Bill Clinton and Barack Obama believe 9-11 was done by terrorists

[eots]

9-11 widow questions why MSNBC host silenced her

Scarborough Country becomes “9-11 Spin Country” as Ellen Mariani says her microphone was abruptly shut off in the middle of her September 11 expose during an interview Monday night. U.S. intelligence sources say the national cover-up of the mysterious death of host Joe Scarborough’s former female congressional aide—found in his district office—is linked to why the truth about 9-11 was cut off by the MSNBC host

by Tom Flocco and Stew Webb
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9-11 widow questions why MSNBC host silenced her




Ellen Mariani
Denver—December 8, 2005—StewWebb.com & TomFlocco.com—9-11 widow Ellen Mariani’s allegations of disrespect by the host Joe Scarborough during her MSNBC interview attempt to explain government involvement in the September 11 attacks raises questions as to whether the national cover-up of the dead body of Scarborough’s former 28-year-old female staffer found in his Fort Walton Beach, Florida congressional office in 2001 is linked to the MSNBC job protecting the public’s right to know—or preventing truth about 9-11 from becoming a factor in exposing White House crime family evidence.

After Mariani called us yesterday in dismay regarding how she was treated on-air by Scarborough, members of U.S. intelligence were contacted to find out why the normally affable Scarborough cut off Mariani’s comments about September 11 since she was the first victim family member to sue the Bush administration for direct involvement in the attacks—also refusing to join the other victim families in accepting millions in congressional “compensation” in return for signing a legal document promising never to sue the U.S. government or seek 9-11 criminal evidence in a courtroom.

Sources within United States intelligence Special Operations Group told us yesterday that former congressional staff aide Lori Kaye Klausutis was found dead at her desk in Scarborough’s office and that she had been reading secret explosive “True Colors” documents, raising questions as to how and why Scarborough was in possession of transcripts detailing illegal covert operations conducted by and linked directly to White House crime families.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

continued-how come when they first became aware,they didn't report it to the public? They HAVE reported it to the public.Thats why there is such a big truth movement going on all over the world.these are known facts around the world.more and more millions of people are waking up to it every year.Many people arent going to hear about it though cause the corporate controlled media isnt going to report this.you kidding? Obama's would never have been elected president if he spoke about the truth on 9/11.Once you get up that high to the elected office of the presidency,you have been compromised.Meaning he did some evil things along the way to get there.He doesnt want any of those skeletons to come out of the closet so that being the case,he will go along with whatever the Establishment wants him to do. are you kidding? Obama's career would never skyrocket if he mentioned the truth about 9/11.They would make sure and have both the media and government sabatoge his campain like they did with Ron Paul.

The major media networks didnt give Ron Paul ANYWHERE near the amount of airtime they gave any of the other candidates.Matter of fact he was on Jay Leno and Leno was talking to him how he thought it was unfair that they did not let him participate in the new hampshire primarys which is illegal by the way.and he said to Leno-Yeah it was unfair,matter of fact were going to file a lawsuit against the state of New Hampsire for this.

Also Ron Paul HAS talked about 9/11.At the beginning when he was running for the presidency,he was telling people at rallys that if elected,he would reopen a new 9/11 investigation.Well in later months he changed his tune and started saying in televised conferences that he did not believe there was a government conspiracy in 9/11 and I found out the reason why he changed his tune was because a lot of his major supporters from the left do not believe it was an inside job so he didnt want to lose their support is why he changed his tune.But INITIALLY he was talking about that.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

continued-Obama would NEVER have become president if he said what REALLY went on in 9/11.Thats why Pauls campain was sabatoged was because they dont want him in office.And of course not every politician is corrupt.I NEVER said that.There are some good honest politicians out there like Ron Paul who want to do the right thing.Not all members of congress are corrupt,just most of them are.

Most of them sadly are able to be bought off with money to keep their mouths shut though or go along with what they want you to do.Example,Before Nancy Polosky became speaker of the house,she was calling for Bush to be impeached.AFTER she got elected,she changed her tune and NOW says he should NOT be impeached.Obviously they got to her and she has been bought off and paid for to keep her mouth shut if she wants to stay in office.They couldn't have shown this to us because again,the corporate controlled media wont cover REAL news and the good ones that are out there that are honest,were kept in the dark about it.

and as for your questions about the media? are you kidding? Havent you watched any of the main news channels like FOX NBC,ABC,CBS ect? Everythime they HAVE had someone come on their stations and talk about the conspiracy being an inside job,they have been viciously attacked by the newscasters and insulted and called names by people such as Bill O'Reily.O'Reily is definetely the worst of them all.They cut them off not allowing them to present their evidence and then go to a commerical and dont come back to them and go on to another totally different topic.

Thats hardly objective reporting.Sounds pretty Bias to me,wouldnt you say? It actually HAS been talked about on CNN and C- SPAN.Especially Cspan but even with them,they only talk about it occassionally.They SHOULD be talking about it at least once a week.I mean this is important news for god sakes!!! But again they dont report REAL news that often even.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Continued-No there are some good politicians out there but they are in the minority.Most of them are corrupt so the good ones out there cant get anything done about 9/11.Believe me,they have tried.Here are some good examples of some good politicians as a matter of fact that have tried to do the right thing.Former Governor of Minnesota Jesse Ventura for example,has always believed that the military industrial complex/CIA was behind the kennedy assassination.He pushed hard for that case to be reopened when he was governor to no avail.it was because of things like that,that he resigned his position and got out of politics.He saw how corrupt congress and washington was up there not wanting to do the right thing like re open the JFK case,that he resigned.He didnt want to have anything to do with them cause he is a good man who has morals and knows right from wrong. Congressman Cynthia McKinney of arizona is another good politician who wants to do the right thing.She also wants Bush impeached and a new 9/11 investigation. Congressmen Dennis Kucinich of new York is another good man in congress who wants Bush impeached and a new investigation re opened.Finally there is also Senator Mark Dayton of Minnesota who has gone before congress and asked them to re open a new 9/11 investigation.Oh and Ventura of course also wants a new 9/11 investigation re opened.

why would all these businesses want people to die and wouldn't they lose customers? Dude theres hundreds of millions of people in the united states in case you hadnt noticed.they dont give a crap if just a mere 3000 or so die.They got millions of others to replace them and buy their products.again war is the biggest money maker for the military industrail complex.Cheney and Bush profited from the attacks BIG TIME.That has been documented.

 

[DiveCon]

looks like someone needs to read the "fair use" rules for posting complete articles

 

[LA RAM FAN]

continued-The Clintons,The Bush's,Cheney,Rumsfield,Rice,ect ect.They were all involved in it.Who Knows,maybe even Obama even knew about it as well.If he didnt know before,he knows who was really behind it now.He became a CFR member 2 years ago.He isnt going to do whats good for the country like Ron Paul would have.You cant become president unless you are a CFR member and by the time you have become one,you have been groomed to do what they tell you to do otherwise you end up like Kennedy and they get rid of you.Every president in the last 60 years or so has been a member of the CFR.Even Kennedy was.The only difference in him and the other presidents since then,was he only attended a couple of meetings where the others over the years were all regular attendees constantly after being elected.Also I did not believe this at first but apparently Obama is a cousin of Bush's.

Apparently he is like his ninth cousin.do this-
go to youtube.com and type in this-what is the new world order learn who the masters are. Did you go there yet and watch that video? see it HAS been talked about on the mainstream news at times just not ALL the time like it should so of course were not going to hear about it like we should.Did you hear the part about how Obama is Bush's ninth cousin? If thats true,well that cant be good for the future of the world.I would say now knowing he is his 9th cousin,that thats possible.

Also do this as well.go to this site. http://canadawantsthetruth911videos.blogspot.com
and go to the right hand side there and go to where it says-9/11 videos and click on the first link there where it says 9/11 A Closer Look and watch that short 20 minute or so video.Did you do that yet? did you see how Senator Dayton of Minnesota was talking before congress saying they should re open a new 9/11 investigation? See you just will never hear any of that reported from the mainstream news,thats why you should subscribe to those alternative news sources I gave you and read them cause they report the REAL news. Oh and as for your last point on Ron Paul? Like I said,he HAS talked before in the beginning about 9/11 being an inside job its just he changed his tune when he DID start running for president cause he was afraid of losing his support from the many people that support him on other issues but dont agree with him on that one.

as for the last question about the CFR group on if a candidate talked about them wouldnt that guarantee them a spot in the oval office? again if Obama ever brought that up,he would NEVER have been elected to the oval office and they would have made sure to sabatoge his campain like they did with Obama.till tomorrow.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

continued-okay to finish the rest of this,how could they have pulled this off while fooling as many people as they did? Look at the kennedy assassination.they kept that a secret for over 30 years successfully.The CIA/military industrial complex killed him in case you didnt know cause he wanted to pull out of the vietnam war.Until the movie came out,people around the world always accepted the official version that oswald killed kennedy.when the movie came out,it woke people up that the media and school systems have brainwashed everybody around the wolrd all these years.I always thought oswald did it till the movie came out.the government keeps secrets from the citizens of our country as a matter of routine.we dont know half of what goes on in washington and around the world.and as far as the CIA and other intelligence agencies,they have made a living for YEARS on keeping secrets from the population of the world.

 

[Dis]

Oh, goody.. It's already in Conspiracy Theories, and doesn't need to be moved.

**walks out holding head**

Y'all are nuts.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Finally,I dont have all the answers your asking because I wasnt involved in it obviously.Because of that,since we dont know the truth on what REALLY happened,were just left to speculate.We DO know that the 9/11 commission is a coverup commission and is a fairy tale.We know THAT much for sure.Since were left to just speculate what happened,I'll give the probability of what did happen.Here are your three points brought up.
1.Did they convince people to fly into buildings? No thats highly unlikely because I seriously doubt you could pay any terrorist off to do that cause what good would it do them if they were not around to spend it? The more likley scenario-as hard as it sounds to believe,is in this day and age,we have the technology now where intelligency agenices can fly an airliner overseas across the country for several hours by remote control.I have to believe that thats what they did to fly them into the towers.Plus I read somewhere that an intelligence officer said the second airliner that hit,looked to him like it was remote controlled.and when you look at it,it does look like it came in at a strange angle for being piloted.The first looked normal,the second one did not.

2.Was everyone on the plane in agreement? well if the plane was remote controlled,then its highly unlikely any of them knew how to stop it from being flown in if they WERE in the planes.It wasnt terrorists though.It would be impossible for them to sneak by security the way they did,plus NORAD has airline procedures were if an airliner strays off course like that,they have jets ready to stand by and scramble, and if worst comes to worst,shoot it down.all those procedures were violated that day.and remember,new york and washington-ESPECIALLY washington,are the most guarded airspaces in the world.
3.were the planes empty? your guess is as good as mine but I tend to believe they were.

 

[eots]

Oh, goody.. It's already in Conspiracy Theories, and doesn't need to be moved.

**walks out holding head**

Y'all are nuts.

so in the world of denial you live in these men are..nuts?

Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.

Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State."

Bio: David L Griscom PhD Physicist bio




Dwain Deets, MS Eng

Dwain Deets, MS Physics, MS Eng – Former Director, Aerospace Projects, NASA Dryden Flight Research Center. Before this appointment, he served as Director, Research Engineering Division at Dryden. Recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Award and the Presidential Meritorious Rank Award in the Senior Executive Service (1988). Selected presenter of the Wright Brothers Lectureship in Aeronautics, a distinguished speaking engagement sponsored by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) (1986). Included in "Who's Who in Science and Engineering" 1993 - 2000. Former Chairman of the Aerospace Control and Guidance Systems Committee of the Society of Automotive Engineers. Former Member, AIAA Committee on Society and Aerospace Technology. 37 year NASA career.
Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:


"The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Center]." AE911Truth


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 500 Architects and Engineers:

"On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7." Sign the Petition


Editor's note: WTC Building 7 was 610 feet tall, 47 stories. It would have been the tallest building in 33 states. Although it was not hit by an airplane, it completely collapsed into a pile of rubble in less than 7 seconds at 5:20 p.m. on 9/11, seven hours after the collapses of the Twin Towers. However, no mention of its collapse appears in the 9/11 Commission's "full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks." Watch the collapse video here. And six years after 9/11, the Federal government has yet to publish its promised final report that explains the cause of its collapse.


Bio: NASA - Dryden Flight Research Center


Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

 

[Dis]

What's your point, Eots? Kerry was Military, and received a purple heart, and he's still nuts.

Neither service, nor profession is indicative of mental stability.

 

[eots]

my point is you belive these men that headed NASA programs received not only medals for bravery and purple hearts but some of the top scientific honors one can receive are all nuts...all 500 of them..mentally unstable...so basically anyone regardless of expertise or service that disagrees with your uniformed opinion ..is written off as mentally ill ?
and if achievement ..grace under pressure..decades of outstanding service are not indictors of mental soundness...what is ?...agreeing with you ?

 

[DiveCon]

my point is you belive these men that headed NASA programs received not only medals for bravery and purple hearts but some of the top scientific honors one can receive are all nuts...all 500 of them..mentally unstable...so basically anyone regardless of expertise or service that disagrees with your uniformed opinion ..is written off as mentally ill ?
and if achievement ..grace under pressure..decades of outstanding service are not indictors of mental soundness...what is ?...agreeing with you ?

why is it that of all the guys you bring up, their only web presence is on that one site you keep violating the fair use rules on?
why is it that the only one that actually has another site has had to disable his contact page?
and on his own site there is not one mention of 9/11 in any way?

 

[eots]

god now we are back to your insane patriotsquestion011 conspiracy theory ..the one where this long standing site the statements contained within and the petition are all faked...and there is no violation of fair use laws occurring ..your little joke is growing tired..

 

[DiveCon]

god now we are back to your insane patriotsquestion011 conspiracy theory ..the one where this long standing site the statements contained within and the petition are all faked...and there is no violation of fair use laws occurring ..your little joke is growing tired..

yes, you do violate the fair use rules on this site when you post entire articles

and its not a conspiracy to say there are fake sites with false info on the internet
it is a FACT
you have no personal knowlledge of any of these people or that they actually exist

 

[LA RAM FAN]

As anybody who has been following the news knows now.Obama has gone to the white house on a few occassions and had lunch with Bush shaking his hand and walking around the white house and everything and just last night,he was on the news giving ole Hillary a hug.31 of the 37 of his appointees are former members of the Clinton administration it was announced.People are in for a very rude awakening if they think Obama is for change.Thats not change bringing in the same people from the Clinton administration that people voted out of office cause they saw how corrupt they are.Its the same old script. Some people just dont get it that the republics and the democrats are the same party.Look at what the republican congress did with Clinton in the Monica Lewisnsky scandal.They pardoned him. Do you see the democrat congress doing anything about Bush? No. and thats despite the fact that he has committed over a 145 impeachable offences violationg his oath as president and the constitution.

 

[CrimsonWhite]

As anybody who has been following the news knows now.Obama has gone to the white house on a few occassions and had lunch with Bush shaking his hand and walking around the white house and everything and just last night,he was on the news giving ole Hillary a hug.31 of the 37 of his appointees are former members of the Clinton administration it was announced.People are in for a very rude awakening if they think Obama is for change.Thats not change bringing in the same people from the Clinton administration that people voted out of office cause they saw how corrupt they are.Its the same old script. Some people just dont get it that the republics and the democrats are the same party.Look at what the republican congress did with Clinton in the Monica Lewisnsky scandal.They pardoned him. Do you see the democrat congress doing anything about Bush? No. and thats despite the fact that he has committed over a 145 impeachable offences violationg his oath as president and the constitution.

You really are a load that should have been swallowed.

What are these impeachable offense that you speak of?

 

[eots]

yes, you do violate the fair use rules on this site when you post entire articles

and its not a conspiracy to say there are fake sites with false info on the internet
it is a FACT
you have no personal knowlledge of any of these people or that they actually exist

I have not posted the full articles....and it the issue is not that fake sites exist...but that a site can give direct quotes from famous individuals and high ranking military..use their images..broadcast the existence of the site on national radio .. remain up for 5 years..when in actuality it is all a conspiracy to discredit these men's names and reputations and mislead the public

that is your theory...that is the conspiracy you are believing has taken place


so do you have personal knowledge of Obama..are you sure he really exist

gee.. maybe Edward Mitchell does not really exist..

maybe the moon landing never happened...

maybe ....you don't exist.. maybe.. you are a butterfly dreaming your a divecon

 

[DiveCon]

I have not posted the full articles....and it the issue is not that fake sites exist...but that a site can give direct quotes from famous individuals and high ranking military..use their images..broadcast the existence of the site on national radio .. remain up for 5 years..when in actuality it is all a conspiracy to discredit these men's names and reputations and mislead the public

that is your theory...that is the conspiracy you are believing has taken place


so do you have personal knowledge of Obama..are you sure he really exist

gee.. maybe Edward Mitchell does not really exist..

maybe the moon landing never happened...

maybe ....you don't exist.. maybe.. you are a butterfly dreaming your a divecon

i'm truely amazed someone can be as fucking stupid as you are

 

[eots]

I am just following your logic...and that's where it leads