seduction of the Innocent."
Carol L. Tilley. (2012). Seducing the Innocent: Fredric Wertham and the Falsifications that Helped Condemn Comics. Information & Culture: A Journal of History. 47 (4), 383 - 413.




And, one of my favorites:

4. "Arming America: The Origins of a National Gun Culture" is a discredited 2000 book by Michael A. Bellesiles on American gun culture. The book is an expansion of a 1996 Journal of American History article by Bellesiles, and argues that guns were uncommon during peacetime in early United States, and that a culture of gun ownership arose only much later. It initially won the prestigious Bancroft Prize, but later became the first book in that prize's history to have its award rescinded. The revocation occurred afterColumbia University's Board of Trustees decided that Bellesiles had "violated basic norms of scholarship and the high standards expected of Bancroft Prize winners." Arming America - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It was designed to strengthen the argument for gun control. He made everything up.




5. Many will recognize a running joke on the board, that 'only 6% of scientists are Republican...or conservatives.' I don't know if that is true...but if it is, it appears that it is a good thing.

Notice that the bogus studies are designed to advance Liberal themes. Perhaps that is because universities are overwhelmingly Liberal...and these themes herald career advancement.



a. And this is not just recently. The wave of vilification of bourgeois culture received impetus from “The Authoritarian Personality,” by Adorno, et. al., 1950, which identified antidemocratic indicia such as obedience and respect for authority. Conservatism, of course, was another name for fascism, and represented personal pathology.

So....let's remember: no matter what precedes their names, , the overriding title is Homo sapiens. And that means that the same attitude and motivation inspires all of us.



So....still ready to accept all those anti-religion, anti-conservative, anti-American theses that come from 'impartial academics'?
 
Well, then there's that hockey stick model that Al Gore pushed, and the Climategate via the University of East Anglia, then I can jump to the laughable peer-review process instituted by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which summarily rejected studies that conflicted with global warming. Then there was the Himalayan Glaciers incident.

Yes, and Liberals call US uneducated?
 
It seems that the less informed look to 'titles' so they don't have to use their own native intelligence, and initiative.

Especially when it supports their own biases.

And, with the Left in control of the universities and the media,....they find easy support for their slanders.
 
And then the famous Kinsey study purporting to show that 10% of the population is homosexual. Later debunked (most of his sample were prison inmates) and the actual figure is about 2-3%.
 
Add to the list New Zealand professor of clinical neurology Alan Barber:
 
Description of Circumstantial Ad Hominem

A Circumstantial ad Hominem is a fallacy in which one attempts to attack a claim by asserting that the person making the claim is making it simply out of self interest. In some cases, this fallacy involves substituting an attack on a person's circumstances (such as the person's religion, political affiliation, ethnic background, etc.). The fallacy has the following forms:


Person A makes claim X.
Person B asserts that A makes claim X because it is in A's interest to claim X.
Therefore claim X is false.

Person A makes claim X.
Person B makes an attack on A's circumstances.
Therefore X is false.


A Circumstantial ad Hominem is a fallacy because a person's interests and circumstances have no bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim being made. While a person's interests will provide them with motives to support certain claims, the claims stand or fall on their own. It is also the case that a person's circumstances (religion, political affiliation, etc.) do not affect the truth or falsity of the claim.


Fallacy: Circumstantial Ad Hominem
 
It seems that the less informed look to 'titles' so they don't have to use their own native intelligence, and initiative.

Especially when it supports their own biases.

.

this could be said for anyone regardless of leanings. People look for titles with shocking value because that is what sells stories these days. Sensationalism only partisanship is about money and making more money. Welcome to your internet-24 hour news of today.

We see it on here as well all the time with people, but you or others will just deny it as usual. Its part of living in the bubble with little air.
 
Description of Circumstantial Ad Hominem

A Circumstantial ad Hominem is a fallacy in which one attempts to attack a claim by asserting that the person making the claim is making it simply out of self interest. In some cases, this fallacy involves substituting an attack on a person's circumstances (such as the person's religion, political affiliation, ethnic background, etc.). The fallacy has the following forms:


Person A makes claim X.
Person B asserts that A makes claim X because it is in A's interest to claim X.
Therefore claim X is false.

Person A makes claim X.
Person B makes an attack on A's circumstances.
Therefore X is false.


A Circumstantial ad Hominem is a fallacy because a person's interests and circumstances have no bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim being made. While a person's interests will provide them with motives to support certain claims, the claims stand or fall on their own. It is also the case that a person's circumstances (religion, political affiliation, etc.) do not affect the truth or falsity of the claim.


Fallacy: Circumstantial Ad Hominem


The point that self-interest is often a motivator in scientific research was made without resorting to the ad hominem fallacy. Give yourself an F for the day.
 
Add to the list New Zealand professor of clinical neurology Alan Barber:

Yup sure sounds like a quack to me.
Leading research into brain disorders | Stuff.co.nz

On the Auckland University study.

The author (Dr. P. Alan Barber) openly admits that the study didn't account for tobacco use —how long and how much the young stroke patients had been smoking and how big a role that might have played in stroke risk. The "study" also relied on urine samples, but traces of THC can be found in the urine for at least a whole month after consumption of cannabis.

According to the US National Stroke Association, "Smoking tobacco (at least)doubles the risk for stroke when compared to a non-smoker. It reduces the amount of oxygen in the blood, causing the heart to work harder and allowing blood clots to form more easily."

"Prohibitionists are scraping the bottom of the barrel by claiming that cannabis doubles the risk of stroke, when this result has already been linked to tobacco use. There is nothing scientific about this study and it should be discredited by all rational individuals."
 
Description of Circumstantial Ad Hominem

A Circumstantial ad Hominem is a fallacy in which one attempts to attack a claim by asserting that the person making the claim is making it simply out of self interest. In some cases, this fallacy involves substituting an attack on a person's circumstances (such as the person's religion, political affiliation, ethnic background, etc.). The fallacy has the following forms:


Person A makes claim X.
Person B asserts that A makes claim X because it is in A's interest to claim X.
Therefore claim X is false.

Person A makes claim X.
Person B makes an attack on A's circumstances.
Therefore X is false.


A Circumstantial ad Hominem is a fallacy because a person's interests and circumstances have no bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim being made. While a person's interests will provide them with motives to support certain claims, the claims stand or fall on their own. It is also the case that a person's circumstances (religion, political affiliation, etc.) do not affect the truth or falsity of the claim.


Fallacy: Circumstantial Ad Hominem


The point that self-interest is often a motivator in scientific research was made without resorting to the ad hominem fallacy. Give yourself an F for the day.

The line:

So....still ready to accept all those anti-religion, anti-conservative, anti-American theses that come from 'impartial academics'?

...you don't think that was an attempt to take some isolated anecdotes and conflate them into what is meant to broadly, let's say, assassinate the character of liberal academics in an ad hominem fashion precisely in accordance with the description I posted?

lol, if you don't, you are wrong.
 
Description of Circumstantial Ad Hominem

A Circumstantial ad Hominem is a fallacy in which one attempts to attack a claim by asserting that the person making the claim is making it simply out of self interest. In some cases, this fallacy involves substituting an attack on a person's circumstances (such as the person's religion, political affiliation, ethnic background, etc.). The fallacy has the following forms:


Person A makes claim X.
Person B asserts that A makes claim X because it is in A's interest to claim X.
Therefore claim X is false.

Person A makes claim X.
Person B makes an attack on A's circumstances.
Therefore X is false.


A Circumstantial ad Hominem is a fallacy because a person's interests and circumstances have no bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim being made. While a person's interests will provide them with motives to support certain claims, the claims stand or fall on their own. It is also the case that a person's circumstances (religion, political affiliation, etc.) do not affect the truth or falsity of the claim.


Fallacy: Circumstantial Ad Hominem



The only fallacy here is that you actually believe you have a point in addition on the top of your head.
 
Well, then there's that hockey stick model that Al Gore pushed, and the Climategate via the University of East Anglia, then I can jump to the laughable peer-review process instituted by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which summarily rejected studies that conflicted with global warming. Then there was the Himalayan Glaciers incident.

Yes, and Liberals call US uneducated?

If the overalll overwhelming consensus among scientists, including an overwhelming consensus among those not shown to be unethical or incompetent,

if that consensus is that the planet is warming,

how would it be that anecdotal incidents of unethical or incompetent actions in the scientific community serve to refute that consensus?

Does rampant pedophilia in the Catholic Church refute all principles of Christianity?
 
Description of Circumstantial Ad Hominem

A Circumstantial ad Hominem is a fallacy in which one attempts to attack a claim by asserting that the person making the claim is making it simply out of self interest. In some cases, this fallacy involves substituting an attack on a person's circumstances (such as the person's religion, political affiliation, ethnic background, etc.). The fallacy has the following forms:


Person A makes claim X.
Person B asserts that A makes claim X because it is in A's interest to claim X.
Therefore claim X is false.

Person A makes claim X.
Person B makes an attack on A's circumstances.
Therefore X is false.


A Circumstantial ad Hominem is a fallacy because a person's interests and circumstances have no bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim being made. While a person's interests will provide them with motives to support certain claims, the claims stand or fall on their own. It is also the case that a person's circumstances (religion, political affiliation, etc.) do not affect the truth or falsity of the claim.


Fallacy: Circumstantial Ad Hominem



The only fallacy here is that you actually believe you have a point in addition on the top of your head.

Do you believe that a scientific study by 'liberal' scientists can in fact be of genuine scientific value, and can be objective despite the personal leanings of the scientists,

and therefore any attempt to summarily impugn or reject any study using those leanings is a fallacious argument?
 
So what are we to conclude from this thread?

That we ought to dismiss any and all academic studies because some academic studies are found to be biased?
 
So....still ready to accept all those anti-religion, anti-conservative, anti-American theses that come from 'impartial academics'?

Sure! I'll take their studies over your ad hominem generally vague attacks anyday.

Showing that someone lied in the past does nothing to advance your idea that someone is lying now.

It's like not taking your umbrella one day after the Weatherman said its going to be sunny and it rains then you vow to never believe anyone ever again. :cuckoo:
 
So what are we to conclude from this thread?

That we ought to dismiss any and all academic studies because some academic studies are found to be biased?

No, because I doubt the author of this thread summarily rejects any climate change study done by researchers on the payroll of Big Oil.
 
So what are we to conclude from this thread?

That we ought to dismiss any and all academic studies because some academic studies are found to be biased?




Social Science: elaborate demonstration of the obvious by methods that are obscure.

A basic rule: when the results of some study doesn't make sense.....don't believe 'em.

Warning: this rule is dangerous to utilize if one either has no brain, or is a Democrat.
 
I love the way PC goes from trying to pretend to be an academic to Turning into full on rabid name calling when called on her bullshit.
 

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