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Where is that condoning murder of the daughter?
I'll find it if you like. But that's not good enough for you?
and so? this somehow makes beheading all right in your book?
No, but it pokes a hole in the consistency of your argument though. I wonder if MORE muslims behead people than catholic priests fuck little boys....
The most losing argument I've ever heard.. To justify one wrong doing by pointing out another.. really really stoopit..
That's correct. The rest of civilization has evolved, Islam has not. For the record, modern Christianity is based off of the New Testament. Where did Jesus condone the killing, for honor or otherwise, of wives or daughters?
That same argument always gets me. "Modern Christianity is based off the New Testament". Well hey, then Christianity should stop teaching the Old Testament too huh? 
Not good enough? You quote a verse from the Old Testament that speaks about a man forced to honor a woman he raped by marrying her from several thousand years ago, and you equate that to muslim men killing their wives or daughters for so called 'honor' today? Seriously?
Still too much of a wus to admit what we all can see. Unsurprising. But go right ahead and make ugly stereotypes just to prove some point.I see soggy has given up all pretense.
Indeed, i stereotyped someone who is relying on stereotypes in order to make a point about the ugliness of such stereotypical application. Since this point was not deep fried in an egg batter and dipped in a bbq sauce i'll go ahead and forgive you for missing my point entirely.
Actually, there are far more "Honor Killings" in Hinduism than any other religion.
It is basically a national epidemic in India among the Hindu population.
Can't believe I'm saying this but Sunni may be right on that one.
Thousands of Women Killed for Family "Honor"
Just from 30 seconds of research:
In India, for example, more than 5,000 brides die annually because their dowries are considered insufficient, according to the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF). Crimes of passion, which are treated extremely leniently in Latin America, are the same thing with a different name, some rights advocates say
That's correct. The rest of civilization has evolved, Islam has not. For the record, modern Christianity is based off of the New Testament. Where did Jesus condone the killing, for honor or otherwise, of wives or daughters?
Jesus never did any of those things and we both know it. However, if you're going to base your teachings off Jesus then you're not basing them off Christianity. Cause obviously, Jesus never talked about abortion and yet Christianity says it's evil.
Furthermore, have you ever read The Story of Job?
Beheadings are more common in Hassan's former homeland of Pakistan and throughout the Islamic world:
There were 39.5604 murders in the US last year.
America is #7 in homicides world wide.
But let's point our finger at other countries
What predominant Christian church teaches the Old Testament? Abortion is murder, so I believe that is covered.
And there is the bottom line, stated by an American Muslim as a member of CAIR. So, if you think Islam is not a threat or should not be viewed as a threat to our freedoms and our way of life, then just keep those blinders on."Ibrahim Hooper (formerly Doug Hooper) is a white American convert to Islam and one of the founders of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). At present, he serves as a spokesman and "Director of Strategic Communications" for that organization. He holds a bachelor's degree in history and a master's degree in journalism & mass communication.
Hooper has candidly stated that while he does not endorse the violent tactics of Islamic radicals, he does share their desire to impose Islam on all of America. "I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future," he told the Minneapolis Star Tribune in a 1993 interview. "But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm going to do it through education."
Ten years later, in 2003, Hooper stated that if Muslims were ever to become a numerical majority in the U.S., they would likely seek to replace the Constitution with Islamic law (Sharia), which they view as divinely inspired and thus superior to all other legal systems."
What predominant Christian church teaches the Old Testament? Abortion is murder, so I believe that is covered.
Alright then, so you're equating Abortion to murder and believe all those women who were raped, lives were at risk, and had incest committed against them in which they got pregnant and got a abortion are murderers!
And what percentage of abortions were because of those reasons, and what percentage were because of lack of responsibility and for use as birth control? But, this conversation wasn't about abortion, it's about a whacked out 'religion' that condones the murder of women, and you'll sit here and defend a woman's right of 'choice' to kill her unborn child, while at the same time defending the murder of women by their so-called 'betters' in the name of Islam. Seems a bit hypocritical if you ask me.
And what percentage of abortions were because of those reasons, and what percentage were because of lack of responsibility and for use as birth control? But, this conversation wasn't about abortion, it's about a whacked out 'religion' that condones the murder of women, and you'll sit here and defend a woman's right of 'choice' to kill her unborn child, while at the same time defending the murder of women by their so-called 'betters' in the name of Islam. Seems a bit hypocritical if you ask me.
You may care to ignore them, but they exist. Whether the % are doesn't matter in my current argument.
Do you believe women who are raped should be to get a abortion? Yes or no?
Yeah, who cares whether we kill 100 children or 1,000,000 right? How you can defend so called women's rights in one case and defend the Islamic faith in the same breath is truly amazing.
[[47:4] "If you encounter in war those who disbelieve, you may strike the necks. If you take them as captives you may set them free or ransom them, until the war ends. Had GOD willed, He could have granted you victory, without war. But He thus tests you by one another. As for those who get killed in the cause of GOD, He will never put their sacrifice to waste".
There are many Islamophobic sites that give half verses or twisted translations to the Quran in order to spread lies and false information.
What does that have to do with you or me?
Jordan is it's own country with it's own culture.
If their laws work for them and their society, that's fine with me.
See, the problem is that the culture is savage, and the point of the various articles is that that culture is being allowed to nest in this country.
It will not relate to you, or I, when the Koran is cleansed of items like sura 47:
4 And when ye meet those who misbelieve then striking off heads until ye have massacred them, and bind fast the bonds!
And when changes, from the inside, speak with one voice about 'honor killings."
The percentage doesn't matter?
That's correct. The rest of civilization has evolved, Islam has not. For the record, modern Christianity is based off of the New Testament. Where did Jesus condone the killing, for honor or otherwise, of wives or daughters?
Jesus never did any of those things and we both know it. However, if you're going to base your teachings off Jesus then you're not basing them off Christianity. Cause obviously, Jesus never talked about abortion and yet Christianity says it's evil.
Furthermore, have you ever read The Story of Job?
What predominant Christian church teaches the Old Testament? Abortion is murder, so I believe that is covered.
Are you fucking kidding me? what christian church DOESN'T follow BOTH the OT and NT? You do realize that gideon bibles are not the sole source for christians, right?
What does that have to do with you or me?
Jordan is it's own country with it's own culture.
If their laws work for them and their society, that's fine with me.
See, the problem is that the culture is savage, and the point of the various articles is that that culture is being allowed to nest in this country.
It will not relate to you, or I, when the Koran is cleansed of items like sura 47:
4 And when ye meet those who misbelieve then striking off heads until ye have massacred them, and bind fast the bonds!
And when changes, from the inside, speak with one voice about 'honor killings."
uh, as opposed to...
Leviticus 20:13
13(A) If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
Leviticus 20:27 (English Standard Version)
27(A) "A man or a woman who is a medium or a necromancer shall surely be put to death. They shall be(B) stoned with stones;(C) their blood shall be upon them."
Leviticus 20:9 (English Standard Version)
9For(A) anyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death; he has cursed his father or his mother;(B) his blood is upon him.
Leviticus 20:10 (English Standard Version)
Punishments for Sexual Immorality
10"If a(A) man commits adultery with the wife of[a] his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
Leviticus 21:9 (English Standard Version)
9And the daughter of any priest, if she profanes herself by whoring, profanes her father;(A) she shall be burned with fire.
Exodus 22:20
20He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed.
2 Chronicles 15:12-13 (King James Version)
12And they entered into a covenant to seek the LORD God of their fathers with all their heart and with all their soul;
13That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.
Deuteronomy 13:13-19 (King James Version)
13Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known;
14Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you;
15Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.
Deuteronomy 22:20-21 (King James Version)
20But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:
21Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.
Anyone who doesn't understand the difference between Muslims and the rest of the world is completely lost. Aside from the fact that Muslims commit more acts of terrorism than the rest of the world combined, there is a huge difference in philosophy as to how they look at the world compared to the vast majority of the rest of us.
The Muslim ideal incorporates Islam as a part of government. When they are the minority, they will live under the conditions set by the majority, but it is their goal to change those conditions, and given the right circumstances, they will. When they become the majority, they make every effort to change the rules and to incorporate Islam into government through Sharia Law or forms of Sharia Law.
Does every Muslim country do this currently? No, but it is only a matter of time for those who do not. Christians, Hindus, Buddhist, Atheists, and any other belief systems that can be thought of do not try to force their beliefs upon the rest of the population, at least for the most part when it comes to the rule of law.
The point that all too many miss, is that Islam drives all of their beliefs, not only concerning themselves, but everyone else. Constantly, we are reminded that most Muslims are moderates who don't believe in the ways of Radical Islamists, yet those moderates have yet to step up to the plate and denounce these radicals with anything more than "We don't believe in that". So why is that? I'll tell you why; because in the end, the radicals and moderates all have the same end goal, the Islamification of the entire world including you and me.
If we look at the world, and pinpoint areas where Muslims are split among other belief systems, can we find any where these people live at peace with their neighbors? Even where Muslims are still a small minority, they wreak havoc on society with their acts of terrorism. Darfur, Lebanon, The Phillipines, are just a few of these places. How about India?
Now let us look at another issue. In countries where Muslims are the majority, what rights do non-Muslims enjoy? Are they anywhere near the same as the rights that Muslims enjoy in countries where they are the minority? It's just a game to Muslims, with the end game being that they will force their ways upon us when the time is right. So called moderate Muslims don't want to just live and let live. They want to live under their rules and they want us to live under their rules also. The scariest thing about it is that most of them will tell us this right to our face, yet and we still continue to make excuses for them.
For all of those who make excuses for them, have you ever wondered what the Imams are preaching in the Mosques? Do you believe they are preaching peace and tolerance to the masses?
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2136
Spokesman and one of the founders of the Council on American Islamic Relations
Wants "government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future"
Downplays threat of Islamic extremism and declined to condemn Islamic terrorist groups
And there is the bottom line, stated by an American Muslim as a member of CAIR. So, if you think Islam is not a threat or should not be viewed as a threat to our freedoms and our way of life, then just keep those blinders on."Ibrahim Hooper (formerly Doug Hooper) is a white American convert to Islam and one of the founders of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). At present, he serves as a spokesman and "Director of Strategic Communications" for that organization. He holds a bachelor's degree in history and a master's degree in journalism & mass communication.
Hooper has candidly stated that while he does not endorse the violent tactics of Islamic radicals, he does share their desire to impose Islam on all of America. "I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future," he told the Minneapolis Star Tribune in a 1993 interview. "But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm going to do it through education."
Ten years later, in 2003, Hooper stated that if Muslims were ever to become a numerical majority in the U.S., they would likely seek to replace the Constitution with Islamic law (Sharia), which they view as divinely inspired and thus superior to all other legal systems."
