But, Aren't Nazis and Fascists Really Left-Wingers?

[Vast LWC]

Um... no.
That would be the right.

That's what I'm talking about.

Don't believe the hype, there is more to politics than "right" and "left".

However, the sub-labeling of Libertarian and Authoritarian as "Progressive" and "Conservative" is clearly incorrect.

 

[Doc91678]

"The basic feature of our economic theory is that we have no theory at all." ~ A. Hitler

If you hadn't revealed that was a quote from Hitler, I would have sworn I heard Maobama tell the American people the same lie.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Sorry my friend, but socialists were persecuted by the nazis just like the homosexuals, Jews, liberals, etc. they had their own patch. Same can't be said for conservatives.

Yes, the National Socialist German Workers' Party persecuted socialists.

Explains why Hitler committed suicide.

I think you mean communists. In which case yes, he hated them. As well as capitalists. He hated everyone actually.

You people are some of the dumbest around. And I've fucking monitored the Hannity forums for a while.

You really think National Socialism is socialism because it's called National Socialism?

THEY AREN'T THE SAME FUCKING THING.

But if you I dunno... knew how to read and research and formulate your own opinions and actually read works on the matter, you'd know that.

So because you're so dumb... I found a nice short and sweet video that will show you why they aren't the same.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOcB31Q0bvI]Learn the Difference: Socialism vs National Socialism - YouTube[/ame]

Nazi Germany persecution of socialism had NOTHING to do with eradicating pesky same ideology rivals. Socialism and National Socialism were diametrically opposed.

History is on my side, and a little bit of reading into the persecutions committed by Nazi Germany would reveal that to you.

But you're too fucking ignorant, and you want to KEEP being ignorant.

Sadly, it seems so.

There are apparently many on the right who are indeed this ignorant.

Or some conservatives do know the truth and facts yet attempt to associate ‘the left’ with fascism in an inane and failed attempt to denigrate ‘liberalism.’

It’s truly idiotic.

 

[L.K.Eder]

"The basic feature of our economic theory is that we have no theory at all." ~ A. Hitler

If you hadn't revealed that was a quote from Hitler, I would have sworn I heard Maobama tell the American people the same lie.

eerie.

maobama is totally like hitler and shit.

case closed.

 

[bripat9643]

Despite the ridiculously simplistc dictionary definitions that seem to be the limit of RW tinfoilers (and "Liberal Fascism" and Prof. Beck- PURE DRIVEL), the rest of the world defines socialist as ALWAYS DEMOCRATIC, communism NEVER.

Only left-wing dupes "know" that. Economists know that socialism is government control of the economy. That is it's essential feature. Any other claims are political propaganda.

All rich countries are socialist, including US, since we are getting an intelligent health system that covers everyone ("We're all socialists now"- Finland P.M.)- though we have a ridiculous pander to the rich Pub Party with 20-30% of the country brainwashed MORONS.

Wrong. All rich countries are capitalist. They have all been adulterated with various measures of socialism. The more socialism they have, the slower they grow, the more debt they have, and the higher unemployment they suffer under.

If you think Hitler was a socialist, you're one of these morons, believing the Nazi propaganda. And in 1935 Germany, obviously YOU would be a Nazi- takes a certain racist gullible idiot. LOL

You offer the usual proof for this claim: none.

 

[del]

"The basic feature of our economic theory is that we have no theory at all." ~ A. Hitler

If you hadn't revealed that was a quote from Hitler, I would have sworn I heard Maobama tell the American people the same lie.

eerie.

maobama is totally like hitler and shit.

case closed.

he reminds me more of hindenberg

especially around the eyes

 

[del]

"The basic feature of our economic theory is that we have no theory at all." ~ A. Hitler

If you hadn't revealed that was a quote from Hitler, I would have sworn I heard Maobama tell the American people the same lie.

if you hadn't typed any words, i'd have no idea of what a complete asshat you are.

coincidence?

 

[bripat9643]

"The basic feature of our economic theory is that we have no theory at all." ~ A. Hitler

If you hadn't revealed that was a quote from Hitler, I would have sworn I heard Maobama tell the American people the same lie.

Left-wingers always claim they aren't ideologues. That's only one of the lies they tell that are too numerous to count.

 

[L.K.Eder]

"The basic feature of our economic theory is that we have no theory at all." ~ A. Hitler

If you hadn't revealed that was a quote from Hitler, I would have sworn I heard Maobama tell the American people the same lie.

Left-wingers always claim they aren't ideologues. That's only one of the lies they tell that are too numerous to count.

that sucks, especially when you can count only by using your fingers and toes.

 

[del]

If you hadn't revealed that was a quote from Hitler, I would have sworn I heard Maobama tell the American people the same lie.

Left-wingers always claim they aren't ideologues. That's only one of the lies they tell that are too numerous to count.

that sucks, especially when you can count only by using your fingers and toes.

note to self- never play blackjack with bripat

 

[L.K.Eder]

Left-wingers always claim they aren't ideologues. That's only one of the lies they tell that are too numerous to count.

that sucks, especially when you can count only by using your fingers and toes.

note to self- never play blackjack with bripat

a good note, for a myriad of reasons.

 

[tooAlive]

Nazi Germany persecution of socialism had NOTHING to do with eradicating pesky same ideology rivals. Socialism and National Socialism were diametrically opposed.

History is on my side, and a little bit of reading into the persecutions committed by Nazi Germany would reveal that to you.

But you're too fucking ignorant, and you want to KEEP being ignorant.

*Sigh*

We already went over this.

It didn't matter what Hitler said about his "National Socialism" and how it was different from real socialism.

Because everything about the Nazi Regime follows socialist/communist regimes to a tee.

Once again, give me an example of one socialist or communist regime that didn't have one of the following qualities:

1. Strong military
2. Persecution of certain individuals
3. Government control over means of production
4. Government control over wages
5. Government control over supply of goods
6. Ability to seize private property & redistribute at will
7. No freedom for opposing political parties

And as Foxfyre added,

8. Control of the media and other means of communication.
9. Most, not all, also pretty well disarmed most of the citizens.

I see the libs kept rambling on about Hitler being a right-winger, yet none of them bothered to refute any of this.

Communism and fascism are essentially the same thing. Persecution of certain individuals, extreme government oppression, ect.. Having both of these on each extremity of the political spectrum is useless, as the "spectrum" would then serve no purpose. You can't have the same letter at both ends of the alphabet.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Nazi Germany persecution of socialism had NOTHING to do with eradicating pesky same ideology rivals. Socialism and National Socialism were diametrically opposed.

History is on my side, and a little bit of reading into the persecutions committed by Nazi Germany would reveal that to you.

But you're too fucking ignorant, and you want to KEEP being ignorant.

*Sigh*

We already went over this.

It didn't matter what Hitler said about his "National Socialism" and how it was different from real socialism.

Because everything about the Nazi Regime follows socialist/communist regimes to a tee.

Once again, give me an example of one socialist or communist regime that didn't have one of the following qualities:

1. Strong military
2. Persecution of certain individuals
3. Government control over means of production
4. Government control over wages
5. Government control over supply of goods
6. Ability to seize private property & redistribute at will
7. No freedom for opposing political parties

And as Foxfyre added,

8. Control of the media and other means of communication.
9. Most, not all, also pretty well disarmed most of the citizens.

I see the libs kept rambling on about Hitler being a right-winger, yet none of them bothered to refute any of this.

thanks for sharing.

 

[francoHFW]

Despite the ridiculously simplistc dictionary definitions that seem to be the limit of RW tinfoilers (and "Liberal Fascism" and Prof. Beck- PURE DRIVEL), the rest of the world defines socialist as ALWAYS DEMOCRATIC, communism NEVER.

Only left-wing dupes "know" that. Economists know that socialism is government control of the economy. That is it's essential feature. Any other claims are political propaganda.

All rich countries are socialist, including US, since we are getting an intelligent health system that covers everyone ("We're all socialists now"- Finland P.M.)- though we have a ridiculous pander to the rich Pub Party with 20-30% of the country brainwashed MORONS.

Wrong. All rich countries are capitalist. They have all been adulterated with various measures of socialism. The more socialism they have, the slower they grow, the more debt they have, and the higher unemployment they suffer under.

If you think Hitler was a socialist, you're one of these morons, believing the Nazi propaganda. And in 1935 Germany, obviously YOU would be a Nazi- takes a certain racist gullible idiot. LOL

You offer the usual proof for this claim: none.

So, the whole world are left wing dupes;the EU, Canada, and Oz are socialist, except when they're rich; and Hitler was a socialist, because his propaganda said so, while he threw them into concentration camps....gotcha. LOL

Read a history book.

 

[Doc91678]

**snip**
According to the New York Times in 2003, George W. Bush tried to stop the Democrats from ruining the economy with these forced loans. He was blocked by Democrats like Barney Frank.

The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.

~~~~~~​

”These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ”The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”

Continue reading --->

Democrats caused the recession and Republicans tried to stop it « Wintery Knight

 

[tooAlive]

Despite the ridiculously simplistc dictionary definitions that seem to be the limit of RW tinfoilers (and "Liberal Fascism" and Prof. Beck- PURE DRIVEL), the rest of the world defines socialist as ALWAYS DEMOCRATIC, communism NEVER.

Only left-wing dupes "know" that. Economists know that socialism is government control of the economy. That is it's essential feature. Any other claims are political propaganda.



Wrong. All rich countries are capitalist. They have all been adulterated with various measures of socialism. The more socialism they have, the slower they grow, the more debt they have, and the higher unemployment they suffer under.

If you think Hitler was a socialist, you're one of these morons, believing the Nazi propaganda. And in 1935 Germany, obviously YOU would be a Nazi- takes a certain racist gullible idiot. LOL

You offer the usual proof for this claim: none.

So, all non Pub dupes are left wing dupes;the EU, Canada, and Oz are socialist, except when they're rich; and Hitler was a socialist, because his propaganda said so, while he threw them into concentration camps....gotcha. LOL

Read a history book.

You can't just give a word a new meaning because you don't like the original one or because the history behind it is unappealing.

Think about this for a minute; you're trying to tell us all that Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Merriam-Webster, Wikipedia, Econlib, ect.. Are all wrong in their definition of socialism?

Because it sure as hell isn't what you're trying to sell us.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Only left-wing dupes "know" that. Economists know that socialism is government control of the economy. That is it's essential feature. Any other claims are political propaganda.



Wrong. All rich countries are capitalist. They have all been adulterated with various measures of socialism. The more socialism they have, the slower they grow, the more debt they have, and the higher unemployment they suffer under.



You offer the usual proof for this claim: none.

So, all non Pub dupes are left wing dupes;the EU, Canada, and Oz are socialist, except when they're rich; and Hitler was a socialist, because his propaganda said so, while he threw them into concentration camps....gotcha. LOL

Read a history book.

You can't just give a word a new meaning because you don't like the original one or because the history behind it is unappealing.

Think about this for a minute; you're trying to tell us all that Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Merriam-Webster, Wikipedia, Econlib, ect.. Are all wrong in their definition of socialism?

Because it sure as hell isn't what you're trying to sell us.

hilarious. hahahahaha

 

[francoHFW]

Nazi Germany persecution of socialism had NOTHING to do with eradicating pesky same ideology rivals. Socialism and National Socialism were diametrically opposed.

History is on my side, and a little bit of reading into the persecutions committed by Nazi Germany would reveal that to you.

But you're too fucking ignorant, and you want to KEEP being ignorant.

*Sigh*

We already went over this.

It didn't matter what Hitler said about his "National Socialism" and how it was different from real socialism.

Because everything about the Nazi Regime follows socialist/communist regimes to a tee.

Once again, give me an example of one socialist or communist regime that didn't have one of the following qualities:

1. Strong military
2. Persecution of certain individuals
3. Government control over means of production
4. Government control over wages
5. Government control over supply of goods
6. Ability to seize private property & redistribute at will
7. No freedom for opposing political parties

And as Foxfyre added,

8. Control of the media and other means of communication.
9. Most, not all, also pretty well disarmed most of the citizens.

I see the libs kept rambling on about Hitler being a right-winger, yet none of them bothered to refute any of this.

Communism and fascism are essentially the same thing. Persecution of certain individuals, extreme government oppression, ect.. Having both of these on each extremity of the political spectrum is useless, as the "spectrum" would then serve no purpose. You can't have the same letter at both ends of the alphabet.

Yes, of course, they're both totalitarian and horrible. The reason Nazism is RW is because it keeps the corporations and is in partnership with them- That's why it it is just a giant totalitarian step from conservatism- that's FASCISM.

Communism folds all industry and commerce into the government. Nobody's for that anymore, except under duress...hell never was put in without violent revolution.

 

[tooAlive]

So, all non Pub dupes are left wing dupes;the EU, Canada, and Oz are socialist, except when they're rich; and Hitler was a socialist, because his propaganda said so, while he threw them into concentration camps....gotcha. LOL

Read a history book.

You can't just give a word a new meaning because you don't like the original one or because the history behind it is unappealing.

Think about this for a minute; you're trying to tell us all that Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Merriam-Webster, Wikipedia, Econlib, ect.. Are all wrong in their definition of socialism?

Because it sure as hell isn't what you're trying to sell us.

hilarious. hahahahaha

It is. Franco here is trying to tell us that the Communist Manifesto is in reality Right-Wing Propaganda.

 

[tooAlive]

*Sigh*

We already went over this.

It didn't matter what Hitler said about his "National Socialism" and how it was different from real socialism.

Because everything about the Nazi Regime follows socialist/communist regimes to a tee.

Once again, give me an example of one socialist or communist regime that didn't have one of the following qualities:

1. Strong military
2. Persecution of certain individuals
3. Government control over means of production
4. Government control over wages
5. Government control over supply of goods
6. Ability to seize private property & redistribute at will
7. No freedom for opposing political parties

And as Foxfyre added,

8. Control of the media and other means of communication.
9. Most, not all, also pretty well disarmed most of the citizens.

I see the libs kept rambling on about Hitler being a right-winger, yet none of them bothered to refute any of this.

Communism and fascism are essentially the same thing. Persecution of certain individuals, extreme government oppression, ect.. Having both of these on each extremity of the political spectrum is useless, as the "spectrum" would then serve no purpose. You can't have the same letter at both ends of the alphabet.

Yes, of course, they're both totalitarian and horrible. The reason Nazism is RW is because it keeps the corporations and is in partnership with them- That's why it it is just a giant totalitarian step from conservatism- that's FASCISM.

Communism folds all industry and commerce into the government. Nobody's for that anymore, except under duress...hell never was put in without violent revolution.

My goodness.. Are you serious?

The Nazis had control over the corporations. The Nazis controlled what the corporations produced. The Nazis controlled what wages were paid by those corporations. The Nazis controlled who got to live in private property. Are those right-wing ideologies?

Is that all RW propaganda too?