Blacks Against Obama’ Interrupt Campaign Rally

Obama is neither for nor against anything. He has this gift of convincing people on both sides of an issue that he's on their side, and everyone is fucking stupid enough to believe him.

What a hippo cryptical statement from a McCain supporter. Do we want to look at all the shite he has changed his mind on to get votes.

Hell, a majority of Americans surveyed believe he picked Palin to get votes, not because she has any real qualifications for vp.

If you are going to criticizd Obama, don't be so fukking partisan and ignore Mumbles flip flopping. Apparently you must be stupid enough to believe him.
 
You mean the protestors had the crowd at the convention upset like the protestors here had the crowd upset?

Yeah, McCain ignored the protestors at the convention, just as Obama did here. They both handled the situations with class.

Of course, your partisan-glazed eyes can't see that.

is this what you call class?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S07GpmsKxoA]YouTube - Code Pink Protest Interrupts McCain Speech[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDT--mx7gkQ]YouTube - Code Pink Protesters Get Inside Xcel Center[/ame]

^^ nice way to manhandle these ladies....

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMcbcIz9Qb8&feature=related]YouTube - Lady Arrested/Escorted Out at RNC[/ame]

funny how the protestors at the Republican convention were all PHYSICALLY REMOVED... whereas at this rally Obama was fine with them staying as long as they were respectful...
 
is this what you call class?

YouTube - Code Pink Protest Interrupts McCain Speech

YouTube - Code Pink Protesters Get Inside Xcel Center

^^ nice way to manhandle these ladies....

YouTube - Lady Arrested/Escorted Out at RNC

funny how the protestors at the Republican convention were all PHYSICALLY REMOVED... whereas at this rally Obama was fine with them staying as long as they were respectful...

Those ladies were not respectful. They were stripping off their clothes and were approaching the stage. The security guards removed them. The protestor in the upper level with the sign was never removed. Also, since the convention was by invitation only, they were trespassing even to be there. Thus, they broke the law. It was a public rally the Obama protestors were at.

McCain was classy, just like Obama. But I guess you can't read clearly?
 
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What a hippo cryptical statement from a McCain supporter. Do we want to look at all the shite he has changed his mind on to get votes.

Hell, a majority of Americans surveyed believe he picked Palin to get votes, not because she has any real qualifications for vp.

If you are going to criticizd Obama, don't be so fukking partisan and ignore Mumbles flip flopping. Apparently you must be stupid enough to believe him.

Maybe if you read my posts, you'd see that I realize McCain flipped on issues to get support. Here's a newsflash: all politicians do it.

I'm not talking about Obama flip-flopping, I'm talking about Obama not taking a stance on issues.
 
Those ladies were not respectful. They were stripping off their clothes and were approaching the stage. The security guards removed them. The protestor in the upper level with the sign was never removed. Also, since the convention was by invitation only, they were trespassing even to be there. Thus, they broke the law. It was a public rally the Obama protestors were at.

McCain was classy, just like Obama. But I guess you can't read clearly?

They were stripping their clothes off, I bet Mccain had flashbacks of his military days, his daughter said he loves the strippers.
 
[QUOTEI doubt it. I bet the Koreans were a lot hotter than these lesbodykes.][/QUOTE]

Not a lot of biass there J. You sure they were all queers?
 
You tell me how you're supposed to have a law that is both for women's right to choose and against abortion. Tell me how we're supposed to legalize gay marriage and keep marriage between a man and a woman.

Do that, and I'll vote for Obama.

For the record, I support gay marriage. Marriage is a legal contract between two people, it is not a religious doctrine. Denying a contract to a person based on sexuality is illegal. And, I have nothing against gays. They are people, they deserve happiness and freedom just like the rest of the world.


it's really easy js...

the abortion law should be that up to 12 weeks, the first trimester a woman should be able to obtain an abortion for any reason she choose. After 12 weeks or the first trimester a woman should only be able to obtain an abortion if the case of the mother's life being in danger or if the baby is suffering from severe deformity, which usually isn't known until 16 weeks when the first ultrasound is performed. This protects a woman's right to choose but also places limits on abortion.... I would be fine with that.... if you can't make up your mind within 12 weeks to abort then you're a dumbfuck...

the gay marriage thing is simple too... civil unions...

same rights and responsibilities as marriage but not recognized under the term marriage. The fight to keep marriage between and man and a woman is a religious argument at best. Marriage is a civil union recognized by the courts.

Change the license to read civil union for same sex people entering into a contract between two people who want to be recognized for the purpose of insurance and beneficiary rights, as a couple.

If you choose to be married in the court house, you will enter into a civil union...if you choose to be married in a church you enter into a marriage before God.

it seems pretty simple to me...I guess because whether someone has an abortion or not doesn't affect my daily life....just like two loving people who are committed to eachother wanting to be recognized legal in that committment doesn't affect me.

How do these things affect you personally js? I'm curious...
 
thanks for the video -Cp

and finally, it's nice that Obama opens up his rallys to everyone, allowing protestors the opportunity to be heard...unlike McCain who holds "invitation only" rallys....

I went to a McCain Rally here in Lebanon Ohio and I can tell you it was not invitation only. Anybody could have went and did!
 
the abortion law should be that up to 12 weeks, the first trimester a woman should be able to obtain an abortion for any reason she choose. After 12 weeks or the first trimester a woman should only be able to obtain an abortion if the case of the mother's life being in danger or if the baby is suffering from severe deformity, which usually isn't known until 16 weeks when the first ultrasound is performed. This protects a woman's right to choose but also places limits on abortion.... I would be fine with that....

That's not a compromise. Abortion is abortion, rather it's at 6 weeks or 12 weeks or 9 months.

if you can't make up your mind within 12 weeks to abort then you're a dumbfuck

If you can't make up your mind to use birth control, you're a dumbfuck. Yes, I know not all birth control is 100% effective. But, if you don't want to get pregnant, there are methods to prevent it. In the case of rape, morning after pills work wonders.

the gay marriage thing is simple too... civil unions...

How is that fair to both sides? There are some gay couples that attend churches (and some churches designed for gay couples) that would want the term "marriage." And there are some that argue that civil unions are the same as marriage and want those abolished as well.

My point is that you can't make everyone happy all the time. When you choose a side, you're against the other. Sorry, that's the way the world works.

How does it affect me personally? Gay marriage doesn't. I don't give it much thought. Abortion bothers the hell out of me because I know that innocent lives are being taken from the womb. If it doesn't bother you, so be it. I care, sorry if that's a problem.
 
Those ladies were not respectful. They were stripping off their clothes and were approaching the stage. The security guards removed them. The protestor in the upper level with the sign was never removed. Also, since the convention was by invitation only, they were trespassing even to be there. Thus, they broke the law. It was a public rally the Obama protestors were at.

McCain was classy, just like Obama. But I guess you can't read clearly?

umm they weren't "stripping" off their clothes they were taking off their jackets to reveal their PINK protest outfits...

and McCain calling them noise and static is hardly respectful IMO...
 
umm they weren't "stripping" off their clothes they were taking off their jackets to reveal their PINK protest outfits...

and McCain calling them noise and static is hardly respectful IMO...

You obviously didn't watch the whole rally. They took off more than their jackets. For all the crowd/security guards knew, they could have taken off more. They were stopped before we were allowed to find out.

And again, they were not supposed to be there, period.

McCain calling them noise and static was spot-on, because that's what they were. They were interrupting a private convention.
 
That's not a compromise. Abortion is abortion, rather it's at 6 weeks or 12 weeks or 9 months.

:lol: I knew if I came up with a way to both protect a woman's right to choose and a way to limit abortion you'd argue. You're a dumbfuck JS who just wants his own way.... it's pretty fucking pathetic actually. You ask for a logical and well reasoned solution and then shoot it down out right.

If you can't make up your mind to use birth control, you're a dumbfuck. Yes, I know not all birth control is 100% effective. But, if you don't want to get pregnant, there are methods to prevent it. In the case of rape, morning after pills work wonders.

umm no birth control, except abstenice is 100% effective.. my mother was on the pill when she got pregnant with me dumbass. Methods fail... how about you stop having sex and that's one less guy out there possibly knocking girls up...

How is that fair to both sides? There are some gay couples that attend churches (and some churches designed for gay couples) that would want the term "marriage." And there are some that argue that civil unions are the same as marriage and want those abolished as well.

if there church wants to perform a ceremony then so be it. marriage is just a WORD js... it's about the committment they make to each other..not what you call it...

My point is that you can't make everyone happy all the time. When you choose a side, you're against the other. Sorry, that's the way the world works.

yep, that's how it works... but when you try to compromise...each side CAN come to a happy agreement and then the majority are satisfied..what's wrong with that? except them there is no fighting and bickering and I know how you Repubs love that shit...

How does it affect me personally? Gay marriage doesn't. I don't give it much thought.

but you think Obama should've voted to amend the constitution to ban gay marriage?

Abortion bothers the hell out of me because I know that innocent lives are being taken from the womb. If it doesn't bother you, so be it. I care, sorry if that's a problem.

ok... so answer yes or no to these questions:
  1. are you in favor of funding to prevent unwanted pregnancy?
  2. are you in favor of education to young people on preventing pregnancy?
  3. are you for funding to provide contraceptives to under or uninsured people?
  4. do you think birth control should be covered under health insurance plans?
  5. are you in favor of programs, such as food stamps, aid for dependent children, HUD, job training, etc for women who choose to have their babies rather than abort them?
 
That's not a compromise. Abortion is abortion, rather it's at 6 weeks or 12 weeks or 9 months.



If you can't make up your mind to use birth control, you're a dumbfuck. Yes, I know not all birth control is 100% effective. But, if you don't want to get pregnant, there are methods to prevent it. In the case of rape, morning after pills work wonders.



How is that fair to both sides? There are some gay couples that attend churches (and some churches designed for gay couples) that would want the term "marriage." And there are some that argue that civil unions are the same as marriage and want those abolished as well.

My point is that you can't make everyone happy all the time. When you choose a side, you're against the other. Sorry, that's the way the world works.

How does it affect me personally? Gay marriage doesn't. I don't give it much thought. Abortion bothers the hell out of me because I know that innocent lives are being taken from the womb. If it doesn't bother you, so be it. I care, sorry if that's a problem.

it's a compromise because it limits abortion completely other than medical after 12 weeks....this will reduce abortions overnight by 20% or so....

this would be saving lives, that were being killed previously!!!!

it is most certainly worth the compromise from where we stand now imo!
 
it's a compromise because it limits abortion completely other than medical after 12 weeks....this will reduce abortions overnight by 20% or so....

this would be saving lives, that were being killed previously!!!!

it is most certainly worth the compromise from where we stand now imo!

not to toss cold water on your idea, but it's not one I'd go for. amnios aren't done til between 10 and 12 weeks, then you have to get the results and make a decision based on them.
 
some stastics that might interest people

Abortion Surveillance --- United States, 2000

The highest percentages of reported abortions were for women aged <25 years (52%), women who were white (57%), and unmarried women (81%). Fifty-eight percent of all abortions for which gestational age was reported were performed at <8 weeks of gestation, and 88% were performed before 13 weeks. From 1992 (when detailed data regarding early abortions were first collected) through 2000, steady increases have occurred in the percentage of abortions performed at <6 weeks of gestation. Few abortions were performed after 15 weeks of gestation; 4.3% were obtained at 16--20 weeks and 1.4% were obtained at >21 weeks. A total of 31 reporting areas submitted data stating that they performed medical (nonsurgical) procedures, making up 1.0% of all reported procedures from the 42 areas with adequate reporting on type of procedure.

not to toss cold water on your idea, but it's not one I'd go for. amnios aren't done til between 10 and 12 weeks, then you have to get the results and make a decision based on them.

I included in the event that the child had some medical deformity after 12 weeks because tests aren't performed for those until after the first trimester.
 
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