but can he see Russia from his house?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Star, Aug 13, 2012.

  1. Star
    Offline

    Star Gold Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2009
    Messages:
    2,510
    Thanks Received:
    594
    Trophy Points:
    155
    Ratings:
    +1,016
    By Daniel Larison


    Foreign policy likely won't decide the election in November — unless perhaps voters learn just how aligned Ryan's world views are with those of George W. Bush

    August 13, 2012

    ✄snip>


    And let's not forget about Ryan's criticisms of the current administration. Three years ago, Ryan derided Obama's foreign policy as "Nixonian" for its perceived indifference to human rights abroad, as if it were an insult to be compared to one of the more successful Republican foreign policy records of the postwar period. Ryan is most exercised by what he perceives to be the "moral relativism" of skeptics and realists counseling a less ideological and intrusive foreign policy for the U.S., and he normally criticizes diplomatic engagement as useless. In late 2009, he jumped on the opportunity to attack the burgeoning — and modestly successful — improvement in relations with Russia as "appeasement," which suggests that Ryan sees no benefit in more constructive relations with other major powers, a belief he shares with his running mate.

    During a 2009 speech at the Council on Foreign Relations, referring to the principles of "God-given natural rights, equality, liberty, opportunity, and popular consent," Ryan noted that, "it is always in the interest of the United States to promote these principles in other nations." While this might be an admirable sentiment, there are trade-offs between U.S. interests and the promotion of our political principles in other countries. Pretending that this isn't so simply ignores the tensions between the two ideas rather than trying to find the appropriate balance between them.


    Daniel Larison has a Ph.D. in history and is a contributing editor at The American Conservative.
     
  2. buckeye45_73
    Online

    buckeye45_73 Lakhota's my *****

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2011
    Messages:
    16,994
    Thanks Received:
    1,749
    Trophy Points:
    280
    Ratings:
    +6,084
    What's funny is that quote is from SNL not Palin, so you really are a retard, you think it's true!
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  3. Sinjorri
    Offline

    Sinjorri Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2012
    Messages:
    2,037
    Thanks Received:
    267
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ratings:
    +267
    its okay bud, if Ryan can scare the left as much as Palin, hes doing something good.
     
  4. Lakhota
    Offline

    Lakhota Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2011
    Messages:
    47,734
    Thanks Received:
    4,713
    Trophy Points:
    1,855
    Location:
    Native America
    Ratings:
    +16,024
    [​IMG]
     
  5. Publius1787
    Offline

    Publius1787 Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2011
    Messages:
    6,211
    Thanks Received:
    668
    Trophy Points:
    190
    Ratings:
    +1,398
    The media wont make it about foreign policy or the economy. Certainly the debate moderators wont. Obama is a foreign policy novice and all the experts know it. generally when this is the case you hire experts. Not for Obama though! He hired political hacks. http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...-the-white-house-national-security-leaks.html
     
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2012
  6. Truthmatters
    Offline

    Truthmatters BANNED

    Joined:
    May 10, 2007
    Messages:
    80,182
    Thanks Received:
    2,223
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings:
    +2,233
    I think he sees grovers bathtub from his congressional seat
     
  7. Star
    Offline

    Star Gold Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2009
    Messages:
    2,510
    Thanks Received:
    594
    Trophy Points:
    155
    Ratings:
    +1,016

    Get real dude/dudette --- Even Republican intellectuals (is that an oxymoron?) think Ryan is a foreign policy screwball and-----and Romney -pewsh!- Romney's a George W. Bush foreign policy clone -- LOL.



    "Ryan gives every indication that he favors exporting our political principles abroad and using strongly moralizing rhetoric to berate other governments that reject them. Yet Ryan seems remarkably uninterested in funding diplomacy and development aid, and seems to conceive of U.S. power abroad mostly in terms of military strength. On foreign policy, Paul Ryan truly is a product of the era of George W. Bush." ~ The Week
     
  8. Publius1787
    Offline

    Publius1787 Gold Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2011
    Messages:
    6,211
    Thanks Received:
    668
    Trophy Points:
    190
    Ratings:
    +1,398
    Obama has a foreign policy? Try this experiment. Go to any military base and ask anyone in intel or combat arms what they think of Obama's foreign policy and then ask them who they are voting for this November. Ask for detailed answeres, especially in the combats arms fields.
     
    Last edited: Aug 14, 2012
  9. tinydancer
    Offline

    tinydancer Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2010
    Messages:
    41,534
    Thanks Received:
    9,368
    Trophy Points:
    2,070
    Location:
    Sundown
    Ratings:
    +21,070
    It's stunning how that Tina Fey clip is seared into the minds of the morons who really want to believe that Palin said it.
     
  10. Lakhota
    Offline

    Lakhota Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2011
    Messages:
    47,734
    Thanks Received:
    4,713
    Trophy Points:
    1,855
    Location:
    Native America
    Ratings:
    +16,024

Share This Page