Being Liberal Makes You a Fascist

[NYcarbineer]

What an insipid post......nothing to say about the fascism of your party?

Who are fascists in the Democratic Party today? Which fit the definition?

Have someone explain the OP to you.

So, you accuse the Democrats of fascism, but you can't actually name a current Democrat who fits the definition of a fascist.

 

[NYcarbineer]

um; no we arent; today's liberals are by and large Progressives. and intolerant to the point of obscenity.
Hitler was a great admirer of the Progressive movement in America
there is nothing liberal about today's liberal; except to liberally throw away trillion of other people's money

and nothing progressive about today's failed Progressives

fanatic rightwing extremists really aren't the ones to judge what anyone else thinks. you think the country thinks like you... no matter what evidence to the contrary.

"...you think the country thinks like you... no matter what evidence to the contrary."


Perhaps you should consider this:

Let's take the Congress to see where most folks' "agreement" lies-

It is, after all, the Senate, the one in which the small states have an equal vote with the more populous states, that is controlled by the Democrats.

It is the House of Representatives, the one that is apportioned according to population, that is controlled by the Republicans.



Appears you were in error, doesn't it.

Then there's the President, that the NATION gets to vote for.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I'm not a Liberal . Keep trying.

Still no comment about the fascist desire to censor speech.....


....don't be shy.

by definition you're incorrect


fas·cism noun \ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi-\

: a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government


this country is NOT ruled by a dictator ... that's YOUR baseless opinion

and YOU are being ALLOWED to disagree with your government.

Both you, and your thread are totally irrelevant and underserving of further comments.

Troll on.

You've forgotten that as of 2009, the Right redefined 'tyranny' as anytime they lose a vote.

 

[bripat9643]

Oh my, our cut and paste queenie is at it again. No, President Wilson was not a Fascist, nor have any of our Presidents been Fascists. As with evolution and global warming, you simply once again display your abysmal ignorance and gullibility.

Wrong, as alwals. Wilson definitely was a fascist, and FDR was an even bigger fascists. Our system of government under FDR was indistinguishable from the Third Reich. Every Dim president since FDR and most of the Republicans have been fascists. Fascism is the American way nowadays. Our freedom disappeared long ago.

Apparently your freedom to repeatedly blurt out the fascist like a mental patient hasn't disappeared.

about your quote:

"Both in theory and practice, National Socialism opposes liberalism. (Joseph Goebbels, 1933)"

In Germany liberals are people who believe in laizzes faire capitalism. So the Nazis opposed liazzes faire capitalism. Who do we know of in the U.S. who opposes laizzes faire capitalism?

Your quote only proves that your an ignoramus who doesn't know the slightest thing about European politics or economics.

 

[bedowin62]

I'm not a Liberal . Keep trying.

Still no comment about the fascist desire to censor speech.....


....don't be shy.

by definition you're incorrect


fas·cism noun \ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi-\

: a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government


this country is NOT ruled by a dictator ... that's YOUR baseless opinion

and YOU are being ALLOWED to disagree with your government.

Both you, and your thread are totally irrelevant and underserving of further comments.

Troll on.

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good one stupid; but you'd never know the allegedly diversity loving left allows opinions that differ from their own by the way you shout down commencement speakers; control what is said on college campuses
openly fantasize of taking a dump in the mouth of a conservative women; among other rabid abuse on your media
abuse the power of the IRS to go after the free speech of political foes

and trump up baseless sedition charges on a Fox reporter

the idiot and irrelevant one is you

but nobody really expects you fascist-wannabes on the left to man up to your hypocrisy and intolerance anyway

TROLL ON

 

[PoliticalChic]

I'm not a Liberal . Keep trying.

Still no comment about the fascist desire to censor speech.....


....don't be shy.

by definition you're incorrect


fas·cism noun \ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi-\

: a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government


this country is NOT ruled by a dictator ... that's YOUR baseless opinion

and YOU are being ALLOWED to disagree with your government.

Both you, and your thread are totally irrelevant and underserving of further comments.

Troll on.

I have many opinions.
None of them are baseless.




Your post is the kind of pretension that the disingenuous often use.

Basically, it involves a distinction without a difference.


As a courtesy, I'll educate you.


1. Can you give an example of a fascist government that allows free speech?


See where this is going?


2. As the Liberal elites are nudging this nation toward government dictated censorship, it is correct to label such proponents as fascists.



3. Now for actual facts, those with significance.
This, from post #40:

Liberal, Progressive, Democrat, socialist, communist, and fascist....and Nazi

Each and every one is a philosophy based on big government with the collective primary to the individual. To one degree or another, they all believe in the same doctrine: totalitarianism.


Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred.

A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right. WORLD | Let's admit who we are | Marvin Olasky | July 17, 2010

Nazi...national socialism....based on nationalism and/or race...
Communism....international socialism.




Let me offer one more non-baseless opinion: you are a fool.

 

[bripat9643]

Who are fascists in the Democratic Party today? Which fit the definition?

Have someone explain the OP to you.

So, you accuse the Democrats of fascism, but you can't actually name a current Democrat who fits the definition of a fascist.

Can you name one who doesn't? By the way, I have already established the fact that the definition posted by Mr. Lawrence Britt is a con.

 

[Siete]

Still no comment about the fascist desire to censor speech.....


....don't be shy.

by definition you're incorrect


fas·cism noun \ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi-\

: a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government


this country is NOT ruled by a dictator ... that's YOUR baseless opinion

and YOU are being ALLOWED to disagree with your government.

Both you, and your thread are totally irrelevant and underserving of further comments.

Troll on.

You've forgotten that as of 2009, the Right redefined 'tyranny' as anytime they lose a vote.

mea culpa ... big words impress simpletons

 

[bripat9643]

You've forgotten that as of 2009, the Right redefined 'tyranny' as anytime they lose a vote.

hmmmm, no, that's been the Democrat definition for about 100 years.

 

[PoliticalChic]

fanatic rightwing extremists really aren't the ones to judge what anyone else thinks. you think the country thinks like you... no matter what evidence to the contrary.

"...you think the country thinks like you... no matter what evidence to the contrary."


Perhaps you should consider this:

Let's take the Congress to see where most folks' "agreement" lies-

It is, after all, the Senate, the one in which the small states have an equal vote with the more populous states, that is controlled by the Democrats.

It is the House of Representatives, the one that is apportioned according to population, that is controlled by the Republicans.



Appears you were in error, doesn't it.

Then there's the President, that the NATION gets to vote for.

If actual learning ever becomes a reality for you, I suggest JL Talmon.


1. The latest variation of totalitarianism is neither religious, nor even political: it is cultural. “Totalitarian democracy” is a term made famous by J. L. Talmon to refer to a system of government in which lawfully elected representatives maintain the integrity of a nation state whose citizens, while granted the right to vote, have little or no participation in the decision-making process of the government.

a. Cultural totalitarianism is rule by the individual freed from all external authority or constraints, morality fully privatized with Judeo-Christian traditions under attack.

b. Moral and cultural relativism are predominant; no lifestyle is better than any other.

c. Paradoxically, relativist doctrine becomes absolutely unassailable: it brooks no challenges or deviations.



Any of the above sound familiar?

 

[PoliticalChic]

What???

Still no takers?

After all the vituperation, the post directed at lil' ol' me......none of the big brave Leftists, Obama supporters, reliable Democrat voters, etc.....

...none posting in support of the Democrat/Liberal/Progressive drive to censor free speech????


So sad.

No courage of their convictions.




12. " The first amendment protects all speech, not just speech that we like. Or else who would decide what’s good and what’s forbidden? Hakeem? When I was a young girl, the Nazis were given permission to march in a predominately Jewish neighborhood. In those days, Nazi mean something. Morality was still very much in the American DNA. Good and evil was understood — unlike today, where the left has banished such terms. Despite the horror of a Nazi march, they were given permission, and those of us who were repelled by such a monstrous action understood why permission was granted because of the underlying premise — free speech. I didn’t worry that their Nazi ideas would take hold, as long as I could speak and others could speak in the free exchange of ideas. I knew I would win because my ideas were better. Individual rights was the greatest achievement of the enlightened."
Sharia in America: Democrats and Muslim Legislators seek to criminalize free speech | Pamela Geller, Atlas Shrugs




In your eye, Leftists!

 

[PaintMyHouse]

In your eye, Leftists!

If all speech is protected, why isn't all speech protected?

 

[PoliticalChic]

So, the Left....the Liberals/Democrats/Progressives....invented a term they could use in place of "censorship."

"Hate speech."



13. "By hate speech, they mean anything that offends someone else. Speaking out against homosexuality in any way could be considered to be hate speech. The televised sermon of a preacher quoting the Bible in his sermon could be considered hate speech if someone hears it and becomes offended because they are being convicted of their of the sins.

Anyone writing or posting on the Internet that criticizes homosexuals, liberal Democrats, Muslims or illegal aliens could be considered to be engaging in hate crimes. In fact, Alex Nogales, President & CEO of the National Hispanic Media Coalition supports the bill, saying:

“I thank Senator Markey for his career-long commitment to ensuring that we have the data necessary to confront and combat hate speech in the media that targets our most vulnerable communities. NHMC has long-recognized that an update to the National Telecommunications and Information Administration's 1993 report, ‘The Role of Telecommunications in Hate Crimes’, is long overdue and desperately needed given the incredible evolution of our communications systems over the past 21 years as well as the ever-increasing numbers of hate crimes targeting Latinos and others. As the author of the original piece of legislation directing the 1993 report, there is nobody better than Senator Markey to join Congressman Hakeem Jeffries and others in calling on the NTIA to study this pressing issue once again.”

Senator Introduces Bill to Silence Christians and Conservatives



How come none of our board Lefties are ready to jump on board? Hey...you voted for these guys.....that's your team out there.....the Fascists!

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Oh my, our cut and paste queenie is at it again. No, President Wilson was not a Fascist, nor have any of our Presidents been Fascists. As with evolution and global warming, you simply once again display your abysmal ignorance and gullibility.

She lost me in her first line about how liberals here tell you to "go away or STFU". Ha! I've been told much worse than that by her pals on here.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Oh my, our cut and paste queenie is at it again. No, President Wilson was not a Fascist, nor have any of our Presidents been Fascists. As with evolution and global warming, you simply once again display your abysmal ignorance and gullibility.

She lost me in her first line about how liberals here tell you to "go away or STFU". Ha! I've been told much worse than that by her pals on here.

1. I've never said that to anyone.

2. It is Liberal Democrats as authors of a bill to control free speech.


None of you have the nerve to respond to that.

 

[Synthaholic]

Still running from the question.

There is no question. Just another fact-free cut and paste from the human Xerox machine.

I'm certain that my point has been proven. As an good fascist, 'reliable Democrat voter,' you find it impossible to criticize Reid and the indefensible attempts to silence any opposing voice.

So...what you evince is a puerile changing of the subject.



Or.....grow a pair and take a stance on the topic.

You have no point! Your premise is based on biased spin.


You wrote (presumably with a straight face):

3. In recent weeks, people across the political spectrum professed to be aghast when a small coterie of "offended" students shut down commencement speeches by conservatives, centrists and liberals.

4. How, the world of astonished adults wondered, have these students come to believe they could shut people up on any aggrieved whim? They got it from the Majority Leader of the United States Senate and 49 senators. They got it from the many adults who think a little restriction on some speech is OK,....

5. It's part of a broader, active effort to define and limit what people can say—not just in politics or sports, but anywhere anyone tries to open his or her mouth.

No students shut down any commencement speeches. Some students protested speakers, but none of the potential speakers were denied their first amendment right to free speech.

This is fact, and it is undeniable.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Wrong, as alwals. Wilson definitely was a fascist, and FDR was an even bigger fascists. Our system of government under FDR was indistinguishable from the Third Reich. Every Dim president since FDR and most of the Republicans have been fascists. Fascism is the American way nowadays. Our freedom disappeared long ago.

Apparently your freedom to repeatedly blurt out the fascist like a mental patient hasn't disappeared.

about your quote:

"Both in theory and practice, National Socialism opposes liberalism. (Joseph Goebbels, 1933)"

In Germany liberals are people who believe in laizzes faire capitalism. So the Nazis opposed liazzes faire capitalism. Who do we know of in the U.S. who opposes laizzes faire capitalism?

Your quote only proves that your an ignoramus who doesn't know the slightest thing about European politics or economics.

Goebbels also said this in the same speech:

It is a warning for the entire liberal world that Germany has replaced democracy with an authoritarian system, that liberalism broke under the blows of the national uprising, that parliamentarianism and the party system are outdated concepts for us.

Which side are you on again? Not the liberal side, but the authoritarian side?

hmmm......

 

[Crystalclear]

Democrats are authoritarian, but fascism seems extreme to me. Still, conservatives are also very close to it, even though they might not realize it yet.
Conservatives support a government that can kill people by using the death penalty, support an agency that (the DEA) wants to take the right away for people to choose what they want to put in their body, support a police state wherein a lot of peaceful immigrants are deported, support the NSA spying on citizens and big armies fighting in name of counterterrorism. They also want to take away the right for gays to marry and for women to choose for abortion.
So conservatives are hypocrite to think that only Democrats are authoritarian. The Republicans and Democrats both are.

 

[Pheonixops]

The fact is the greatest liberal of the Wilson era was Robert LaFollette, who opposed WWI, and much of the other crap the author of this thread is trying to pass off as liberalism.

So glad you brought up Republican LaFollette.....who hated the racist Democrats!


While LaFollette was not at home with the businessman-politician that was coming to dominate the Republican Party, he could not abide the Democrats, whose stronghold was the South, where they now engaged in depriving black citizens of the right to vote.

African-Americans would have progressed beyond the new immigrants, LaFollette declared, if they “had been fairly treated, if they had received kindly recognition, if they had been given the opportunity to make homes for themselves, if their labor had been properly rewarded.”
David P. Thelen, “Robert LaFollette and the Insurgent Spirit,” p. 10-11.



Once again the evil, atavistic history of the Democrat Party is revealed!



LaFollette formed the Progressive Party in 1924.....well after Wilson's presidency.

What do you think that most of the conservatives and republicans of today would think of Robert LaFollette? Which party of today do you think would have more in common with his policies?

 

[Pheonixops]

The fact is the greatest liberal of the Wilson era was Robert LaFollette, who opposed WWI, and much of the other crap the author of this thread is trying to pass off as liberalism.

Pop quiz:

Do you know who beat LaFollette in his 1946 run for the Senate?

He died on June 18, 1925.................