California suffering through SEVERE climate change

[westwall]

update people. This isn't going away anytime soon ESPECIALLY if we follow the carbon cheerleaders ideology:

A modern-day Dust Bowl
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As a drought unfolds slowly and devastatingly, California farmers feel desperate and abandoned
Taylor, who is now 80, has watched as some of the most viable farmland in the country has slowly withered away in recent months. In its place is the same kind of cracked, fallowed ground that his parents spoke of so long ago, perpetuated by a drought so catastrophic that many here have wondered if the dry spell that drove their ancestors toward California decades ago may be repeating itself here in a way that could be even more devastating.

Poor Dottie... I noticed you "forgot" to post the picture that go's with your link.... Here, let me correct that for you!

Gee, I wonder what "CONGRESS CREATED" means?

 

[Old Rocks]

Gee, did Congress mandate no rain in California?

 

[Stephanie]

man oh man, P.T. Barnum was right.....Now they're claiming California is suffering sever climate change

isn't parts of it a desert?

 

[Dot Com]

Gee, did Congress mandate no rain in California?

I know right? westwall can't see the forest for the trees In his defense, most all deniers here are like that.

 

[mamooth]

What's happening with the native vegetation doofus? Is it drying up an dying or is it growing business as usual? If it is in good shape, then as far as it is concerned, there is no drought...it is simply living in the environment it evolved to live in..

Get back to us when the native vegetation is drying up and dying...then, there will be an actual drought.

The Joshua Trees aren't doing well. They may vanish from Joshua Tree National Park.

Outlook Bleak for Joshua Trees : NPR

http://www.fs.fed.us/rm/pubs_other/rmrs_2011_cole_k001.pdf

 

[Dot Com]

*** update

On Top Of Withering Drought, California Smashes Heat Records

Caught in a withering drought, California is also shattering a 120-year-old record for heat.

For the first half of 2014, the state has been an average of 4.6 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than normal, and 1 degree warmer than the previous record set in 1934, according to the National Climatic Data Center.

“In the business of climate science, this is a shattering of a record,” said Jonathan Overpeck, of the University of Arizona’s Institute of the Environment. As for what’s driving this unprecedented heat, Overpeck told the Palm Springs Desert Sun, “We are fairly certain that the unusual warmth is mostly due to human-caused global warming.”

Discuss...

 

[whitehall]

Meanwhile the East Coast has record rain and 70 degree temps daytime in August when the temperatures should be in the 90's. Is it cyclic or do I have to bring up the Ice Age?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Meanwhile the East Coast has record rain and 70 degree temps daytime in August when the temperatures should be in the 90's. Is it cyclic or do I have to bring up the Ice Age?

This has been the mildest summer in Houston that I can remember,and last winter was colder than normal as well. And I expect another cold winter based on current temps.Yet I've seen no less than three charts saying we are above average temps.

 

[Dot Com]

last two posts have no sourcing

 

[JWBooth]

Its a drouth, they happen from time to time. The San Joaquin Valley was desert until irrigation.

 

[SSDD]

What's happening with the native vegetation doofus? Is it drying up an dying or is it growing business as usual? If it is in good shape, then as far as it is concerned, there is no drought...it is simply living in the environment it evolved to live in..

Get back to us when the native vegetation is drying up and dying...then, there will be an actual drought.

The Joshua Trees aren't doing well. They may vanish from Joshua Tree National Park.

Outlook Bleak for Joshua Trees : NPR

http://www.fs.fed.us/rm/pubs_other/rmrs_2011_cole_k001.pdf

You prove every day that stupid just can't be fixed....scientists "predict"? Scientists also predicted, using the same models, that the arctic would be ice free by last year...climate scientists predict and predict and predict and strangely, none of their predictions ever come true. In fact, just the opposite tends to happen...Maybe we should prepare for the joshua tree to become an invasive species causing problems across the entire country.

Further, the predicted demise of the tree is claimed to be primarily due to the demise of the giant sloth...an animal that spread the seeds of the tree...an animal that went extinct 10,000 years before the invention of the internal combustion engine...

 

[flacaltenn]

Gee, did Congress mandate no rain in California?

Of course not GoldiRocks -- but as anyone who has ever lived there can tell you -- It hardly ever rains from May to October in almost the entire state. So to be whining about this CONTINUING for the past six months is just looking silly. The TYPE of deficits that make up the current drought is about what my area gets in a couple good days. That's what happens when you recieve very little EXPECTED precipt every year. The PERCENTAGE of shortfall accumulates rapidly.. That's part of being a desert..

One week of drizzle will bring the drought to a halt on paper. And then the state will STILL face water problems like always. Because of agribiz, lack of Southern Cal. storage and increasing development. Time to can the bullet train and build some de-sal units.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

California Facing Worst Drought on Record | NOAA Climate.gov

The most populated state in the country is facing what may be its worst drought in a century of record-keeping. On January 20, the governor of California declared a state of emergency, urging everyone to begin conserving water. Water levels in all but a few reservoirs in the state are less than 50% of capacity, mountains are nearly bare of snow except at the highest elevations, and the fire risk is extreme. In Nevada, the situation is much the same.

Wonder why that could be

^ Local, not global.

 

[Crick]

Keep that in mind.

 

[elektra]

We just got two inches of rain in Riverside county California.

Last year we set a record, largest grape harvest in our history. Grapes are fat with water.

Of course California always took more water from the Colorado river, more water than what we are allowed under negotiated law with Arizona and Nevada, now that both those states take their total allotments California must take less.

And let's not forget that solar power plants have been given billions of gallons of water, as late as of yesterday, literally.

At the same time the cost to move water in california is rising faster than the reservoirs are dropping, the cost of moving the water is skyrocketing because of green energy and liberal - Democrat politics.

Shutting down two nuclear power plants in california adds to the cost of moving water.

California is about the easiest place to manufacture global warming. Especially considering half the state is made up of illegal aliens that have little education.

Enjoy the cost of your food, at least while you can, one day the liberal democrats along with the rhinos and independents will be credited with causing the first mass starvation in the usa.

 

[Old Rocks]

Solar power plants have been given billions of gallons of water? Link?

How much water does a nuclear power plant use? That column of water vapor coming out of the cooling towers represents a lot of water.

Frankly, given the quatity of your posts, you have no basis to talk of other having little education.

 

[Dot Com]

Solar power plants have been given billions of gallons of water? Link?

How much water does a nuclear power plant use? That column of water vapor coming out of the cooling towers represents a lot of water.

Frankly, given the quatity of your posts, you have no basis to talk of other having little education.

notice how the last 3+ denier posts provided no sources? Typical.

 

[westwall]

Solar power plants have been given billions of gallons of water? Link?

How much water does a nuclear power plant use? That column of water vapor coming out of the cooling towers represents a lot of water.

Frankly, given the quatity of your posts, you have no basis to talk of other having little education.

notice how the last 3+ denier posts provided no sources? Typical.

I guess they assumed you could do basic google searches. Clearly they were wrong. Here you go...


"Up to about 11,000 years ago, bear-sized shasta ground sloth roamed the deserts of the southwest. A substantial amount of their dung has been found, fossilized, packed full of intact, undigested Joshua Tree seeds, as reported in Harrington 1933:193. These fossilized heaps of dung have led researchers to believe the sloth was the main vehicle for the distribution of seeds. A few animals still transport the seed, rodents and birds carry them quite far actually, but not in the volume or distance that a shasta ground sloth would. Most of the time, when the seeds are passed through the insides of a rodent or bird, the seed dies from either being chewed up, or damaged by the stomach acids, and what is excreted is unable to sprout. When rodents cache the fruit underground, the trees may sprout, but without the seeds traveling great distances as they had previously, they are growing in the same environment as their parent trees. The problem is that this environment is changing and it is no longer the best place for a Joshua Tree."


Missing Sloths, Modern Pollution, and the Fate of the Joshua Tree – News Watch

 

[Crick]

And let's not forget that solar power plants have been given billions of gallons of water, as late as of yesterday, literally.

I also would like to see what reference tells you that solar uses billions of gallons of water. Cause my source:
Fact Check: How Much Water Does Solar Power Really Use? | Solar | ReWire | KCET says you're full of shit.

 

[elektra]

Solar power plants have been given billions of gallons of water? Link?

How much water does a nuclear power plant use? That column of water vapor coming out of the cooling towers represents a lot of water.

Frankly, given the quatity of your posts, you have no basis to talk of other having little education.

Link,

I should link to something as simple and known as Solar Power's water usage?

Nuclear Power supplies the energy needed to produce Solar Power plant components, Solar Power is too weak to provide the power its own industry needs to sustain itself.

Commercial Solar Power is a parasite, devouring more and more Fossil Fuel every year, $100's billions of dollars in. all types of raw materials and energy.

educate yourself, Old Crock,

How about I simply link to all those posts in the usmb's that Old Crock has eaten shoe? Old fool!