WinterBorn
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protectionist, you have presented absolutely no evidence of AA being used to select players in the NFL.
There are more blacks? And you automatically jump to the conclusion that some white guy had to help them get there. Perhaps a little education on your part would help you understand why more blacks in the NFL is not an automatic indicator of AA being used.
First of all, as I said before, blacks are only a few generations out of being bred for physical attributes.
Second of all, there are actual physiological differences in the races that go beyond skin color. Some of these help athletes in explosive type sports.
from: Race and Physical Differences - American Renaissance
"Though they may not always be willing to say so, sports physicians have found physical differences that give different races advantages in different sports. Whites and West Africans, for example, differ in proportions of body fat, width of hips, thickness of thighs, bone density, and proportion of fast- and slow-twitch muscle. Even East and West Africans differ in important ways that explain why they excel in different sports."
from: Black-White Differences in Physiology
"Skeletal muscle fibers are the how and why of black domination in explosive sports. This is something I’ve covered in depth. Type II fibers contract faster than type I."
"Nevertheless, fiber typing explains racial differences in sports, with somatype being another important variable in explaining racial disparities in sports. Two main variables that work in concert are the somatype (pretty much body measurements, length) and the fiber type. This explains why blacks dominate baseball and football; this explains why ‘white men can’t jump and black men can’t swim’. Physiological variables—not only ‘motivation’ or whatever else people who deny these innate differences say—largely explain why there are huge disparities in these sports. Physiology is important to our understanding of how and why certain groups dominate certain sports."
Maybe you should do a little research in certain topics. YOu have the greatest research tool in the history of mankind at your fingertips.
1. Again, and again, I never said there was evidence of AA being used to select players in the NFL. Can you read question marks ? Like in the TITLE of this thread ? I ASKED if there was affirmative action being used to select players in the NFL. And as I said in a previous post, I will welcome posts claiming AA in the NFL or claiming it NOT being in the NFL, as long as each poster brings PROOF with his claim (one way or the other). So, no, I haven't jumped to any conclusion about anything, nor have I stated any conclusion about AA.
2. You stated that "blacks dominate baseball and football". I have already repeatedly (and even with color photos) shown that statement to be totally FALSE, and with plenty of evidence. I have DONE the research and it is posted in this thread for you to have the benefit of. Does Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, Julian Edelman, Ted Williams and Stan Musial sound familiar ? .367, .344 .331 ? I have absolutely no need to restate again & again, what has already been posted, showing whites to be dominant in baseball and football.
What you have done is to decry the numbers of blacks in the NFL and other sports, thereby looking at the overall numbers. And then you have looked at a handful of individuals as roof that whites are superior.
Including Bill Belichick is misleading at best. He was not a particularly good football player. And since there are only 4 black head coaches in the NFL, it works out to be about 12.4%. Much like the population.
Tom Brady is one of the best QBs to play the game. And the top QBs are almost all white.
But blacks represent about 68% of the players in the NFL. So, as a whole, blacks dominate the NFL. Especially considering the population in the US is vastly different. The links I posted show very good cause for this, without needing AA as an excuse. Blacks have more fast twitch muscles, on average. And, on average, they have a higher amount of testosterone. These two traits are important for the athletic abilities which they have shown to be gifted at. So, since your OP was about the overall numbers in the NFL, my point stands.
As for individuals, outstanding QBs, kickers, and O linemen are more likely to be white. D linement, RBs, receivers, linebackers, safeties/secondary, and kick returners tend to be black.
Yes, Tom Brady may well be the greatest QB ever, and he is white.
But there has been no white running back that can hold a candle to Jim Brown, Walter Payton or Emmitt Smith.
No white linebacker was ever as good as Lawrence Taylor or Derrick Thomas. The last great white linebacker left the game over 30 years ago.
So you can pick a position to prove either is dominant. But the overall numbers favor the black athlete.