Black republicans...who are they really?

[beagle9]

Except there's no excuse for a company not making things in the US. None whatsoever.

I have my own solution. What we need to do is out the outsourcers.

When some asshole executive outsources a bunch of American jobs, we need to air the following commercial.

"This is Bob (Bob's picture and his full name.) Bob moved his factory to China and put all these nice people out of jobs.(Picture of the company picnic). This is where Bob lives. (Picture of his house and the address). This is Bob's wife. (picture). THis is where that bitch gets her hair done. (picture of her favorite salon). This are Bob's douchebag kids. This is where they go to school. Make sure you let Bob and his family know what you think of them."

And you think that would change one consumers mind?

Bob is not hard to find. In fact, when Bob moves, it's in the media. It's on our internet. It's on Bob's product packaging where he makes his products. Nobody cares.

I've seen companies move out of our area. One of our customers is a crate manufacturer. They make crates as large as a tractor-trailer for the process of moving machinery and equipment. We have delivered those crates to businesses that moved out.

When possible, I have always tried to discuss the move with whoever the supervisor is, and at times, even the owners themselves.

What I found is that business owners hate the idea of moving from their very own country. It's just that they have no choice. Their competitors moved out some time ago, and are now taking their customers away with lower prices because of lower taxes and labor cost in other countries. In a few cases, they tried to address this problem with their employees, but the unions convinced them to not back down and work for less money. They convinced their union members that the company was playing a game of Chicken. So the company either moves themselves, or closes down and join their former employees in the unemployment line. Either way, those jobs are gone.

. Hmmm, so shouldn't this had been addressed when NAFTA was being looked at before it passed? Sounds like Bob was placed into a domino affect that he originally didn't ever think this nation would be forced into by it all. So is NAFTA corrupt, and should it be repealed somehow? Should Trump replace it with something that places Bob back onto a level playing field or should we continue the bleeding of American middle class jobs in favor of the rich who could care less to what has happened to the very foundation in which this nation has stood upon ? Where does the so called morals, decency and ethics come back into play in it all ? Should the nation lose it's complete sovereignty and identity that it once had by it all or maybe try to let Trump address the problem more better ?

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Raising the minimum wage....according to this moron....is tantamount to "enslaving" people.

Why is it you don't understand what a vicious circle this creates? Spell out the benefits vs. the consequences?

Seocndly, the implication by this idiot is clear........since you need an ID to get food stamps, you should not bitch about showing that ID when voting

Common sense didn't make it into your DNA did it? You need ID to do the most minor things, yet you seem to think ID for voting is irrelevant? You can't drive without it, you can't buy alcoholic beverages without it, you can't leave or enter a country legally without it, you can't enter a public school with out it, and the list goes on and on and on...

Does your tongue get you in trouble in your real life as much as it does here?

Don't you know how much the left loves regulations? Except when they are found on the reviewing end of them., then they throw their tantrums over government interference.

Not all regulations are bad or good. Stop talking about regulations like it's a bad word. It shows us you're a rush or foxbot

Conservatives are willing to concede to the need of having fingerprint background checks that exist surrounding the obtaining of guns, even as its a clear Amendment right written under the constitution. Yet it is true that liberals are not willing to have any oversight on securing the integrity of voting rights, using racism surrounding that is contrary to liberal ideology, which speaks to the integrity of the party. They scream voter suppression yet lack any case of where one has actually resulted from voter ID. They call republicans racist but can't provide any example of it, except to say if you are a conservative with an alternative view on an issue you are deemed a racist for not supporting the liberal ideology of government.

I'm not going to go show you how when and where all over America Republicans have passed voting laws all designed to make voting harder. Some of the laws they passed have even been struck down by the supreme Court.

... and some state laws have been upheld with no evidence of voter suppression, as no cases have been recorded resulting from voter ID. Again, we can have protective measures to secure "responsible" gun rights, gut none exist for voter integrity. If conservatives can allow fingerprinting and background checks for a constitutional right specified under the second amendment, then why not guarantee voter integrity from a group that believes in representing the better party through mere bumper sticker slogans like transparency and political integrity?

 

[beagle9]

The right way to answer the question of African-American loyalty is to treat blacks as rational citizens voting in their self-interest. And while the sluggish economy of the Obama years may seem like a bad case for Democratic loyalty, that’s not true of Democratic administrations overall. According to a recent paper from Zoltan L. Hajnal and Jeremy D. Horowitz—both political scientists at the University of California–San Diego—there’s clear evidence that when the nation is governed by Democrats, black well-being “improves dramatically” across multiple dimensions.

Specifically, looking at data from 1948 to 2010, Hajnal and Horowitz found that “African Americans tend to experience substantial gains under Democratic presidents whereas they tend to incur significant losses or remain stagnant under Republicans.” On average, under Democratic presidents, blacks gained $895 in annual income, saw a 2.41 point drop in their poverty rate, and a 0.36 point drop in their unemployment rate. By contrast, under Republicans, blacks gained $142 a year, along with a 0.15 point increase in poverty and a 0.39 point increase in unemployment.

What’s more, this was true in relative terms as well. As they write, “[W]hether we look at the gap between blacks and whites or at the ratio of black to white outcomes, the patterns are essentially identical: Republican administrations were, on average, bad for African Americans and Democratic administrations were, on average, good for them, both in absolute and relative terms.”

The cumulative (i.e. year-after-year) differences are huge. Across 16 years of Democratic governance, the black poverty rate, for example, declined by nearly 40 points. Across 35 years of Republican governance, by contrast, it increased by 3 points. Indeed, during most years of Republican presidential leadership, black poverty grew and black unemployment increased.

Do Minorities Do Better Under Democrats?

. Well of course blacks done better, and now it's the illegal immigrants, because Democrats will give away the farm for votes & power. Their give aways are targeted at specific audiences, and those audiences eat it up.. The repubs try and get back to fiscal responsibility, and so of course things slow down when trying to do things right, and especially when trying to stop the money train from leaving with all our hard earned money on board. Now it's taxpayers on the hook for yet one more idiotic Democrat policy, and that new policy is geared at us the taxpayers now paying for transgendered sex changes in the military ? Kidding me right. The reason you see the up's and downs between the two when in power, is because one is be held up by free non-incentive so called entitlements, and the other expects people to be responsible when cutting back on the entitlements programs in order to spur independency instead of dependency.

 

[nat4900]

They scream voter suppression yet lack any case of where one has actually resulted from voter ID.

Bullshit........Your ilk's voter ID laws are "solutions" still in search of a problem that does not exist ...For a bunch of right wingers who INSIST on less government intrusion, why additional voter ID laws when there has NEVER been any proof that an election was fraudulently won????

 

[JoeB131]

You already said that in fifty other threads. Next will be abortion then white privilege. Damn your broken record.

YOu can't say it often enough. Maybe if your side actually did something about it, we might be on to something.

 

[Crixus]

The right way to answer the question of African-American loyalty is to treat blacks as rational citizens voting in their self-interest. And while the sluggish economy of the Obama years may seem like a bad case for Democratic loyalty, that’s not true of Democratic administrations overall. According to a recent paper from Zoltan L. Hajnal and Jeremy D. Horowitz—both political scientists at the University of California–San Diego—there’s clear evidence that when the nation is governed by Democrats, black well-being “improves dramatically” across multiple dimensions.

Specifically, looking at data from 1948 to 2010, Hajnal and Horowitz found that “African Americans tend to experience substantial gains under Democratic presidents whereas they tend to incur significant losses or remain stagnant under Republicans.” On average, under Democratic presidents, blacks gained $895 in annual income, saw a 2.41 point drop in their poverty rate, and a 0.36 point drop in their unemployment rate. By contrast, under Republicans, blacks gained $142 a year, along with a 0.15 point increase in poverty and a 0.39 point increase in unemployment.

What’s more, this was true in relative terms as well. As they write, “[W]hether we look at the gap between blacks and whites or at the ratio of black to white outcomes, the patterns are essentially identical: Republican administrations were, on average, bad for African Americans and Democratic administrations were, on average, good for them, both in absolute and relative terms.”

The cumulative (i.e. year-after-year) differences are huge. Across 16 years of Democratic governance, the black poverty rate, for example, declined by nearly 40 points. Across 35 years of Republican governance, by contrast, it increased by 3 points. Indeed, during most years of Republican presidential leadership, black poverty grew and black unemployment increased.

Do Minorities Do Better Under Democrats?

"The right way to answer the question of African-American loyalty is to treat blacks as rational citizens voting in their self-interest. And while the sluggish economy of the Obama years may seem like a bad case for Democratic loyalty, that’s not true of Democratic administrations overall. According to a recent paper from Zoltan L. Hajnal and Jeremy D. Horowitz—both political scientists at the University of California–San Diego—there’s clear evidence that when the nation is governed by Democrats, black well-being “improves dramatically” across multiple dimensions."

Political hacks doing political hackery nothing more. How about we find this lady and ask her how much her life has improved under democrat rule,




Wonder how that mortgage thingy went. I would also like to know about that free gas. All this time, black, white and brown broke or flush they still had to pay for it. Whats is Barack Hussein Obama's answer ? Have these guys come across the border,

But they only want to pick lettuce. Meh.

 

[nat4900]

... and some state laws have been upheld with no evidence of voter suppression, as no cases have been recorded resulting from voter ID. Again, we can have protective measures to secure "responsible" gun rights, gut none exist for voter integrity. If conservatives can allow fingerprinting and background checks for a constitutional right specified under the second amendment, then why not guarantee voter integrity from a group that believes in representing the better party through mere bumper sticker slogans like transparency and political integrity?

Another bullshit post.......NO ballot legal or otherwise has EVER killed another human being....You comparsion between buying a lethal weapons and voting rights is ludicrous.

You know who is disenfranchised by voter IDs???? Just ask republican county clerks.......There are thousands of people who do not drive, have no birth certificate and don't buy liquors......want to guess the hue of these folks' faces ???

 

[JoeB131]

Right, because we have no idea where our products are made nor how the CEO or President of a company live.

I guess that falls right in line with idiot's idea that we need to put calorie count on all food items in a menu because Americans can't figure out a big mac combo and large chocolate shake will make you put on weight.

Liberals think all Americans are stupid and need to be guided around through life.

YOu miss the point entirely. You don't think shaming CEO's is going to make them behave better, then you don't know how most CEO's are about their image.

Rush Limbaugh was against NAFTA. I don't know his reasons for it.

He thought they were going to put a tariff on Dominican Rent Boys?

 

[nat4900]

He thought they were going to put a tariff on Dominican Rent Boys?

...and NAFTA may have made it harder for Rush to get his daily doses of oxy's.???...LOL

 

[Crixus]

You already said that in fifty other threads. Next will be abortion then white privilege. Damn your broken record.

YOu can't say it often enough. Maybe if your side actually did something about it, we might be on to something.

No you cant if your employed and for the most part happy with how its all going. our biggest problem in this country are politicians on both sides pandering to voting blocks. Their biggest problem is the voting blocks are not buying it anymore because nothing is changing except the date on the calendar.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Conservatives are willing to concede to the need of having fingerprint background checks that exist surrounding the obtaining of guns, even as its a clear Amendment right written under the constitution. Yet it is true that liberals are not willing to have any oversight on securing the integrity of voting rights, using racism surrounding that is contrary to liberal ideology, which speaks to the integrity of the party. They scream voter suppression yet lack any case of where one has actually resulted from voter ID. They call republicans racist but can't provide any example of it, except to say if you are a conservative with an alternative view on an issue you are deemed a racist for not supporting the liberal ideology of government.

There were 33,000 gun deaths last year. How many deaths were their due to "voter fraud"?

Truth is Conservative Republucans aren't the ones afraid of including some government protective oversight, after all they are willing to include fingerprinting and background checks when obtaining a gun. You can't really say the same when it comes to liberals, they throw more tantrums than the NRA when it comes to imposing some form of oversight. You won't find any bigger hypocrites of government based regulations than a liberal democrat.

 

[JoeB131]

No you cant if your employed and for the most part happy with how its all going. our biggest problem in this country are politicians on both sides pandering to voting blocks. Their biggest problem is the voting blocks are not buying it anymore because nothing is changing except the date on the calendar.

What did that have to do with the point I made?

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

They scream voter suppression yet lack any case of where one has actually resulted from voter ID.

Bullshit........Your ilk's voter ID laws are "solutions" still in search of a problem that does not exist ...For a bunch of right wingers who INSIST on less government intrusion, why additional voter ID laws when there has NEVER been any proof that an election was fraudulently won????

So a close election like the one for Gore / Bush wouldn't require voter ID to ensure the integrity of those votes that were cast, because it's so clear to liberals the election was never stolen.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Fuck that .. and fuck people who think there is a difference.

And you're calling who a racist? Need to do a little self reflecting before you label anyone...

sure

Hypocrisy looks like you...

Gee .. did you accomplish that all by yourself.

Moron :0)

It's sad you have nothing but innuendo, you can't even list one Conservative policy that harms the Black community...

It's clear you have followed and not lead anyone, your nothing more than a racist that you cry so much about hating...

You claim to have helped young blacks, based on the crap you have posted they would be better off if you just left them alone...

:0) Here's the really good news .. what you think doesn't mean shit. I'm serious.

If you can't think of any conservative policy that black people stand firmly against, then you aren't looking for serious conversation. I'm not looking to waste time talking to a knucklehead.

I don't need you to answer the question of why no majority of non-white people support the Republican Party .. including Jewish people ,, including white women. I don;t need you to answer that question .. it answers itself.

.. and in case you missed it .. I do have civil conversations here with people who speak with civility and not ask dumb questions. In fact, you've read one. :0) I respect that poster .. you're just a knucklehead.

 

[Crixus]

No you cant if your employed and for the most part happy with how its all going. our biggest problem in this country are politicians on both sides pandering to voting blocks. Their biggest problem is the voting blocks are not buying it anymore because nothing is changing except the date on the calendar.

What did that have to do with the point I made?

There was no point. No different point anyway.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

You guys blame us for everything even your own failures.

The other day you guys were saying places like Detroit suck because they are run by liberals. Now you're claiming cities and states run by cons suck because of liberals? What an intellectually dishonest simpleton you are

For right wingers "blaming liberals" for all that may be wrong with our society, is a hell of a lot easier (and dumber) than coming to term with their own screwed up mindset.

They can't even spell introspective. :0) They no idea what that means.

Yea but don't you think blacks in places like Chicago Detroit Newark Compton and Ferguson are guilty of this too?

I think mlk would give young black men this same advice. Be well spoken. Get an education. Don't have kids and then don't raise them right. In other words stop giving whites reasons to discriminate. For example If a well spoken black doesn't get the job it looks racist but when the black guy can't speak intelligently you give whites justification why they didn't hire the black.

Not really. Well spoken folks of every race miss out on the jobs. Goin the extra mile to be worth hiring for the job means allot to. Having reasonable expectations going in means allot as well. You ain't going to be hired right up to the top just because. Success requires work, good work requires a good work ethic. The gangsta thug needs to stop being canonized as a saint. And that brings I full circle. If a black guy gets pants that fit, pulls out the grill and go's and works his peers call him an uncle Tom or house ******, when in fact all the guy is doing is making an honest buck. The left has trained minorities to be victims and if that were ever to change it would be the end of the Democrat party as it is and has been for years.

Maybe you spend too much time watching rap videos .. but that isn't the real world, that isn't the story, it's just part of the story.

Obviously you don't hear much of any other part of the same story.

NIELSEN: AFRICAN-AMERICANS ARE INCREASINGLY AFFLUENT, EDUCATED AND DIVERSE

HOUSEHOLD INCOMES ON THE RISE
The median income of black households has increased 3.5% over the past three years from 2011-2013, as The Great Recession has waned. During this period, real median household income grew more among African-American households (+$793) than among white households (+$433) and among the total population, according to the U.S. Census.

From 2005-2013, the most recent data available, black income growth outpaced that of non-Hispanic whites at every level above $60,000. During that same time period, the largest increase for black households occurred in the number of households earning over $200,000, with an increase of 138%, compared with an increase of 74% for the total population.

You don't hear about it because the Right had nothing to do with it .. the Left did.

No one suggests that some guy, white or black, who wears his pants below his ass should be granted anything but the opportunity to pull his pants up and grow the fuck up.

You don't know the story .. and I'm not suggesting that you should. You're a republican.

 

[nat4900]

So a close election like the one for Gore / Bush wouldn't require voter ID to ensure the integrity of those votes that were cast, because it's so clear to liberals the election was never stolen.

Faulty recall there, right winger....Most democrats object to the SCOTUS stepping in to stop the recount as advised by the FL Supreme Court....Let's not go there and stick to the "illegal voting" issue.

 

[Crixus]

You guys blame us for everything even your own failures.

The other day you guys were saying places like Detroit suck because they are run by liberals. Now you're claiming cities and states run by cons suck because of liberals? What an intellectually dishonest simpleton you are

For right wingers "blaming liberals" for all that may be wrong with our society, is a hell of a lot easier (and dumber) than coming to term with their own screwed up mindset.

They can't even spell introspective. :0) They no idea what that means.

Yea but don't you think blacks in places like Chicago Detroit Newark Compton and Ferguson are guilty of this too?

I think mlk would give young black men this same advice. Be well spoken. Get an education. Don't have kids and then don't raise them right. In other words stop giving whites reasons to discriminate. For example If a well spoken black doesn't get the job it looks racist but when the black guy can't speak intelligently you give whites justification why they didn't hire the black.

Not really. Well spoken folks of every race miss out on the jobs. Goin the extra mile to be worth hiring for the job means allot to. Having reasonable expectations going in means allot as well. You ain't going to be hired right up to the top just because. Success requires work, good work requires a good work ethic. The gangsta thug needs to stop being canonized as a saint. And that brings I full circle. If a black guy gets pants that fit, pulls out the grill and go's and works his peers call him an uncle Tom or house ******, when in fact all the guy is doing is making an honest buck. The left has trained minorities to be victims and if that were ever to change it would be the end of the Democrat party as it is and has been for years.

Maybe you spend too much time watching rap videos .. but that isn't the real world, that isn't the story, it's just part of the story.

Obviously you don't hear much of any other part of the same story.

NIELSEN: AFRICAN-AMERICANS ARE INCREASINGLY AFFLUENT, EDUCATED AND DIVERSE

HOUSEHOLD INCOMES ON THE RISE
The median income of black households has increased 3.5% over the past three years from 2011-2013, as The Great Recession has waned. During this period, real median household income grew more among African-American households (+$793) than among white households (+$433) and among the total population, according to the U.S. Census.

From 2005-2013, the most recent data available, black income growth outpaced that of non-Hispanic whites at every level above $60,000. During that same time period, the largest increase for black households occurred in the number of households earning over $200,000, with an increase of 138%, compared with an increase of 74% for the total population.

You don't hear about it because the Right had nothing to do with it .. the Left did.

No one suggests that some guy, white or black, who wears his pants below his ass should be granted anything but the opportunity to pull his pants up and grow the fuck up.

You don't know the story .. and I'm not suggesting that you should. You're a republican.

Then why are you and your democrat slave master always screaming about racism? Y'all are either okay or not. which is it?

 

[Crixus]

So a close election like the one for Gore / Bush wouldn't require voter ID to ensure the integrity of those votes that were cast, because it's so clear to liberals the election was never stolen.

Faulty recall there, right winger....Most democrats object to the SCOTUS stepping in to stop the recount as advised by the FL Supreme Court....Let's not go there and stick to the "illegal voting" issue.

Again you slave masters going on about the recounted recount. y'all only keep beating that dead horse because you guys have been getting your asses beat since 2010.

 

[beagle9]

They can't even spell introspective. :0) They no idea what that means.

Yea but don't you think blacks in places like Chicago Detroit Newark Compton and Ferguson are guilty of this too?

I think mlk would give young black men this same advice. Be well spoken. Get an education. Don't have kids and then don't raise them right. In other words stop giving whites reasons to discriminate. For example If a well spoken black doesn't get the job it looks racist but when the black guy can't speak intelligently you give whites justification why they didn't hire the black.

Not really. Well spoken folks of every race miss out on the jobs. Goin the extra mile to be worth hiring for the job means allot to. Having reasonable expectations going in means allot as well. You ain't going to be hired right up to the top just because. Success requires work, good work requires a good work ethic. The gangsta thug needs to stop being canonized as a saint. And that brings I full circle. If a black guy gets pants that fit, pulls out the grill and go's and works his peers call him an uncle Tom or house ******, when in fact all the guy is doing is making an honest buck. The left has trained minorities to be victims and if that were ever to change it would be the end of the Democrat party as it is and has been for years.

Blacks read this shit and laugh. Sorry they realize you are fos. Your schtick sounds good but you have no idea what the facts on the ground are.

It's like Republicans claiming they could solve our Isis problem. Sure they could, NOT!

Um, no one can solve black people's problems. That's not even governments job. Government has promised to fix stuff for black people for decades and all blacks have got for their support is poisoned water, food stamps and not much more. The fact that black people like Herman Cain and Ben Carson are hated so much is because they are not victims. Democrats needs the minorities to remain victims so they have a voting block. Without victims there is no Democrat party.

Ha ha GOP gov Rick Snyder appoints an emergency financial manager and poisoned flint.

I won't even take you seriously now. I was going to agree with your first point then you went Coco for Coco puffs.

But blacks do need to fix the problem no matter who's at fault. They don't need to vote GOP but they do need to take your advice on the importance of family. That's step 1. How do you stop young black women from getting pregnant by young black men who won't be good fathers? This is who's producing most of the criminals.

And if they can do it maybe white trash will copy them. They already copy everything blacks do.

. Whites already copy everything blacks do eh ? Even getting pregnant like rabbits now, and then ending up as single moms raising little gremlins for whom they can't control in a bad economic environment ? Do tell us about all the harsh influences that black culture has had on white culture now.