Can Biden or Hillary possibly win?

[Katzndogz]

Of course Biden will run. He was VP, he can't imagine not running. He has already started running. He will just be primaried out like he has always been primaried out.

He was VP when Hillary was secretary of state. There is no doubt he has some dirt he intends to dish. Biden will make it a point to do whatever he can to destroy Hillary. There's no way to know whether or not these are the only two running. Andrew Cuomo has indicated his interest. I would not count Eric Holder out either. With Biden, Hillary and Cuomo, there will be only white democrats running. Now that a black man was elected, the democrats are almost beholden to run another and not dash back to all white. If democrats intend to keep the black vote, they almost have to generate interest by another black man.

 

[rightwinger]

Of course Biden will run. He was VP, he can't imagine not running. He has already started running. He will just be primaried out like he has always been primaried out.

He was VP when Hillary was secretary of state. There is no doubt he has some dirt he intends to dish. Biden will make it a point to do whatever he can to destroy Hillary. There's no way to know whether or not these are the only two running. Andrew Cuomo has indicated his interest. I would not count Eric Holder out either. With Biden, Hillary and Cuomo, there will be only white democrats running. Now that a black man was elected, the democrats are almost beholden to run another and not dash back to all white. If democrats intend to keep the black vote, they almost have to generate interest by another black man.

You are confusing Democrats with Republicans

The Democrats will run a short and sweet primary with almost all candidates dropping out in February 2016, leaving Hillary as the nominee

Meanwhile, Christie, Bush, Ryan, Paul, Cruz, Santorum, West and everyone else in the Republican Clown Car will be too stubborn and too financed to drop out. They will eat eachother alive and by the time an eventual winner (Christie) emerges, he will be too beat up and too sold out to the right to win

 

[Gracie]

The electoral votes need to be eliminated.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

I'd say Biden would do better in a general election than a Democratic primary in 2016. It's just short of a guarantee, in my opinion, that the Democrats are going to nominate a woman. Too much time in between at this point to say whether or not the Democrats can win the general, however.

 

[Steven_R]

I personally love Bob Kerry, loved Wes Clark, both military guys but there are others who could win over these two. They're both so Zen even though they're fighters, my kind of guys. John Huntsman even appealed to me but I'd have to research him. I'm so tired of the extremists running for president. Tired of listening to their claptrap.

Wesley Clark, the guy who wanted to attack Russians at Pristina Airport? The one who only managed to avoid WW3 because the British told him to get bent? That Wesley Clark? Someone with that kind of decision making is who I want in the White House.

 

[konradv]

Biden.......nope

Hillary......absolutely

Is it an opinion based on evidence and logic or the usual emotional BS the left depends on?

There's evidence and logic. The evidence is her great popularity, despite what rightist talking heads may say. The logic involves the fact that, to be beaten she has to have an opponent that's able to beat her. Short of the Republicans anointing their own "Messiah", I don't see them having anyone that can themselves nominated. Anyone who appeals to the majority of Americans gets branded a RINO and has very little chance in the primaries.

 

[Katzndogz]

All the democrat eggs are in the Hillary basket. No wonder they have to hang onto her. They have nothing else. Unfortunately for Hillary she will be the target of democrats long before she gets close to a general election. She has her record as senator and secretary of state to run on. Basically no record except some missteps and cover ups.

You just thought the 2012 republican primary was bruising.

 

[JoeB131]

All the democrat eggs are in the Hillary basket. No wonder they have to hang onto her. They have nothing else. Unfortunately for Hillary she will be the target of democrats long before she gets close to a general election. She has her record as senator and secretary of state to run on. Basically no record except some missteps and cover ups.

You just thought the 2012 republican primary was bruising.

The 2016 Republican primary will be more bruising because you will have all the loons (Tea Party, Libertarians, Religion Right) vying for getting their brand of crazy at the top of the ticket.

And after two losses, the "Establishment" won't be able to really exert the kind of authority it should.

 

[whitehall]

Biden.......nope

Hillary......absolutely

Is it an opinion based on evidence and logic or the usual emotional BS the left depends on?

There's evidence and logic. The evidence is her great popularity, despite what rightist talking heads may say. The logic involves the fact that, to be beaten she has to have an opponent that's able to beat her. Short of the Republicans anointing their own "Messiah", I don't see them having anyone that can themselves nominated. Anyone who appeals to the majority of Americans gets branded a RINO and has very little chance in the primaries.

The problem libs have is that there is no evidence of Hillary's alleged "great popularity" except in the minds of the true believers who are willing to block out everything else. Hillary's popularity is a myth and democrats had better start facing up to the reality that she shows all the symptoms of an angry (psychotic?) abused woman who wasted her entire adult life persecuting women who had relationships with her husband.

 

[Katzndogz]

All the democrat eggs are in the Hillary basket. No wonder they have to hang onto her. They have nothing else. Unfortunately for Hillary she will be the target of democrats long before she gets close to a general election. She has her record as senator and secretary of state to run on. Basically no record except some missteps and cover ups.

You just thought the 2012 republican primary was bruising.

The 2016 Republican primary will be more bruising because you will have all the loons (Tea Party, Libertarians, Religion Right) vying for getting their brand of crazy at the top of the ticket.

And after two losses, the "Establishment" won't be able to really exert the kind of authority it should.

We have all the loons, you have all the has beens.

Yes it is true, the republican establishment that thought they could get along with, and compromise with, democrats is dying. It is being replaced by a much younger and more dynamic leadership with some very different ideas. The youngest most dynamic person in the democratic party is Chris Christie and he's not even a democrat.

I don't know who the republican nominee will be, but I can tell you that if it is a Rand Paul or Ted Cruz, neither would be a nice to democrats as John McCain or Mitt Romney. Especially if that democrat is Hillary. There will be no gentlemen in those debates.

More importantly, who do democrats have if they don't have Hillary? No one. The ones who have indicated an interest is running are all east coast liberals. The next election in 2014 will be a greater indication of who might win in 2016 than a declaration of Hillary wins.

 

[whitehall]

The "bimbo eruption squad" was the most flagrant abuse of political power in many years. The liberal media fully supported Clinton even they knew that he was a sexual predator so they supported government employees hunting down and threatening innocent women who were seduced by the cool sax player. Hillary led the charge to intimidate possible witnesses and the Bubba eventually was able to spread his DNA on Monica's dress while Hillary blamed something she called "the vast right wing conspiracy" even though she had to know her husband was guilty. Hillary was literally an abused spouse who was traumatized into blocking her husband's infidelity from her conscious mind. For some reason the left wing is able to block Hillary's transgressions as well as her husband's from their conscious minds. Maybe Michael Savage was right when he said "liberalism is a mental illness".

 

[Esmeralda]

Is it an opinion based on evidence and logic or the usual emotional BS the left depends on?

There's evidence and logic. The evidence is her great popularity, despite what rightist talking heads may say. The logic involves the fact that, to be beaten she has to have an opponent that's able to beat her. Short of the Republicans anointing their own "Messiah", I don't see them having anyone that can themselves nominated. Anyone who appeals to the majority of Americans gets branded a RINO and has very little chance in the primaries.

The problem libs have is that there is no evidence of Hillary's alleged "great popularity" except in the minds of the true believers who are willing to block out everything else. Hillary's popularity is a myth and democrats had better start facing up to the reality that she shows all the symptoms of an angry (psychotic?) abused woman who wasted her entire adult life persecuting women who had relationships with her husband.

Mrs. Clinton has an excellent record as Secretary of State. She has not shown any symtoms of an angry, abused woman and has not spent any time persecuting women who had relationships with her husband. Whatever women claim to have had relations with Bill are the ones to disbelieve in every way. They are out for notoriety and money. Mrs. Clinton has virtually ignored them.

 

[Katzndogz]

Hillary has NO record as secretary of state. That's part of her problem. She did nothing. She negotiated no trade agreements, brokered no peace accords. She literally did nothing but travel, drink, dance, and coast. Just as she did as Senator. She wrote no legislation, sponsored no legislation, co-sponsored no legislation.

Her greatest accomplishment was Benghazi. That failure is pretty much the sum total of her tenure.

 

[Steven_R]

All the democrat eggs are in the Hillary basket. No wonder they have to hang onto her. They have nothing else. Unfortunately for Hillary she will be the target of democrats long before she gets close to a general election. She has her record as senator and secretary of state to run on. Basically no record except some missteps and cover ups.

You just thought the 2012 republican primary was bruising.

None of which matters. Hordes of women will vote for Hillary because of what is between her legs and for no other reason. The rest of her votes will come from Democratic strongholds and people looking for a free lunch, which she will definitely run on. The only threat to Hillary at this point is if Michelle Obama decides to run, and she might given some past statements she's made.

 

[whitehall]

There's evidence and logic. The evidence is her great popularity, despite what rightist talking heads may say. The logic involves the fact that, to be beaten she has to have an opponent that's able to beat her. Short of the Republicans anointing their own "Messiah", I don't see them having anyone that can themselves nominated. Anyone who appeals to the majority of Americans gets branded a RINO and has very little chance in the primaries.

The problem libs have is that there is no evidence of Hillary's alleged "great popularity" except in the minds of the true believers who are willing to block out everything else. Hillary's popularity is a myth and democrats had better start facing up to the reality that she shows all the symptoms of an angry (psychotic?) abused woman who wasted her entire adult life persecuting women who had relationships with her husband.

Mrs. Clinton has an excellent record as Secretary of State. She has not shown any symtoms of an angry, abused woman and has not spent any time persecuting women who had relationships with her husband. Whatever women claim to have had relations with Bill are the ones to disbelieve in every way. They are out for notoriety and money. Mrs. Clinton has virtually ignored them.

Mrs Clinton has no record as Secretary of State except for her shrieking inappropriate outburst during testimony before a congressional committee investigating Benghazi. Ms Clinton has resigned from every real position of authority since her husband retired.

 

[Esmeralda]

The problem libs have is that there is no evidence of Hillary's alleged "great popularity" except in the minds of the true believers who are willing to block out everything else. Hillary's popularity is a myth and democrats had better start facing up to the reality that she shows all the symptoms of an angry (psychotic?) abused woman who wasted her entire adult life persecuting women who had relationships with her husband.

Mrs. Clinton has an excellent record as Secretary of State. She has not shown any symtoms of an angry, abused woman and has not spent any time persecuting women who had relationships with her husband. Whatever women claim to have had relations with Bill are the ones to disbelieve in every way. They are out for notoriety and money. Mrs. Clinton has virtually ignored them.

Mrs Clinton has no record as Secretary of State except for her shrieking inappropriate outburst during testimony before a congressional committee investigating Benghazi. Ms Clinton has resigned from every real position of authority since her husband retired.

She is highly respected world wide as being a very good and very effective Secretary of State. The people who should respect her do. You all are just partisan nay sayers who hate her because she is a democrat and for no other reason. You are completely childish and irrational.

 

[Katzndogz]

All the democrat eggs are in the Hillary basket. No wonder they have to hang onto her. They have nothing else. Unfortunately for Hillary she will be the target of democrats long before she gets close to a general election. She has her record as senator and secretary of state to run on. Basically no record except some missteps and cover ups.

You just thought the 2012 republican primary was bruising.

None of which matters. Hordes of women will vote for Hillary because of what is between her legs and for no other reason. The rest of her votes will come from Democratic strongholds and people looking for a free lunch, which she will definitely run on. The only threat to Hillary at this point is if Michelle Obama decides to run, and she might given some past statements she's made.

Not all women are either democrats or support Hillary. Of course she will run on the free lunch, that's all she has. But, any democrat that runs will run on the free lunch. Big Moo won't run, but Eric Holder might.

 

[Steven_R]

I'm not pretending all women are going to vote for Hillary because she's a woman, but identity politics goes a long way. Unfortunately, a great number of women who might vote Republican sometimes will vote for Hillary simply because she's a woman.

 

[konradv]

Is it an opinion based on evidence and logic or the usual emotional BS the left depends on?

There's evidence and logic. The evidence is her great popularity, despite what rightist talking heads may say. The logic involves the fact that, to be beaten she has to have an opponent that's able to beat her. Short of the Republicans anointing their own "Messiah", I don't see them having anyone that can themselves nominated. Anyone who appeals to the majority of Americans gets branded a RINO and has very little chance in the primaries.

The problem libs have is that there is no evidence of Hillary's alleged "great popularity" except in the minds of the true believers who are willing to block out everything else. Hillary's popularity is a myth and democrats had better start facing up to the reality that she shows all the symptoms of an angry (psychotic?) abused woman who wasted her entire adult life persecuting women who had relationships with her husband.

Type "Hillary Clinton popularity polls" into Google and see what you get, more positives than negatives. If there's any truth to the "true believer" theory, it's on the part of the Hillary-haters who have to believe she's unpopular or they'd go stark raving mad, though on that score it's probably already too late.

 

[konradv]

The problem libs have is that there is no evidence of Hillary's alleged "great popularity" except in the minds of the true believers who are willing to block out everything else. Hillary's popularity is a myth and democrats had better start facing up to the reality that she shows all the symptoms of an angry (psychotic?) abused woman who wasted her entire adult life persecuting women who had relationships with her husband.

Mrs. Clinton has an excellent record as Secretary of State. She has not shown any symtoms of an angry, abused woman and has not spent any time persecuting women who had relationships with her husband. Whatever women claim to have had relations with Bill are the ones to disbelieve in every way. They are out for notoriety and money. Mrs. Clinton has virtually ignored them.

Mrs Clinton has no record as Secretary of State except for her shrieking inappropriate outburst during testimony before a congressional committee investigating Benghazi. Ms Clinton has resigned from every real position of authority since her husband retired.

LOL!!! Take off the partisan blinders. Only the truly near-sighted believe Americans see her as having made a "shrieking inappropriate outburst".