Belief in biblical end-times stifling climate change action in U.S.

[ima]

Global warming is just Satan turning up the heat a little.

 

[RollingThunder]

Oddie, post the scientific societies that state that AGW is a hoax. You said it, back it up. Come on, either you posted an outright lie, or you can back up what you posted.

Don't need to....Westwall, polarbear, IanC, and others have posted all the scientific info you need to debunk your fatalist swill.

My expertise is in linguistics, semantics and thematic structure, which lends all the credibility to their side and none to yours...Malthus, Galbraith, Ehrlich, the IPCC and the Mayan calendar have all been shown to be wrong...As you are.

You may just as well be wandering the streets wearing a sandwich board which reads "THE END IS NIGH!"

That's hilarious....one clueless denier cult retard citing the ignorant drivel posted by other clueless denier cult retards.....Screwball's "expertise" is obviously in the field of spewing bullshit....

 

[Oddball]

 

[skookerasbil]

Ever notice that the climate OC's are always so angry and miserable???


Whats up with that?


And the "denier clueless" always in here having all sorts of fun!!!


Could it be that......behind all the lofty rhetoric, the climate OC's know...........




they're losing......BIG

 

[skookerasbil]

Yet another global cooling mechanism found ( from The University of Manchester )

A case of the vapors ? another global cooling mechanism found | Watts Up With That?



PS.....dont forget, the climate consensus scientists still havent figured out how to successfully incorporate clouds into their models!!!

 

[ScienceRocks]

Yet another global cooling mechanism found ( from The University of Manchester )

A case of the vapors ? another global cooling mechanism found | Watts Up With That?



PS.....dont forget, the climate consensus scientists still havent figured out how to successfully incorporate clouds into their models!!!

Science is about trail and error. We're piecing the pieces together...

But at the end of the day co2 is still a green house gas. lol

 

[westwall]

Yet another global cooling mechanism found ( from The University of Manchester )

A case of the vapors ? another global cooling mechanism found | Watts Up With That?



PS.....dont forget, the climate consensus scientists still havent figured out how to successfully incorporate clouds into their models!!!

Science is about trail and error. We're piecing the pieces together...

But at the end of the day co2 is still a green house gas. lol

A trace gas that operates in the same frequency as water vapor which constitutes 90% of the atmospheric GHG's. You'll have to try harder than that Matthew old boy. CO2's effect is completely overwhelmed by water vapor.

That's why we're almost at 400 ppm and the temps have stalled in total defiance of AGW theory. Because CO2 has no measurable effect on climate.

 

[SSDD]

A trace gas that operates in the same frequency as water vapor which constitutes 90% of the atmospheric GHG's. You'll have to try harder than that Matthew old boy. CO2's effect is completely overwhelmed by water vapor.

That's why we're almost at 400 ppm and the temps have stalled in total defiance of AGW theory. Because CO2 has no measurable effect on climate.

The "new" cooling mechanism is not the result of observation or measurement...it is the output of another model. What do you want to bet that it turns out to be as wrong as every other thing predicted by computer models.

 

[skookerasbil]

Yet another global cooling mechanism found ( from The University of Manchester )

A case of the vapors ? another global cooling mechanism found | Watts Up With That?



PS.....dont forget, the climate consensus scientists still havent figured out how to successfully incorporate clouds into their models!!!

Science is about trail and error. We're piecing the pieces together...

But at the end of the day co2 is still a green house gas. lol

LOL indeed.......and the whole trial and error thing means there isnt anything scientific about it......the "models" for example are pawned off as "science" but they are hardly scientific. Perhaps it should be described as "in the ballpark" or something similar. But then you have big ballparks and small ballparks.

Co2 is a "trace" gas......nobody is impressed.

 

[Oddball]

A trace gas that operates in the same frequency as water vapor which constitutes 90% of the atmospheric GHG's. You'll have to try harder than that Matthew old boy. CO2's effect is completely overwhelmed by water vapor.

That's why we're almost at 400 ppm and the temps have stalled in total defiance of AGW theory. Because CO2 has no measurable effect on climate.

The "new" cooling mechanism is not the result of observation or measurement...it is the output of another model. What do you want to bet that it turns out to be as wrong as every other thing predicted by computer models.

Certainly nothing a little more smoothing can't fix!

 

[Dot Com]

deniers = thumpers (rw social conservatives)? Knock me over w/ a feather.

A new study sheds some light on just why so many rightwingnuts reject the very clear and urgent warnings from virtually the entire world scientific community on the dangers to our world, our civilization, our populations, the Earth's biosphere and future generations from anthropogenic global warming and its associated climate changes. It turns out that they don't care about destroying the world because they have some wacko superstitions that the world is ending soon anyway so why bother when there is still so much profit to be made from selling and burning fossil fuels. The fact that crazies like this are in positions of power in our government is a very bad sign for the future of America and for our ability to lead the world in the struggle to drastically reduce mankind's carbon emissions and mitigate the damage to the planet that we are causing.

Belief in biblical end-times stifling climate change action in U.S.: study
RawStory
By Eric W. Dolan
Wednesday, May 1, 2013
(excerpts)

The United States has failed to take action to mitigate climate change thanks in part to the large number of religious Americans who believe the world has a set expiration date. Research by David C. Barker of the University of Pittsburgh and David H. Bearce of the University of Colorado uncovered that belief in the biblical end-times was a motivating factor behind resistance to curbing climate change. “The fact that such an overwhelming percentage of Republican citizens profess a belief in the Second Coming (76 percent in 2006, according to our sample) suggests that governmental attempts to curb greenhouse emissions would encounter stiff resistance even if every Democrat in the country wanted to curb them,” Barker and Bearce wrote in their study, which will be published in the June issue of Political Science Quarterly. The study, based on data from the 2007 Cooperative Congressional Election Study, uncovered that belief in the “Second Coming” of Jesus reduced the probability of strongly supporting government action on climate change by 12 percent when controlling for a number of demographic and cultural factors. When the effects of party affiliation, political ideology, and media distrust were removed from the analysis, the belief in the “Second Coming” increased this effect by almost 20 percent.

“It stands to reason that most nonbelievers would support preserving the Earth for future generations, but that end-times believers would rationally perceive such efforts to be ultimately futile, and hence ill-advised,” Barker and Bearce explained. That very sentiment has been expressed by federal legislators. Rep. John Shimkus (R-IL) said in 2010 that he opposed action on climate change because “the Earth will end only when God declares it to be over.” He is the chairman of the Subcommittee on Environment and the Economy. Though the two researchers cautioned their study was not intended to predict future policy outcomes, they said their study suggested it was unlikely the United States would take action on climate change while so many Americans, particularly Republicans, believed in the coming end-times. “That is, because of institutions such as the Electoral College, the winner-take-all representation mechanism, and the Senate filibuster, as well as the geographic distribution of partisanship to modern partisan polarization, minority interests often successfully block majority preferences,” Barker and Bearce wrote. “Thus, even if the median voter supports policies designed to slow global warming, legislation to effect such change could find itself dead on arrival if the median Republican voter strongly resists public policy environmentalism at least in part because of end-times beliefs.”

Copyright © 2004-2013 Raw Story Media, Inc. All rights reserved.

(In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.)

 

[RollingThunder]

Science is about trail and error. We're piecing the pieces together...

But at the end of the day co2 is still a green house gas. lol

A trace gas that operates in the same frequency as water vapor which constitutes 90% of the atmospheric GHG's. You'll have to try harder than that Matthew old boy. CO2's effect is completely overwhelmed by water vapor.

That's why we're almost at 400 ppm and the temps have stalled in total defiance of AGW theory. Because CO2 has no measurable effect on climate.

Your bogus anti-science fantasies just get more and more insane and out of touch with reality, walleyed. Are you on drugs again?

 

[westwall]

A trace gas that operates in the same frequency as water vapor which constitutes 90% of the atmospheric GHG's. You'll have to try harder than that Matthew old boy. CO2's effect is completely overwhelmed by water vapor.

That's why we're almost at 400 ppm and the temps have stalled in total defiance of AGW theory. Because CO2 has no measurable effect on climate.

The "new" cooling mechanism is not the result of observation or measurement...it is the output of another model. What do you want to bet that it turns out to be as wrong as every other thing predicted by computer models.

It is also a desperate attempt to salvage their BS theory.

And it has already failed.

 

[racewright]

Guys it takes thousands of years for CLIMATE CHANGE
will not happen in your lifetime as hollywood and enviro wackos would like you to believe.

That's complete bullcrap and just shows how ignorant you are about this subject.. Although climate changes driven by slight variations in the Earth's orbit usually take a long time, climate patterns can and have changed fairly rapidly due to other causes at times in the past.

The Science of Abrupt Climate Change: Should we be worried?
By Jeffrey Masters, Ph.D. — Director of Meteorology, Weather Underground, Inc.

We generally consider climate changes as taking place on the scale of hundreds or even thousands of years. However, since the early 1990s, a radical shift in the scientific understanding of Earth's climate history has occurred. We now know that that major regional and global climate shifts have occurred in just a few decades or even a single year. The most recent of these shifts occurred just 8200 years ago. If an abrupt climate change of similar magnitude happened today, it would have severe consequences for humans and natural ecosystems. Although scientists consider an abrupt climate change unlikely in the next 100 years, their understanding of the phenomena is still a work-in-progress, and such a change could be triggered instantly by natural processes or by human-caused global warming with little warning. The National Academy of Sciences--the board of scientists established by Congress in 1863 to advise the federal government on scientific matters--compiled a comprehensive report in 2002 entitled, Abrupt Climate Change: Inevitable Surprises. The 244-page report, which contains over 500 references, was written by a team of 59 of the top researchers in climate, and represents the most authoritative source of information about abrupt climate change available.

The historical records shows us that abrupt climate change is not only possible--it is the normal state of affairs. The present warm, stable climate is a rare anomaly. It behooves us to learn as much as we can about the climate system so that we may be able to predict when the next abrupt shift in climate will come. Until we know better when this might happen, it would be wise to stop pouring so much carbon dioxide into the air. A nasty surprise might be lurking just around the corner. In the words of Dr. Wally Broecker, "the climate system is an angry beast, and we are poking it."

Ok it did not rain today but it might rain tomorrow right after I sell this bridge to ya, I'm ignorant because I think your dribbble is BS wow fools are born every miniute and you are proof--remember no electric tonight

 

[whitehall]

If you want to bring religion into the argument about the environment you might consider that "man made" global warming is more a religion than science. The whiny warmers won't even argue anymore. They call anyone who disagrees with the doctrine "unbelievers". I expect they might even use the word "heretic" pretty soon. Warmers rely on faith in unnamed "scientists (priests?) when they can't even trust their own senses. When it's hot it's hot and when it's cold it's warm. Sometimes it even seems that warmers don't understand geology or history. They think the world is only as old as a few decades or a hundred years. Apparently warmers see the sun as some sort of god like entity instead of the source of energy.

 

[RollingThunder]

If you want to bring religion into the argument about the environment you might consider that "man made" global warming is more a religion than science. The whiny warmers won't even argue anymore. They call anyone who disagrees with the doctrine "unbelievers". I expect they might even use the word "heretic" pretty soon. Warmers rely on faith in unnamed "scientists (priests?) when they can't even trust their own senses. When it's hot it's hot and when it's cold it's warm. Sometimes it even seems that warmers don't understand geology or history. They think the world is only as old as a few decades or a hundred years. Apparently warmers see the sun as some sort of god like entity instead of the source of energy.

Your insane drivel is hilarious......"unnamed scientists"???....LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL......you are, without a doubt, one the biggest retards on this forum and this is a hard record to set.....

 

[ScienceRocks]

If you want to bring religion into the argument about the environment you might consider that "man made" global warming is more a religion than science. The whiny warmers won't even argue anymore. They call anyone who disagrees with the doctrine "unbelievers". I expect they might even use the word "heretic" pretty soon. Warmers rely on faith in unnamed "scientists (priests?) when they can't even trust their own senses. When it's hot it's hot and when it's cold it's warm. Sometimes it even seems that warmers don't understand geology or history. They think the world is only as old as a few decades or a hundred years. Apparently warmers see the sun as some sort of god like entity instead of the source of energy.

1. Man made global warming is based on known physics. WTF? Real Mathematical equations that are developed to understand the atmosphere. Some of these mathematical equations like. 1# Black body, second law of thermodynamics, etc are corner stones of Atmospheric science. The first one was one of the biggest of the 19th century when it was found. You can disagree with the science as that's just the way science is, but you better have damn good science to do so with these. lol The laws of thermodynamics are what makes our machinery and engines run!!! If you wanted a real world application of it.

2. I'll argue.

3. Cold, warm, snow, rainy, etc. If you're getting 200 year events every few years you got something strange going on. I'm a A student in geology-- so I think I understand how old this planet is unlike mr.6000 years old that probably doesn't. lol.

 

[whitehall]

If you want to bring religion into the argument about the environment you might consider that "man made" global warming is more a religion than science. The whiny warmers won't even argue anymore. They call anyone who disagrees with the doctrine "unbelievers". I expect they might even use the word "heretic" pretty soon. Warmers rely on faith in unnamed "scientists (priests?) when they can't even trust their own senses. When it's hot it's hot and when it's cold it's warm. Sometimes it even seems that warmers don't understand geology or history. They think the world is only as old as a few decades or a hundred years. Apparently warmers see the sun as some sort of god like entity instead of the source of energy.

Your insane drivel is hilarious......"unnamed scientists"???....LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL......you are, without a doubt, one the biggest retards on this forum and this is a hard record to set.....

Lots of LOL's are the cyber-talk equivalent of inappropriate and nervous laughter that replaces cognizant thinking. Juvenile name calling is typical. I rest my case.

 

[RollingThunder]

If you want to bring religion into the argument about the environment you might consider that "man made" global warming is more a religion than science. The whiny warmers won't even argue anymore. They call anyone who disagrees with the doctrine "unbelievers". I expect they might even use the word "heretic" pretty soon. Warmers rely on faith in unnamed "scientists (priests?) when they can't even trust their own senses. When it's hot it's hot and when it's cold it's warm. Sometimes it even seems that warmers don't understand geology or history. They think the world is only as old as a few decades or a hundred years. Apparently warmers see the sun as some sort of god like entity instead of the source of energy.

Your insane drivel is hilarious......"unnamed scientists"???....LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL......you are, without a doubt, one the biggest retards on this forum and this is a hard record to set.....

Lots of LOL's are the cyber-talk equivalent of inappropriate and nervous laughter that replaces cognizant thinking.

Actually, you're just so ridiculous that laughter is inevitable, particularly when you post confused, insane gibberish like that. Better get used to being laughed at, little retard, it's inevitable.

I rest my case.

LOL. Actually, warthog, you have no "case", just pathetic insanity and a massive amount of retarded delusions.

 

[Oddball]