Can anyone get their hands on the NZ nutter's manifesto?

[martybegan]

I tried to get a copy, but all I get are excerpts.

From what I have seen so far this guy is all over the place.

 

[tyroneweaver]

New Zealand Shooter's Manifesto - AR15.COM

 

[martybegan]

New Zealand Shooter's Manifesto - AR15.COM

Thank you.

From a quick read it almost seems like Charles Manson and his Helter Skelter concept.

 

[OldLady]

New Zealand Shooter's Manifesto - AR15.COM

Thank you.

From a quick read it almost seems like Charles Manson and his Helter Skelter concept.

Were you expecting something logical?

 

[martybegan]

New Zealand Shooter's Manifesto - AR15.COM

Thank you.

From a quick read it almost seems like Charles Manson and his Helter Skelter concept.

Were you expecting something logical?

No, I like to read source material when it is availible before other's spin is added to it.

It doesn't matter if it is logical or if I agree or disagree with it.

I have read through Mein Kampf once or twice to get a better perspective on Hitler. One can do that without agreeing with him, or even being able to read it (Hitler tends to ramble and rant a bit in writing, it is interesting how different his writing was compared to his speeches, which were more concise).

 

[Claudette]

He probably got sick of the death cult in New Zealand and decided to shoot kill a few.

 

[JGalt]

That made for an interesting read. The part I liked the best was this:

"Above all, just don’t be stale,placid and boring. No one is inspired by Jeb Bush."

 

[OldLady]

New Zealand Shooter's Manifesto - AR15.COM

Thank you.

From a quick read it almost seems like Charles Manson and his Helter Skelter concept.

Were you expecting something logical?

No, I like to read source material when it is availible before other's spin is added to it.

It doesn't matter if it is logical or if I agree or disagree with it.

I have read through Mein Kampf once or twice to get a better perspective on Hitler. One can do that without agreeing with him, or even being able to read it (Hitler tends to ramble and rant a bit in writing, it is interesting how different his writing was compared to his speeches, which were more concise).

I see when this news was first breaking, people were afraid this guy was in some sort of larger organization that had some sort of official killing agenda. Have you heard anything more about that?

 

[martybegan]

New Zealand Shooter's Manifesto - AR15.COM

Thank you.

From a quick read it almost seems like Charles Manson and his Helter Skelter concept.

Were you expecting something logical?

No, I like to read source material when it is availible before other's spin is added to it.

It doesn't matter if it is logical or if I agree or disagree with it.

I have read through Mein Kampf once or twice to get a better perspective on Hitler. One can do that without agreeing with him, or even being able to read it (Hitler tends to ramble and rant a bit in writing, it is interesting how different his writing was compared to his speeches, which were more concise).

I see when this news was first breaking, people were afraid this guy was in some sort of larger organization that had some sort of official killing agenda. Have you heard anything more about that?

According to he manifesto, no.

But you have to remember most of these groups are not centralized or organized on purpose. It makes taking them out harder.

On the left, look at the ALF and ELF as examples, they are based on cells, and the only people you actually know of are the spokespersons, who claim no allegiance to the group, and that they only release information given to them.

 

[OldLady]

New Zealand Shooter's Manifesto - AR15.COM

Thank you.

From a quick read it almost seems like Charles Manson and his Helter Skelter concept.

Were you expecting something logical?

No, I like to read source material when it is availible before other's spin is added to it.

It doesn't matter if it is logical or if I agree or disagree with it.

I have read through Mein Kampf once or twice to get a better perspective on Hitler. One can do that without agreeing with him, or even being able to read it (Hitler tends to ramble and rant a bit in writing, it is interesting how different his writing was compared to his speeches, which were more concise).

I see when this news was first breaking, people were afraid this guy was in some sort of larger organization that had some sort of official killing agenda. Have you heard anything more about that?

According to he manifesto, no.

But you have to remember most of these groups are not centralized or organized on purpose. It makes taking them out harder.

On the left, look at the ALF and ELF as examples, they are based on cells, and the only people you actually know of are the spokespersons, who claim no allegiance to the group, and that they only release information given to them.

Don't know who those groups are, but I know Antifa is the same.
Well, we know he's not the only one who feels that way, whether he's in a group or not.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

So is he a hero or no?

Kicking out all of the non-whites was his ultimate goal, he just decided to start with muslims...isn't this what will bring utopia in the United States?

 

[JGalt]

So is he a hero or no?

Kicking out all of the non-whites was his ultimate goal, he just decided to start with muslims...isn't this what will bring utopia in the United States?

New Zealand's original people are "non-white", and he apparently didn't have a problem with those. Not really sure if "Arab" or "Muslim" qualifies as being called "non-white", either. There is no "race" of Muslims.

And the only way to bring utopia to the US is when liberalism, socialism, and communism are defeated for good.

 

[martybegan]

So is he a hero or no?

Kicking out all of the non-whites was his ultimate goal, he just decided to start with muslims...isn't this what will bring utopia in the United States?

He's an asshole whos gonna get 3 hots and a cot for the rest of his life because NZ abolished the Death Penalty in 1961 for most crimes, and in 1989 for even Treason.

If you read the thing, he wants the US to descend into civil war.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

So is he a hero or no?

Kicking out all of the non-whites was his ultimate goal, he just decided to start with muslims...isn't this what will bring utopia in the United States?

New Zealand's original people are "non-white", and he apparently didn't have a problem with those. Not really sure if "Arab" or "Muslim" qualifies as being called "non-white", either. There is no "race" of Muslims.

And the only way to bring utopia to the US is when liberalism, socialism, and communism are defeated for good.

Oh, he was very clear in what he meant as non-white -- he was talking about anyone that was not European.....he went into explicit detail about who he called invaders...

That is why he went on and on about the birthrates of whites (in the same way Steve King goes on and on about birthrates) -- he also is under the impression that whites are the rightful owners of New Zealand.

As for muslims not being a race, when people demonize muslims, them being non-white is cooked into the description -- they are not talking about the Cat Stevens type of muslim..

 

[longknife]

The New Zealand Shooter was not a Conservative

That what the Left and leftist-media is going to be screaming about this horrible event – that he was a conservative because of his hate-filled racist manifesto.

This man was the personification of evil. Every sane individual believes that. To blame American conservatives for the work of a madman, at this early hour, evinces a sad and reactive state of mind.

Conservatives believe in the sanctity of life. This monster took the lives of 49 innocent people.

Conservatives believe that the faithful should have the right to worship in peace. This monster abrogated that right in the most inhuman of ways.

Conservatives believe in the rule of law. This man broke the ultimate law, the proscription against taking another human life, and he broke it 49 times. This is an amoral mass murderer who every human being with the slightest claim to virtue knows will burn in hell.

Finally, and at the risk of being accused of politicization, I’ll note that New Zealand isn’t particularly amenable to gun rights and owning a firearm for the purposes of self-defense is strictly prohibited. In a terrorist attack where an individual has this kind of time, concealed carry could have ended this. This isn’t political, however, no more than grounding 737 MAX planes after two crashes is political. It’s a way to prevent or mitigate future disasters.

Much more @ Let's Be Clear: The Madman Who Killed Dozens of NZ Muslims Is Not a Conservative

 

[xyz]

So is he a hero or no?

Kicking out all of the non-whites was his ultimate goal, he just decided to start with muslims...isn't this what will bring utopia in the United States?

Allowing in white Australian immigrants?

The New Zealand Shooter was not a Conservative

That what the Left and leftist-media is going to be screaming about this horrible event – that he was a conservative because of his hate-filled racist manifesto.

This man was the personification of evil. Every sane individual believes that. To blame American conservatives for the work of a madman, at this early hour, evinces a sad and reactive state of mind.

Conservatives believe in the sanctity of life. This monster took the lives of 49 innocent people.

Conservatives believe that the faithful should have the right to worship in peace. This monster abrogated that right in the most inhuman of ways.

Conservatives believe in the rule of law. This man broke the ultimate law, the proscription against taking another human life, and he broke it 49 times. This is an amoral mass murderer who every human being with the slightest claim to virtue knows will burn in hell.

Finally, and at the risk of being accused of politicization, I’ll note that New Zealand isn’t particularly amenable to gun rights and owning a firearm for the purposes of self-defense is strictly prohibited. In a terrorist attack where an individual has this kind of time, concealed carry could have ended this. This isn’t political, however, no more than grounding 737 MAX planes after two crashes is political. It’s a way to prevent or mitigate future disasters.

Much more @ Let's Be Clear: The Madman Who Killed Dozens of NZ Muslims Is Not a Conservative

You could also argue that Trump is not a conservative either.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Really be clear. The New Zealand killer's manifesto is almost the same as the Norway killer's manifesto. The two of them, a world apart, saw the same thing in islam. Ignore this at your peril.

 

[B. Kidd]

Really be clear. The New Zealand killer's manifesto is almost the same as the Norway killer's manifesto. The two of them, a world apart, saw the same thing in islam. Ignore this at your peril.

I believe these nuts communicate on the dark web.

 

[xyz]

Really be clear. The New Zealand killer's manifesto is almost the same as the Norway killer's manifesto. The two of them, a world apart, saw the same thing in islam. Ignore this at your peril.

I believe these nuts communicate on the dark web.

8chan/4chan. A lot of people on here too no doubt.

 

[The Original Tree]

I think The Manifesto is a Fake. It was probably designed for misinformation purposes.

I will say one thing though. These Countries who are forcibly importing Foreign Ideologies from so called Refugees they intentionally bring inside their borders are putting a tremendous amount of stress on their native citizens, especially when such Foreign Ideologies Preach concepts such as

• Racial and Religious Superiority.
• The Inferiority of groups like Christians and Jews.
• Commands from their god to wage Jihad on every Non Muslim Nation around The World.
• Treating Women like Cattle.
• The Promotion of Segregation
• The Opposition to Separation of Church & State
• The Practice and Implementation of Sharia Law even if it is in opposition to The Rule of Law.

Those Nations are inviting a Trojan Horse of Tragedy upon their shores.