is this America anymore?

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NSA admits to listening to calls without warrants

NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants | Politics and Law - CNET News

National Security Agency discloses in secret Capitol Hill briefing that thousands of analysts can listen to domestic phone calls. That authorization appears to extend to e-mail and text messages too.

 

[Katzndogz]

No this isn't America any more. Now obama wants personal access to every cell phone so he can send out his message 24/7. We are a police state.

 

[regent]

No this isn't America any more. Now obama wants personal access to every cell phone so he can send out his message 24/7. We are a police state.

Will Obama allow us talk back to him or do we just listen? Seems only common courtesy that we can talk back. If citizens can talk back to Obama will we still be a police state? Another question, when our cell phone rings how will we know it's the real Obama, should we ask for an ID say a birth certificate or something? Anyway, I wonder if this will be like the old FDR fireside chats? But I admit the 24/7 thing worries me, the damn phone will be ringing day and night

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

> Is this America any more?

No. It hasn't been America since Reagan jump-started the nation living on borrowed money (tripled the debt in 8 yrs in peacetime). Then came the moral majority clownshow with its mandatory prison sentences for minor drug offenses and its efforts to meddle in the private affairs of citizens. That not being sufficient, Junebug Bush introduced the fascist Patriot Act and the Nazi oriented Ministry of Fear (aka DHL) and the scum of the earth in both parties fell over themselves to end the America that for a brief period represented some good things.

The America that existed prior to the Nutball Ascension is gone. Clinton and Obama fit right in; big spending clowns with no regard for policies benefiting ordinary Americans.

It's all pie in the sky for pipedreamers.

 

[Mac1958]

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We were promised fundamental change, here it comes.

Our "leaders" have failed, both parties.

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[ScreamingEagle]

as long as we can still vote in conservatives we stand a chance to revive America....however the Democrats are trying to illegally rig the game...

 

[B. Kidd]

It's Amerika, not America. You're all spelling it wrong!

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

Stunning possibility division
> as long as we can vote in conservatives ....

When did that become a possibility?

There hasn't been an important conservative in United States politics since Barry Goldwater retired from the senate. Every one of the filthy fucking scum lined up behind either Reagan or a Bush to fuck the United States with debt fueled spending.

Maybe all that is wrong? What important leader drew a line and resigned from the big spending chickenhaw neocon nutball gaggle that began degrading the Republican Party in the late 1970s and hasn't let up since? WHO EVEN CHALLENGED BIG SPENDING FAKE CONSERVATIVE NEOCON SCUM?

 

[The Rabbi]

No this isn't America any more. Now obama wants personal access to every cell phone so he can send out his message 24/7. We are a police state.

Hey you wanted a president who listens to the people. You got one.

 

[TemplarKormac]

They say this is America. But I don't believe it. They say we are free, I don't believe that either. We used to be America, until hope and change came along.

 

[bitterlyclingin]

[Mebbe the Saudi Sars virus will strike before they fill up that first yottabyte. You don't think al Qaeda wouldn't deliberately infect a few US Muslim pilgrims to the Haj, see them back onto the plane afterwards and take delight in the results over here, 60 per cent fatalities. And we wouldn't even know about it until all the hospitals were filled to the overflowing with the dead and the dying, simply because the NSA is not, IS NOT, looking for Muslim terrorists, they've been banned from looking in mosques since 2009, meanwhile that same year Obama dispatched his spies and FBI informers to the hustings where the Evangelical Christian Churches are located, ferretting out which congregations contain the most numerous and most vocal anti Obama members for the purpose of reporting back to, well to...Barack There's a reason Tzhokhar and Tamerlan were able to pull off what they did when they did it. According to president He Who Has A Food Taster Like Roman Emperor Caligula, America's enemies are not his Muzzie Brethren but white conservative Christians. If guys like George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Andrew Jackson, and Ben Franklin were still alive, they'd be on Obama's enemies list too.
Unfortunately, thats what happens when the nation's voter rolls are filled with discriminating voters who base their candidate choice judiciously on qualifications like these "He was young and looked cool, so I voted for him" and "He's going to pay for my groceries" Astute decision making like those is what has made Illinois that bastion of fiscal prudence and conservatism that it has been known for. When those curmudgeonly Wall Street bankers recently asked Illinois State Officials what revenue stream they were going to dedicate to the repayment of bonds the state was selling to pay for its employee reirement and healthcare funding, State Officials replied "Psst! Come's close here sose no ones can hear! Da Federal Governments gonna pay back dem dere bonds" That's also the reason three out of four of Illinois most recent governors have finished their terms in office staring out their jail cell windows. ]

"Under construction by contractors with top-secret clearances, the blandly named Utah Data Center is being built for the National Security Agency. A project of immense secrecy, it is the final piece in a complex puzzle assembled over the past decade. Its purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze, and store vast swaths of the world’s communications as they zap down from satellites and zip through the underground and undersea cables of international, foreign, and domestic networks. The heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and running in September 2013. Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital “pocket litter.” It is, in some measure, the realization of the “total information awareness” program created during the first term of the Bush administration—an effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after it caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americans’ privacy.

But “this is more than just a data center,” says one senior intelligence official who until recently was involved with the program. The mammoth Bluffdale center will have another important and far more secret role that until now has gone unrevealed. It is also critical, he says, for breaking codes. And code-breaking is crucial, because much of the data that the center will handle—financial information, stock transactions, business deals, foreign military and diplomatic secrets, legal documents, confidential personal communications—will be heavily encrypted. According to another top official also involved with the program, the NSA made an enormous breakthrough several years ago in its ability to cryptanalyze, or break, unfathomably complex encryption systems employed by not only governments around the world but also many average computer users in the US. The upshot, according to this official: “Everybody’s a target; everybody with communication is a target.”

In the process—and for the first time since Watergate and the other scandals of the Nixon administration—the NSA has turned its surveillance apparatus on the US and its citizens. It has established listening posts throughout the nation to collect and sift through billions of email messages and phone calls, whether they originate within the country or overseas. It has created a supercomputer of almost unimaginable speed to look for patterns and unscramble codes. Finally, the agency has begun building a place to store all the trillions of words and thoughts and whispers captured in its electronic net. And, of course, it’s all being done in secret. To those on the inside, the old adage that NSA stands for Never Say Anything applies more than ever."

?We Are This Far From A Turnkey Totalitarian State - BlackListedNews.com

 

[Katzndogz]

No this isn't America any more. Now obama wants personal access to every cell phone so he can send out his message 24/7. We are a police state.

Hey you wanted a president who listens to the people. You got one.

Making announcements is not listening.

It must have occured to this dictator that not everyone checks the white house facebook page hourly nor follows the obama twitter tweets. He has to expand his reach.

 

[Moonglow]

You boys born yesterday?

No protesting the government? No immigrants allowed in? No freedom of the press. Lawmakers jailed? Is this the story of the Soviet Union during the Cold War?

No. It describes the United States in 1798 after the passage of the Alien and Sedition Acts.

The Alien and Sedition Acts [ushistory.org]

 

[Desperado]

is this America anymore?
No and it hasn't been for a while now, with the worst part being that it will not ever be the same as it was before.

 

[rdean]

NSA admits to listening to calls without warrants

NSA admits listening to U.S. phone calls without warrants | Politics and Law - CNET News

National Security Agency discloses in secret Capitol Hill briefing that thousands of analysts can listen to domestic phone calls. That authorization appears to extend to e-mail and text messages too.

They said they could listen. Not "were".

Funny how these right wingers screamed about "security leaks" and when the president tries to stop them, they scream about that. Fuck 'em. They are just a bunch of witless "screamers".

Screamers - they yank out your brain!

 

[Mr Natural]

When was America America?

 

[Immanuel]

No this isn't America any more. Now obama wants personal access to every cell phone so he can send out his message 24/7. We are a police state.

I have not heard about this. Do you have a link to it? I'd like to see the justification of this one.

To see the justification, I should probably go to HuffPost, shouldn't I?

Immie

 

[Agit8r]

It seems that SCOTUS had a shot at ruling on this, but they wouldn't pick up the ball:

Clapper v. Amnesty International - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Moonglow]

Katz is on a frenzy, the alerts are for Amber alerts and emergency warnings

 

[rdean]

They say this is America. But I don't believe it. They say we are free, I don't believe that either. We used to be America, until hope and change came along.

What is it you are not "free" to do?


Well?



Well?


Thought so.