Can Obama "Swiftboat" Romney?

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    Consider this. IN 2004, Democrats nominated John F. Kerry not because he was the one they liked or felt passionate about, but because on paper, he seemed like the antidote to George W. Bush. His war record innoculated him from any claims of being weak on defense. On paper, he looked great, if no one read the fine print.

    Then someone looked at the fine print. They found his anti-War activities, they found that some of his medals were issued under dubious circumstances, the found guys who served with him who thought he was a real dirtbag.

    And, no, my liberal friends, I don't want to rehash whether or not Kerry got a bad deal or not. Let's concede, the tactic worked, and winning ugly is still winning.

    So now the Republicans found themselves a flip-flopper from Mass (is it something in the water?) who has something on his resume that sounds good on paper, as long as no one looks to close.

    No, not Romney's record as Governor, which like Kerry's record in the Senate, was kind of unimpressive.

    It's his brilliant career at Bain Capital as a "turn-around" artist. His supporters just can't stop talking about it. Just as long as no one looks too close... oh, wait.

    How Mitt Romney made his huge fortune - Boston Globe expose

    Oh, damn.

    ROMNEY PROFITED ON FIRM LATER TIED TO FRAUD DAMON CORP. FINED AFTER SALE BY BAIN - The Boston Globe (Boston, MA) | HighBeam Research

    Bain in 1988 put $5 million down to buy Stage Stores, and in the mid-'90s took it public, collecting $100 million from stock offerings. Stage filed for bankruptcy in 2000.

    Bain in 1992 bought American Pad & Paper (AMPAD), investing $5 million, and collected $100 million from dividends. The business filed for bankruptcy in 2000.

    Bain in 1993 invested $60 million when buying GS Industries, and received $65 million from dividends. GS filed for bankruptcy in 2001.

    Bain in 1997 invested $46 million when buying Details, and made $93 million from stock offerings. The company filed for bankruptcy in 2003.

    Wow, plenty to work with here...
     
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    Improper use of terms makes your question dopey.

    Yes, the Obama campaign will make use of Mitts record of killing American jobs if he is nominated. But since it is true....it is not "swift-boating" and not in any way ugly.
     
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    I specifically said that I didn't want to rehash the Kerry thing. Kerry was his own worst enemy, because he never really refuted their charges (because they were true), he just acted all indignant.

    What he should have done is say, "As a young man, I let my passion overrule my judgement, and I didn't understand how some of my rhetoric was hurtful to those who served alongside me. I think I was right, but I should have said it differently."
     
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    Can Obama "Swiftboat" Romney?

    Pointing out an existing record is way different than simply "making one up", which is what Republicans do.
     
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    Right. Because Kerry was never at those anti-war rallies.

    He never threw his medals over the fence.

    Those other vets never served with him.

    The problem was that Kerry tried an ultimate makeover. They tried to paper over the stinking hippy war protestor and create this Rambo like war hero. But the hippy was still there, and it was obvious. And with Bin Laden out there trying to kill us, we didn't want a hippy.

    I think the same tactic can work with Romney. Beneath the "Turnaround Artist" is a corporate raider who made his fortune screwing American workers.
     
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    It isn't a tactic to point out Romney's record.

    All nutters need is a half an hour to turn on the radio and get their opinion on a subject. Give them eight years...........fuggettabbouddit!
     
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    Of course, it's a tactic.

    Let's be blunt and honest, Obama ain't going to run on "I've done a wonderful job!" Not with 9.1% unemployment, 15 trillion in debt, $3.50 gasoline. Ain't gonna happen.

    So his only tactic would really be to villify Romney. and there's a lot there to work with.

    Will it work? Yeah. Probably. Romney is an awful candidate. Weird religion, sleazy business practices, poor campaigner.
     
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    Good luck with that one. Romney has proven to be very adroit at handling questions.

    Here is one answer to everyone of these stupid "gotcha" questions:

    Effective and truthful.
     
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    One crying downsized employee > happy investor.

    And there are lots of unhappy investors and ex-employees out there.

    Mike Huckabee said of Romney, "He looks like the guy who lays you off".

    Americans are working harder for less money and a lot of them took a bath on their 401K's while guys like Romney made a killing. I simply can't imagine a worse candidate to run against Obama.
     
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    Romney is attacked because he is a businessman. Herman Cain is attacked because he turned a failing company around into success.

    Doing well in the business world seems to be something the left intends to use against Republicans.
     

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