Bill Clinton was a sleazy dog of a human being, but he kicked ass at president

[rightwinger]

lets not forget his biggest accomplishment

Why do you guys keep bringing up Bush?

 

[Oddball]

Yes....Let's "liberate" a six-year old kid by a military storming of his family's home and wave some automatic weapons in their faces.

Classic move by the most overtly thuggish Justice(?) Department in my lifetime.

 

[rightwinger]

Yes....Let's "liberate" a six-year old kid by a military storming of his family's home and wave some automatic weapons in their faces.

Classic move by the most overtly thuggish Justice(?) Department in my lifetime.

Typical wimpy republican response

So soft on law and order

 

[elvis]

lets not forget his biggest accomplishment

Why do you guys keep bringing up Bush?

yeah dipshit. Clitoris had three chances to arrest him and didn't. You love to play the role of Lewinsky, don't you?

 

[rightwinger]

lets not forget his biggest accomplishment

Why do you guys keep bringing up Bush?

yeah dipshit. Clitoris had three chances to arrest him and didn't. You love to play the role of Lewinsky, don't you?

Bush was asleep at the switch and allowed the largest terrorist attack in US history to occur.
Typical republican....soft on terrorism

 

[namvet]

Why do you guys keep bringing up Bush?

yeah dipshit. Clitoris had three chances to arrest him and didn't. You love to play the role of Lewinsky, don't you?

Bush was asleep at the switch and allowed the largest terrorist attack in US history to occur.
Typical republican....soft on terrorism

and just who was asleep on this one and the 93 attack ????

 

[elvis]

Why do you guys keep bringing up Bush?

yeah dipshit. Clitoris had three chances to arrest him and didn't. You love to play the role of Lewinsky, don't you?

Bush was asleep at the switch and allowed the largest terrorist attack in US history to occur.
Typical republican....soft on terrorism

Faster, Monica, faster.

 

[elvis]

yeah dipshit. Clitoris had three chances to arrest him and didn't. You love to play the role of Lewinsky, don't you?

Bush was asleep at the switch and allowed the largest terrorist attack in US history to occur.
Typical republican....soft on terrorism

and just who was asleep on this one and the 93 attack ????

Bush was supposed to do in eight months what Clinton failed to do in eight years.

 

[namvet]

yeah dipshit. Clitoris had three chances to arrest him and didn't. You love to play the role of Lewinsky, don't you?

Bush was asleep at the switch and allowed the largest terrorist attack in US history to occur.
Typical republican....soft on terrorism

Faster, Monica, faster.

on your knees bitch

 

[elvis]

Yes....Let's "liberate" a six-year old kid by a military storming of his family's home and wave some automatic weapons in their faces.

Classic move by the most overtly thuggish Justice(?) Department in my lifetime.

Typical wimpy republican response

So soft on law and order

Did Olberführer tell you to say that?

 

[Meister]

Why do you guys keep bringing up Bush?

yeah dipshit. Clitoris had three chances to arrest him and didn't. You love to play the role of Lewinsky, don't you?

Bush was asleep at the switch and allowed the largest terrorist attack in US history to occur.
Typical republican....soft on terrorism

One of your more asinine comments Rightwinger

 

[rightwinger]

History shows Bush had no interest in combating terrorism. He saw his glory in reviving the cold war and was actively looking to revive Star Wars when the planes hit.

8 months into his Presidency, Bush has a hard time blaming the other guy

 

[elvis]

History shows Bush had no interest in combating terrorism. He saw his glory in reviving the cold war and was actively looking to revive Star Wars when the planes hit.

8 months into his Presidency, Bush has a hard time blaming the other guy

Swallow, whore, swallow.

 

[Shogun]

Bush was asleep at the switch and allowed the largest terrorist attack in US history to occur.
Typical republican....soft on terrorism

and just who was asleep on this one and the 93 attack ????

Bush was supposed to do in eight months what Clinton failed to do in eight years.

and did he?

 

[rightwinger]

The Bush administration did not want to be bothered with terrorism. It did not have the prestige that re-fighting the cold war had

Two Months Before 9/11, an Urgent Warning to Rice

Two Months Before 9/11, an Urgent Warning to Rice - washingtonpost.com

Sunday, October 1, 2006

On July 10, 2001, two months before the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, then-CIA Director George J. Tenet met with his counterterrorism chief, J. Cofer Black, at CIA headquarters to review the latest on Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaeda terrorist organization. Black laid out the case, consisting of communications intercepts and other top-secret intelligence showing the increasing likelihood that al-Qaeda would soon attack the United States. It was a mass of fragments and dots that nonetheless made a compelling case, so compelling to Tenet that he decided he and Black should go to the White House immediately.

Tenet called Condoleezza Rice, then national security adviser, from the car and said he needed to see her right away. There was no practical way she could refuse such a request from the CIA director.

For months, Tenet had been pressing Rice to set a clear counterterrorism policy, including specific presidential orders called "findings" that would give the CIA stronger authority to conduct covert action against bin Laden. Perhaps a dramatic appearance -- Black called it an "out of cycle" session, beyond Tenet's regular weekly meeting with Rice -- would get her attention.

Tenet had been losing sleep over the recent intelligence he'd seen. There was no conclusive, smoking-gun intelligence, but there was such a huge volume of data that an intelligence officer's instinct strongly suggested that something was coming. He and Black hoped to convey the depth of their anxiety and get Rice to kick-start the government into immediate action.

He did not know when, where or how, but Tenet felt there was too much noise in the intelligence systems. Two weeks earlier, he had told Richard A. Clarke, the National Security Council's counterterrorism director: "It's my sixth sense, but I feel it coming. This is going to be the big one."


But Tenet had been having difficulty getting traction on an immediate bin Laden action plan, in part because Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld had questioned all the National Security Agency intercepts and other intelligence. Could all this be a grand deception? Rumsfeld had asked. Perhaps it was a plan to measure U.S. reactions and defenses.

Tenet had the NSA review all the intercepts, and the agency concluded they were of genuine al-Qaeda communications. On June 30, a top-secret senior executive intelligence brief contained an article headlined "Bin Laden Threats Are Real."

Tenet hoped his abrupt request for an immediate meeting would shake Rice. He and Black, a veteran covert operator, had two main points when they met with her. First, al-Qaeda was going to attack American interests, possibly in the United States itself. Black emphasized that this amounted to a strategic warning, meaning the problem was so serious that it required an overall plan and strategy. Second, this was a major foreign policy problem that needed to be addressed immediately. They needed to take action that moment -- covert, military, whatever -- to thwart bin Laden.

The United States had human and technical sources, and all the intelligence was consistent, the two men told Rice. Black acknowledged that some of it was uncertain "voodoo" but said it was often this voodoo that was the best indicator.

Tenet and Black felt they were not getting through to Rice. She was polite, but they felt the brush-off. President Bush had said he didn't want to swat at flies.

As they all knew, a coherent plan for covert action against bin Laden was in the pipeline, but it would take some time. In recent closed-door meetings the entire National Security Council apparatus had been considering action against bin Laden, including using a new secret weapon: the Predator unmanned aerial vehicle, or drone, that could fire Hellfire missiles to kill him or his lieutenants. It looked like a possible solution, but there was a raging debate between the CIA and the Pentagon about who would pay for it and who would have authority to shoot.

Besides, Rice seemed focused on other administration priorities, especially the ballistic missile defense system that Bush had campaigned on. She was in a different place.

 

[elvis]

and just who was asleep on this one and the 93 attack ????

Bush was supposed to do in eight months what Clinton failed to do in eight years.

and did he?

No, and that is my point. Both Presidents failed us.

 

[namvet]

The Bush administration did not want to be bothered with terrorism. It did not have the prestige that re-fighting the cold war had

Two Months Before 9/11, an Urgent Warning to Rice

Two Months Before 9/11, an Urgent Warning to Rice - washingtonpost.com

Sunday, October 1, 2006

On July 10, 2001, two months before the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, then-CIA Director George J. Tenet met with his counterterrorism chief, J. Cofer Black, at CIA headquarters to review the latest on Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaeda terrorist organization. Black laid out the case, consisting of communications intercepts and other top-secret intelligence showing the increasing likelihood that al-Qaeda would soon attack the United States. It was a mass of fragments and dots that nonetheless made a compelling case, so compelling to Tenet that he decided he and Black should go to the White House immediately.

Tenet called Condoleezza Rice, then national security adviser, from the car and said he needed to see her right away. There was no practical way she could refuse such a request from the CIA director.

For months, Tenet had been pressing Rice to set a clear counterterrorism policy, including specific presidential orders called "findings" that would give the CIA stronger authority to conduct covert action against bin Laden. Perhaps a dramatic appearance -- Black called it an "out of cycle" session, beyond Tenet's regular weekly meeting with Rice -- would get her attention.

Tenet had been losing sleep over the recent intelligence he'd seen. There was no conclusive, smoking-gun intelligence, but there was such a huge volume of data that an intelligence officer's instinct strongly suggested that something was coming. He and Black hoped to convey the depth of their anxiety and get Rice to kick-start the government into immediate action.

He did not know when, where or how, but Tenet felt there was too much noise in the intelligence systems. Two weeks earlier, he had told Richard A. Clarke, the National Security Council's counterterrorism director: "It's my sixth sense, but I feel it coming. This is going to be the big one."


But Tenet had been having difficulty getting traction on an immediate bin Laden action plan, in part because Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld had questioned all the National Security Agency intercepts and other intelligence. Could all this be a grand deception? Rumsfeld had asked. Perhaps it was a plan to measure U.S. reactions and defenses.

Tenet had the NSA review all the intercepts, and the agency concluded they were of genuine al-Qaeda communications. On June 30, a top-secret senior executive intelligence brief contained an article headlined "Bin Laden Threats Are Real."

Tenet hoped his abrupt request for an immediate meeting would shake Rice. He and Black, a veteran covert operator, had two main points when they met with her. First, al-Qaeda was going to attack American interests, possibly in the United States itself. Black emphasized that this amounted to a strategic warning, meaning the problem was so serious that it required an overall plan and strategy. Second, this was a major foreign policy problem that needed to be addressed immediately. They needed to take action that moment -- covert, military, whatever -- to thwart bin Laden.

The United States had human and technical sources, and all the intelligence was consistent, the two men told Rice. Black acknowledged that some of it was uncertain "voodoo" but said it was often this voodoo that was the best indicator.

Tenet and Black felt they were not getting through to Rice. She was polite, but they felt the brush-off. President Bush had said he didn't want to swat at flies.

As they all knew, a coherent plan for covert action against bin Laden was in the pipeline, but it would take some time. In recent closed-door meetings the entire National Security Council apparatus had been considering action against bin Laden, including using a new secret weapon: the Predator unmanned aerial vehicle, or drone, that could fire Hellfire missiles to kill him or his lieutenants. It looked like a possible solution, but there was a raging debate between the CIA and the Pentagon about who would pay for it and who would have authority to shoot.

Besides, Rice seemed focused on other administration priorities, especially the ballistic missile defense system that Bush had campaigned on. She was in a different place.

your pardon here. The CLINTON administration did not want to be bothered with terrorism

 

[Avatar4321]

So the President controls the crime rate now?

President Clinton was a horrible President. He reigned over the decade of lies.

We were lied to about our security in the world.
We were lied to about economics
We were lied to about global warming
We were lied to about everything.

The problem is that sometimes people dont want to wake up from the lies because it feels nicer than reality. And there are those nowadays trying to put us deeper into sleep.

 

[rightwinger]

The Bush administration did not want to be bothered with terrorism. It did not have the prestige that re-fighting the cold war had

Two Months Before 9/11, an Urgent Warning to Rice

Two Months Before 9/11, an Urgent Warning to Rice - washingtonpost.com

Sunday, October 1, 2006

On July 10, 2001, two months before the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, then-CIA Director George J. Tenet met with his counterterrorism chief, J. Cofer Black, at CIA headquarters to review the latest on Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaeda terrorist organization. Black laid out the case, consisting of communications intercepts and other top-secret intelligence showing the increasing likelihood that al-Qaeda would soon attack the United States. It was a mass of fragments and dots that nonetheless made a compelling case, so compelling to Tenet that he decided he and Black should go to the White House immediately.

Tenet called Condoleezza Rice, then national security adviser, from the car and said he needed to see her right away. There was no practical way she could refuse such a request from the CIA director.

For months, Tenet had been pressing Rice to set a clear counterterrorism policy, including specific presidential orders called "findings" that would give the CIA stronger authority to conduct covert action against bin Laden. Perhaps a dramatic appearance -- Black called it an "out of cycle" session, beyond Tenet's regular weekly meeting with Rice -- would get her attention.

Tenet had been losing sleep over the recent intelligence he'd seen. There was no conclusive, smoking-gun intelligence, but there was such a huge volume of data that an intelligence officer's instinct strongly suggested that something was coming. He and Black hoped to convey the depth of their anxiety and get Rice to kick-start the government into immediate action.

He did not know when, where or how, but Tenet felt there was too much noise in the intelligence systems. Two weeks earlier, he had told Richard A. Clarke, the National Security Council's counterterrorism director: "It's my sixth sense, but I feel it coming. This is going to be the big one."


But Tenet had been having difficulty getting traction on an immediate bin Laden action plan, in part because Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld had questioned all the National Security Agency intercepts and other intelligence. Could all this be a grand deception? Rumsfeld had asked. Perhaps it was a plan to measure U.S. reactions and defenses.

Tenet had the NSA review all the intercepts, and the agency concluded they were of genuine al-Qaeda communications. On June 30, a top-secret senior executive intelligence brief contained an article headlined "Bin Laden Threats Are Real."

Tenet hoped his abrupt request for an immediate meeting would shake Rice. He and Black, a veteran covert operator, had two main points when they met with her. First, al-Qaeda was going to attack American interests, possibly in the United States itself. Black emphasized that this amounted to a strategic warning, meaning the problem was so serious that it required an overall plan and strategy. Second, this was a major foreign policy problem that needed to be addressed immediately. They needed to take action that moment -- covert, military, whatever -- to thwart bin Laden.

The United States had human and technical sources, and all the intelligence was consistent, the two men told Rice. Black acknowledged that some of it was uncertain "voodoo" but said it was often this voodoo that was the best indicator.

Tenet and Black felt they were not getting through to Rice. She was polite, but they felt the brush-off. President Bush had said he didn't want to swat at flies.

As they all knew, a coherent plan for covert action against bin Laden was in the pipeline, but it would take some time. In recent closed-door meetings the entire National Security Council apparatus had been considering action against bin Laden, including using a new secret weapon: the Predator unmanned aerial vehicle, or drone, that could fire Hellfire missiles to kill him or his lieutenants. It looked like a possible solution, but there was a raging debate between the CIA and the Pentagon about who would pay for it and who would have authority to shoot.

Besides, Rice seemed focused on other administration priorities, especially the ballistic missile defense system that Bush had campaigned on. She was in a different place.

your pardon here. The CLINTON administration did not want to be bothered with terrorism

Hmmmmmm....I wasn't aware that George Tenet and Codi Rice were part of the Clinton administration......you learn something new every day

 

[elvis]

The Bush administration did not want to be bothered with terrorism. It did not have the prestige that re-fighting the cold war had

Two Months Before 9/11, an Urgent Warning to Rice

Two Months Before 9/11, an Urgent Warning to Rice - washingtonpost.com

Sunday, October 1, 2006

On July 10, 2001, two months before the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, then-CIA Director George J. Tenet met with his counterterrorism chief, J. Cofer Black, at CIA headquarters to review the latest on Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaeda terrorist organization. Black laid out the case, consisting of communications intercepts and other top-secret intelligence showing the increasing likelihood that al-Qaeda would soon attack the United States. It was a mass of fragments and dots that nonetheless made a compelling case, so compelling to Tenet that he decided he and Black should go to the White House immediately.

Tenet called Condoleezza Rice, then national security adviser, from the car and said he needed to see her right away. There was no practical way she could refuse such a request from the CIA director.

For months, Tenet had been pressing Rice to set a clear counterterrorism policy, including specific presidential orders called "findings" that would give the CIA stronger authority to conduct covert action against bin Laden. Perhaps a dramatic appearance -- Black called it an "out of cycle" session, beyond Tenet's regular weekly meeting with Rice -- would get her attention.

Tenet had been losing sleep over the recent intelligence he'd seen. There was no conclusive, smoking-gun intelligence, but there was such a huge volume of data that an intelligence officer's instinct strongly suggested that something was coming. He and Black hoped to convey the depth of their anxiety and get Rice to kick-start the government into immediate action.

He did not know when, where or how, but Tenet felt there was too much noise in the intelligence systems. Two weeks earlier, he had told Richard A. Clarke, the National Security Council's counterterrorism director: "It's my sixth sense, but I feel it coming. This is going to be the big one."


But Tenet had been having difficulty getting traction on an immediate bin Laden action plan, in part because Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld had questioned all the National Security Agency intercepts and other intelligence. Could all this be a grand deception? Rumsfeld had asked. Perhaps it was a plan to measure U.S. reactions and defenses.

Tenet had the NSA review all the intercepts, and the agency concluded they were of genuine al-Qaeda communications. On June 30, a top-secret senior executive intelligence brief contained an article headlined "Bin Laden Threats Are Real."

Tenet hoped his abrupt request for an immediate meeting would shake Rice. He and Black, a veteran covert operator, had two main points when they met with her. First, al-Qaeda was going to attack American interests, possibly in the United States itself. Black emphasized that this amounted to a strategic warning, meaning the problem was so serious that it required an overall plan and strategy. Second, this was a major foreign policy problem that needed to be addressed immediately. They needed to take action that moment -- covert, military, whatever -- to thwart bin Laden.

The United States had human and technical sources, and all the intelligence was consistent, the two men told Rice. Black acknowledged that some of it was uncertain "voodoo" but said it was often this voodoo that was the best indicator.

Tenet and Black felt they were not getting through to Rice. She was polite, but they felt the brush-off. President Bush had said he didn't want to swat at flies.

As they all knew, a coherent plan for covert action against bin Laden was in the pipeline, but it would take some time. In recent closed-door meetings the entire National Security Council apparatus had been considering action against bin Laden, including using a new secret weapon: the Predator unmanned aerial vehicle, or drone, that could fire Hellfire missiles to kill him or his lieutenants. It looked like a possible solution, but there was a raging debate between the CIA and the Pentagon about who would pay for it and who would have authority to shoot.

Besides, Rice seemed focused on other administration priorities, especially the ballistic missile defense system that Bush had campaigned on. She was in a different place.

your pardon here. The CLINTON administration did not want to be bothered with terrorism

Hmmmmmm....I wasn't aware that George Tenet and Codi Rice were part of the Clinton administration......you learn something new every day

Tenet got his position under Clinton, dumbfuck.