Censorship, American-Style

"The issue is whether or not a magazine has the right to decide who writes for them."

So that is the summary of your misunderstanding of this thread????

That explains so much of your blather!

From Prufrock: "That is not what I meant at all. That is not it, at all."

But then...you have no idea what Prufrock is, do you?
Yogurt has more active culture than you do.....


No...the thread is not "whether or not a magazine has the right..."

It is whether or not there is a form of censorship that emanates from the Left in this great nation....

and... quod erat demonstrandum.

And do you wish to contend that it is something unique to the Left?

Why don't we look at an actual case of intolerance on a college campus, in the arena of academia, and NOT some business decision by a trade magazine:

Liberty University Derecognizes College Democrats

May 26, 2009


by Robert Shibley



FIRE has received a large number of e-mails asking for our take on the recent derecognition by Liberty University of its chapter of the College Democrats. For those who don't know, last week saw reports that Liberty University—a private, evangelical Christian university founded by the late Rev. Jerry Falwell—had determined that the campus chapter of the College Democrats could not be an official organization at Liberty because of its affiliation with the national Democratic Party. Mark Hine, Liberty's vice president of student affairs, explained the decision in an e-mail to the campus club, saying that its affiliation with the national Democratic Party was unacceptable because


The Democratic Party platform is contrary to the mission of Liberty University and to Christian doctrine (supports abortion, federal funding of abortion, advocates repeal of the federal Defense of Marriage Act, promotes the "LGBT" agenda, hate crimes, which include sexual orientation and gender identity, socialism, etc.)


Liberty University Derecognizes College Democrats - The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education - FIRE

Okay?

Shall we agree to quit making the imbecilic claim that political correctness at our universities/colleges, etc. is some sort of uniquely Liberal practice??

So, you have had an epiphany?

In all of the posts where you defended and supported censorship.....you now claim you were wrong?

Would that be a fair analysis of this post?

I did not defend censorship. I explained why your example was not censorship.

My example is one of Christian conservative political correctness on a college campus used to inhibit freedom of speech and assembly in a discriminatory manner.

Correct?
 
Good point. The employer caved as a result from the pressure of the petition, abandoning principle in favor of a Lynch Mob. .

Did Obama cave to the Lynch Mob in the Van Jones case?

This one is a bad example....

....Obama didn't cave to any lynch mob....he acted in his own self interest.

Outside of a boisterous fraction on this board, communism has very little support in the nation, and embracing an avowed communist would have moved him even lower in the polls than he stands now.


Anita Dunn .....the same.

Of course. No one on the Right objected to Van Jones, is that your stance?
 
Your opinion of what is or isn't the truth here is irrelevant. The issue is whether or not a magazine has the right to decide who writes for them.

"The issue is whether or not a magazine has the right to decide who writes for them."

So that is the summary of your misunderstanding of this thread????

That explains so much of your blather!

From Prufrock: "That is not what I meant at all. That is not it, at all."

But then...you have no idea what Prufrock is, do you?
Yogurt has more active culture than you do.....


No...the thread is not "whether or not a magazine has the right..."

It is whether or not there is a form of censorship that emanates from the Left in this great nation....

and... quod erat demonstrandum.

And do you wish to contend that it is something unique to the Left?

Why don't we look at an actual case of intolerance on a college campus, in the arena of academia, and NOT some business decision by a trade magazine:

Liberty University Derecognizes College Democrats

May 26, 2009


by Robert Shibley



FIRE has received a large number of e-mails asking for our take on the recent derecognition by Liberty University of its chapter of the College Democrats. For those who don't know, last week saw reports that Liberty University—a private, evangelical Christian university founded by the late Rev. Jerry Falwell—had determined that the campus chapter of the College Democrats could not be an official organization at Liberty because of its affiliation with the national Democratic Party. Mark Hine, Liberty's vice president of student affairs, explained the decision in an e-mail to the campus club, saying that its affiliation with the national Democratic Party was unacceptable because


The Democratic Party platform is contrary to the mission of Liberty University and to Christian doctrine (supports abortion, federal funding of abortion, advocates repeal of the federal Defense of Marriage Act, promotes the "LGBT" agenda, hate crimes, which include sexual orientation and gender identity, socialism, etc.)


Liberty University Derecognizes College Democrats - The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education - FIRE

Okay?

Shall we agree to quit making the imbecilic claim that political correctness at our universities/colleges, etc. is some sort of uniquely Liberal practice??

bump. Just because it's such an elegant smackdown.
 
But in the real world, they aren't 50 percent of the population.

That's what I mean.

They don't have to have overwhelming numbers, that's the point. They're dishonest and corrupt...if they can lie, cheat, steal and beat their way to dominance, that's what they do.

And it's effective, though loathsome.

In the real world, we aren't 50 percent either. Both side here are the influence makers. Yes, the left lies, cheats and steals; that is their forte and what they bring to the party. We expose them and try to keep them in check.

Welcome to politics.

God, I love you guys

The funny part is you are dead serious. Makes me appreciate that your ideologies days are numbered
 
There is no more clear proof to show the way the fascist left works, is to see how they treat conservative African Americans who don't tow the liberal line. Clarence Thomas, Allen west, Thomas Sowell ect… They are hated and despised, because they have a different opinion. The left doesn’t want conversation or exchange of ideas, they want their opposition silenced, that’s the way they roll…


Clarence Thomas High-Tech Lynching - YouTube

Really? Then why isn't Tim Scott on your list? Clarence Thomas, Allen West and Thomas Sowell are hated by the black community because they are buck dancing coons in the vein of Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson and Herman Cain. Tim Scott is the Republican kingmaker in South Carolina, yet he is never mentioned by the conservative crowd here on USMB. Thomas, West, Sowell, Peterson and Cain are mentioned because they say the coonish things that white tea party conservatives want to hear from "their" black conservatives, the outlandish bs that they themselves believe about President Obama.
 
And then we have this from conservative Regent University:

Regent student gets flak for Robertson photo on Web site

Regent University officials have threatened to discipline a law student for posting on his Facebook page an unflattering photo of Regent President Pat Robertson.

The student, Adam M. Key, defended his action as constitutionally protected free speech in a 14-page legal brief he presented to the dean of the law school.

Regent officials gave Key two choices: publicly apologize for posting the picture and refrain from commenting about the matter in a “public medium,” or write a brief defending the posting. He faces punishment that could include expulsion.

Key, a second-year law student, said he refused to apologize and “be muzzled” by the university, so he composed the document, which includes citations from noted First Amendment cases.


Regent student gets flak for Robertson photo on Web site | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

The Conservatives at Regent want to expel him for posting a politically incorrect picture on his own facebook page.

As with the previous example, we will see no objection expressed by the resident wingnut sheep.
 
"Scores of critics on the site complained that I had not read the dissertations in full before daring to write about them—an absurd standard for a 500-word blog post. A number of the dissertations aren't even available. Which didn't seem to stop the Chronicle reporter, though."
Naomi Schaefer Riley: The Academic Mob Rules - WSJ.com

She also said:

"Finally, since this is a blog about academia and not journalism, I'll forgive the commenters for not understanding that it is not my job to read entire dissertations before I write a 500-word piece about them. I read some academic publications (as they relate to other research I do), but there are not enough hours in the day or money in the world to get me to read a dissertation on historical black midwifery. In fact, I'd venture to say that fewer than 20 people in the whole world will read it. And the same holds true for the others that are mentioned in the piece."

So she wants to end abolish black studies based on summaries of 5 dissertations, without studying the discipline? Which I'm sure someone could argue after reading 5 Phd dissertation summaries on English or Anthropology. "Isn't calling for the abolition of those departments based on the dissertations, and then bragging that you haven't read any of them, journalistic malpractice?"

Ta-Nehisi Coates - Authors - The Atlantic

After they abolish 'black studies,' 'women's studies' should be next....

....unless they teach how to balance a checkbook, and parallel park....

Ah, but your OP was saying she was fired for "Censorship, American Style" and you wrote:

"So, there was a thread about censorship, and arrests over anti-Semitic comments in Enland….and I pointed out that there exists a kind of censorship in this country with respect to certain protected groups….and it seems that I discomforted one of our pretend-law experts…who said:

“No, no reason for you to further exhibit your ignorance.

There are no statutes in the United States prohibiting the use of any word or term. You’re free to demonstrate your hatred of other races and religions with impunity.”

Interesting obfuscation,....So…I thought it was worth examining.....and found this:"


When I argue that she was fired for "journalistic malpractice" for not researching the topic, you ignore my point. She didn't prove her thesis and practiced the same shoddy work that she accused the black studies Phds of doing. Why is her work any less right-wing victimization than theirs is "left-wing victimization"?
 
God, I love you guys

The funny part is you are dead serious. Makes me appreciate that your ideologies days are numbered

Do you really think that drooling sycophants who would sell their mother to a TJ brothel if it meant an extra vote for Obama make up 50% of the American voting public?

If so, PUT THE CRACK PIPE DOWN SLOWLY.....
 
God, I love you guys

The funny part is you are dead serious. Makes me appreciate that your ideologies days are numbered

Do you really think that drooling sycophants who would sell their mother to a TJ brothel if it meant an extra vote for Obama make up 50% of the American voting public?

If so, PUT THE CRACK PIPE DOWN SLOWLY.....

oh, cmon, you don't really drool, do you?
 
And then we have this from conservative Regent University:

Regent student gets flak for Robertson photo on Web site

Regent University officials have threatened to discipline a law student for posting on his Facebook page an unflattering photo of Regent President Pat Robertson.

The student, Adam M. Key, defended his action as constitutionally protected free speech in a 14-page legal brief he presented to the dean of the law school.

Regent officials gave Key two choices: publicly apologize for posting the picture and refrain from commenting about the matter in a “public medium,” or write a brief defending the posting. He faces punishment that could include expulsion.

Key, a second-year law student, said he refused to apologize and “be muzzled” by the university, so he composed the document, which includes citations from noted First Amendment cases.


Regent student gets flak for Robertson photo on Web site | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

The Conservatives at Regent want to expel him for posting a politically incorrect picture on his own facebook page.

As with the previous example, we will see no objection expressed by the resident wingnut sheep.

I'm just curious. How many these examples would I have to post before ONE rightwing doof on this forum would demonstrate at least a moment of lucidity,

and acknowledge that, yes, dang it,

political correctness is just as much a sin of the Right as it is the Left...
 
Yes, that was absolutely awesome when that homophobic prude phony got fired from her job!

Although frankly, she should have been fired a lot earlier than this nonsense.

actually, she had been in decline for a long time before this. I didn't even know she was still on the air anywhere.


The point is there is a double standard for liberal and conservatives, if there is something said by a conservative that offends someone there is an effort by the liberal fascist and organizations to silence them, to destroy them, as with the recent case with Rush Limbaugh. Conservative don't want to silence liberals. The liberal fascist want to control speech, which is why they push the So-called fairness doctrine.

Bullshit.

When Bill Maher made his rather dumb comments about terrorists after 9/11 being "not cowardly", you all insisted he be taken off the air. (And so did I at the time, before I realized the GOP was kind of full of it.)

You all screamed for Dan Rather's head in 2004 when he goofed up on the Bush Guard story.

Not to mention campaigns to get shows like Glee pulled off the air.
 
I didn't insist he be taken off the air.

I heard a lot of guffaws and gentle reminders that every time Rush or Coulter make a joke you don't like, you want them banned from this media or that...
 

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