Being Liberal Makes You a Fascist

[Pheonixops]

Wrong, as alwals. Wilson definitely was a fascist, and FDR was an even bigger fascists. Our system of government under FDR was indistinguishable from the Third Reich. Every Dim president since FDR and most of the Republicans have been fascists. Fascism is the American way nowadays. Our freedom disappeared long ago.

Apparently your freedom to repeatedly blurt out the fascist like a mental patient hasn't disappeared.

about your quote:

"Both in theory and practice, National Socialism opposes liberalism. (Joseph Goebbels, 1933)"

In Germany liberals are people who believe in laizzes faire capitalism. So the Nazis opposed liazzes faire capitalism. Who do we know of in the U.S. who opposes laizzes faire capitalism?

Your quote only proves that your an ignoramus who doesn't know the slightest thing about European politics or economics.

Doesn't that kind of mess up the premise of the OP? "Being Liberal Makes You a Fascist "

 

[bripat9643]

Apparently your freedom to repeatedly blurt out the fascist like a mental patient hasn't disappeared.

about your quote:

"Both in theory and practice, National Socialism opposes liberalism. (Joseph Goebbels, 1933)"

In Germany liberals are people who believe in laizzes faire capitalism. So the Nazis opposed liazzes faire capitalism. Who do we know of in the U.S. who opposes laizzes faire capitalism?

Your quote only proves that your an ignoramus who doesn't know the slightest thing about European politics or economics.

Doesn't that kind of mess up the premise of the OP? "Being Liberal Makes You a Fascist "

Uhmmmmmmmm . . . . no. This is going right over your head, isn't it?

 

[Political Junky]

Old Rocks in the head, are you really that ignorant!

Ronald Reagan defines fascism

I posted this as another thread before I saw PoliticalChicks post here, sorry about that.

Did Reagan invent that quote on the spot? He gave credit to someone he once heard say it, I doubt that.

 

[francoHFW]

Never heard that one...crazy shytte from the Great Dementor...

 

[Pheonixops]

about your quote:

"Both in theory and practice, National Socialism opposes liberalism. (Joseph Goebbels, 1933)"

In Germany liberals are people who believe in laizzes faire capitalism. So the Nazis opposed liazzes faire capitalism. Who do we know of in the U.S. who opposes laizzes faire capitalism?

Your quote only proves that your an ignoramus who doesn't know the slightest thing about European politics or economics.

Doesn't that kind of mess up the premise of the OP? "Being Liberal Makes You a Fascist "

Uhmmmmmmmm . . . . no. This is going right over your head, isn't it?

Please explain how a Fascist and National Socialist states that: ""Both in theory and practice, National Socialism opposes liberalism. ". That alone refutes the OP. Maybe it's going over your head?

 

[Political Junky]

Cultural Dictionary American Heritage
fascism [( fash -iz-uhm)]

A system of government that flourished in Europe from the 1920s to the end of World War II. Germany under Adolf Hitler, Italy under Mussolini, and Spain under Franco were all fascist states. As a rule, fascist governments are dominated by a dictator, who usually possesses a magnetic personality, wears a showy uniform, and rallies his followers by mass parades; appeals to strident nationalism; and promotes suspicion or hatred of both foreigners and “impure” people within his own nation, such as the Jews in Germany. Although both communism and fascism are forms of totalitarianism, fascism does not demand state ownership of the means of production, nor is fascism committed to the achievement of economic equality. In theory, communism opposes the identification of government with a single charismatic leader (the “ cult of personality&#8221, which is the cornerstone of fascism. Whereas communists are considered left-wing, fascists are usually described as right-wing.

 

[GreenBean]

Oh my, our cut and paste queenie is at it again. No, President Wilson was not a Fascist, nor have any of our Presidents been Fascists. As with evolution and global warming, you simply once again display your abysmal ignorance and gullibility.

Wilson may not have been a textbook fascist in the same fashion as Mussolini , Hitler or even Franco - but he was the closest thing the USA had to fascism untill rceently. Todays Liberal-Progressive machine or "socio-fascists" have taken it a step further. Liberal Fascism / Socialism is rising , bolstered by hoards of useful idiots who can't see past the ends of their noses, and mesmerized and conditioned by decades of socio-fascist programming .

 

[bripat9643]

Doesn't that kind of mess up the premise of the OP? "Being Liberal Makes You a Fascist "

Uhmmmmmmmm . . . . no. This is going right over your head, isn't it?

Please explain how a Fascist and National Socialist states that: ""Both in theory and practice, National Socialism opposes liberalism. ". That alone refutes the OP. Maybe it's going over your head?

As I already explained, dumbass, in Europe a liberal is someone who believes in capitalism. In other words a European liberal is an American right-winger.

 

[bripat9643]

Oh my, our cut and paste queenie is at it again. No, President Wilson was not a Fascist, nor have any of our Presidents been Fascists. As with evolution and global warming, you simply once again display your abysmal ignorance and gullibility.

Wilson may not have been a textbook fascist in the same fashion as Mussolini , Hitler or even Franco - but he was the closest thing the USA had to fascism untill rceently. Todays Liberal-Progressive machine or "socio-fascists" have taken it a step further. Liberal Fascism / Socialism is rising , bolstered by hoards of useful idiots who can't see past the ends of their noses, and mesmerized and conditioned by decades of socio-fascist programming .

Actually, Wilson was a textbook fascists. They just didn't have the terminology in 1918 to label it properly.

 

[GreenBean]

Uhmmmmmmmm . . . . no. This is going right over your head, isn't it?

Please explain how a Fascist and National Socialist states that: ""Both in theory and practice, National Socialism opposes liberalism. ". That alone refutes the OP. Maybe it's going over your head?

As I already explained, dumbass, in Europe a liberal is someone who believes in capitalism. In other words a European liberal is an American right-winger.

You mean in Europe , they understand the true meaning of 'Liberal' , they don't babble in Orwellian Newspeak and they understand that American Liberals are Fascists

 

[Billo_Really]

Under Progressive President Woodrow Wilson America was the first Fascist nation.
Newspapers and magazines were closed for criticizing the government
Almost 100,000 government propaganda agents were sent out to whip up support for the regime and the war
Nearly a quarter million ‘goons’ were given legal authority to beat and intimidate ‘slackers’ and dissenters.
http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/Classical_Liberalism_vs_Modern_Liberal_Conservatism.pdf p. 9




Take note of frequency with which Liberal board members attempt to shut down opposing voices, telling others to go away and/or "STFU" in one form or another.

There is only one reason for this desire: in the market place of ideas, they lose.




Daniel Henninger spotlights the latest iteration of fascism:

1. "Harry Reid is the Majority Leader of the Senate of the United States. He occupies a position of influence at the pinnacle of the American system of government. Of late, the senator from Nevada has become a one-man, First Amendment wrecking crew.

2. If ... your political opinions offend Harry Reid's ears...Sen. Reid will use his office to try to shut you up or make you disappear.



3. In recent weeks, people across the political spectrum professed to be aghast when a small coterie of "offended" students shut down commencement speeches by conservatives, centrists and liberals.

4. How, the world of astonished adults wondered, have these students come to believe they could shut people up on any aggrieved whim? They got it from the Majority Leader of the United States Senate and 49 senators. They got it from the many adults who think a little restriction on some speech is OK,....

5. It's part of a broader, active effort to define and limit what people can say—not just in politics or sports, but anywhere anyone tries to open his or her mouth.





6. The New York Times, the New Republic and others have carried articles on the suppressive phenomenon known as "trigger warnings" for college courses. The idea is that professors should post warnings about course content that may "trigger" traumatic memories or thoughts in some students for a list of reasons related to feminist concerns, sex and multiple violations of social justice.

7. Last fall at a private party at Lewis & Clark College in Portland, Ore., two athletes—one of them white, the other black—were overheard trading racial jokes during a game of beer pong. Someone reported them to the administration. Lewis & Clark convicted the students of hate speech and ordered them to undergo "Bias Reduction and Bystander Intervention Training."




8. In another corner of Harry Reid's Senate sits an attempt to expand federal surveillance of "hate speech." Sen. Edward Markey of Massachusetts just introduced a bill called the Hate Crimes Reporting Act. Its purpose, said Sen. Markey, is "to ensure the Internet, television and radio are not encouraging hate crimes and hate speech that is not outside the protections of the First Amendment." The potential causes of offense are "gender, race, religion, ethnicity or sexual orientation." In other words, anything.



9. Sophisticates will recognize that the bill should be better known as the Shut Up Fox News and Rush Limbaugh Act (newspapers are protected from any such regulation).
But on their current, unrestrained course, federally deputized talk censors would get around to cleansing and sterilizing MSNBC, too.




10. We are moving way past the amusements of political correctness. A creeping, even creepy, effort is under way to shut people up for a broad swath of offenses. The distance is shortening between the First Amendment's formal protections and a "Fahrenheit 451" regime for torching speech in America. The time for adult pushback is overdue."
Harry Reid Hates the Redskins - WSJ.com




Attention Liberals: this is what you voted for....."adults who think a little restriction on some speech is OK,...."

....twice.

Listen twisted sister, memories of how I was treated by you fuckers whenever I protested the Iraq war are still fresh in my mind. So don't take this the wrong way, it's not that I want you to shut up, it's just that I have no interest in seeing what you have to say.

Let's not forget, it was your side that nullified the Bill of Rights.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The fact is the greatest liberal of the Wilson era was Robert LaFollette, who opposed WWI, and much of the other crap the author of this thread is trying to pass off as liberalism.

So glad you brought up Republican LaFollette.....who hated the racist Democrats!


While LaFollette was not at home with the businessman-politician that was coming to dominate the Republican Party, he could not abide the Democrats, whose stronghold was the South, where they now engaged in depriving black citizens of the right to vote.

African-Americans would have progressed beyond the new immigrants, LaFollette declared, if they “had been fairly treated, if they had received kindly recognition, if they had been given the opportunity to make homes for themselves, if their labor had been properly rewarded.”
David P. Thelen, “Robert LaFollette and the Insurgent Spirit,” p. 10-11.



Once again the evil, atavistic history of the Democrat Party is revealed!



LaFollette formed the Progressive Party in 1924.....well after Wilson's presidency.

What do you think that most of the conservatives and republicans of today would think of Robert LaFollette? Which party of today do you think would have more in common with his policies?

It's so funny how these modern day Republican conservatives like PC want to claim liberal Republicans from a century ago as their own,

while in the meantime they're trying to purge the current GOP of anyone to the left of Ted Cruz.

 

[NYcarbineer]

12. " The first amendment protects all speech, not just speech that we like. Or else who would decide what’s good and what’s forbidden? Hakeem? When I was a young girl, the Nazis were given permission to march in a predominately Jewish neighborhood. In those days, Nazi mean something. Morality was still very much in the American DNA. Good and evil was understood — unlike today, where the left has banished such terms. Despite the horror of a Nazi march, they were given permission, and those of us who were repelled by such a monstrous action understood why permission was granted because of the underlying premise — free speech. I didn’t worry that their Nazi ideas would take hold, as long as I could speak and others could speak in the free exchange of ideas. I knew I would win because my ideas were better. Individual rights was the greatest achievement of the enlightened."
Sharia in America: Democrats and Muslim Legislators seek to criminalize free speech | Pamela Geller, Atlas Shrugs




In your eye, Leftists!

Pam Geller spearheaded the movement to prevent the so-called ground zero mosque from being built,
trying to trample on that other portion of the 1st Amendment.

The irony of you quoting Geller as a champion of the 1st Amendment is USMB comedy gold!

 

[NYcarbineer]

[8. In another corner of Harry Reid's Senate sits an attempt to expand federal surveillance of "hate speech." Sen. Edward Markey of Massachusetts just introduced a bill called the Hate Crimes Reporting Act. Its purpose, said Sen. Markey, is "to ensure the Internet, television and radio are not encouraging hate crimes and hate speech that is not outside the protections of the First Amendment." The potential causes of offense are "gender, race, religion, ethnicity or sexual orientation." In other words, anything.



9. Sophisticates will recognize that the bill should be better known as the Shut Up Fox News and Rush Limbaugh Act (newspapers are protected from any such regulation).
But on their current, unrestrained course, federally deputized talk censors would get around to cleansing and sterilizing MSNBC, too.

Well, the fact of this bill, in short is this...assuming it's okay to actually quote the actual text of the bill:

It calls for a report, which would:

(2) include any recommendations, consistent with the
First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, that
the NTIA determines are appropriate and necessary to address
the use of telecommunications described in paragraph (1); and
``(3) update the previous report submitted under this
section (as in effect before the date of enactment of the Hate
Crime Reporting Act of 2014).''.

 

[Clementine]

Wilson was the worst president in history. Selling the country out by signing off on legislation written by banks and creating the Federal Reserve, attempting to control the media and then making income tax permanent. That fascist paved the way for the current far left agenda.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Cultural Dictionary American Heritage
fascism [( fash -iz-uhm)]

A system of government that flourished in Europe from the 1920s to the end of World War II. Germany under Adolf Hitler, Italy under Mussolini, and Spain under Franco were all fascist states. As a rule, fascist governments are dominated by a dictator, who usually possesses a magnetic personality, wears a showy uniform, and rallies his followers by mass parades; appeals to strident nationalism; and promotes suspicion or hatred of both foreigners and “impure” people within his own nation, such as the Jews in Germany. Although both communism and fascism are forms of totalitarianism, fascism does not demand state ownership of the means of production, nor is fascism committed to the achievement of economic equality. In theory, communism opposes the identification of government with a single charismatic leader (the “ cult of personality”), which is the cornerstone of fascism. Whereas communists are considered left-wing, fascists are usually described as right-wing.

Correct.

Fascism is on the right side of the political spectrum.

It’s ignorant partisan demagoguery on the part of conservatives to seek to associate ‘liberals’ with ‘fascists.’

Common themes of Fascism are reactionaryism, fear of change, diversity, and dissent, as well as authoritarianism, a self-perception of moral superiority, and an advocacy of militarism.

Although modern American conservatives are not ‘fascists,’ they nonetheless share many common traits as well as the roots of the same political family tree, the doctrine of Social Darwinism in particular.

 

[KNB]

Uhmmmmmmmm . . . . no. This is going right over your head, isn't it?

Please explain how a Fascist and National Socialist states that: ""Both in theory and practice, National Socialism opposes liberalism. ". That alone refutes the OP. Maybe it's going over your head?

As I already explained, dumbass, in Europe a liberal is someone who believes in capitalism. In other words a European liberal is an American right-winger.

Wow. That makes even less than no sense at all. Why do you even try?

 

[PoliticalChic]

There is no question. Just another fact-free cut and paste from the human Xerox machine.

I'm certain that my point has been proven. As an good fascist, 'reliable Democrat voter,' you find it impossible to criticize Reid and the indefensible attempts to silence any opposing voice.

So...what you evince is a puerile changing of the subject.



Or.....grow a pair and take a stance on the topic.

You have no point! Your premise is based on biased spin.


You wrote (presumably with a straight face):

3. In recent weeks, people across the political spectrum professed to be aghast when a small coterie of "offended" students shut down commencement speeches by conservatives, centrists and liberals.

4. How, the world of astonished adults wondered, have these students come to believe they could shut people up on any aggrieved whim? They got it from the Majority Leader of the United States Senate and 49 senators. They got it from the many adults who think a little restriction on some speech is OK,....

5. It's part of a broader, active effort to define and limit what people can say—not just in politics or sports, but anywhere anyone tries to open his or her mouth.

No students shut down any commencement speeches. Some students protested speakers, but none of the potential speakers were denied their first amendment right to free speech.

This is fact, and it is undeniable.

You know that's not true.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Cultural Dictionary American Heritage
fascism [( fash -iz-uhm)]

A system of government that flourished in Europe from the 1920s to the end of World War II. Germany under Adolf Hitler, Italy under Mussolini, and Spain under Franco were all fascist states. As a rule, fascist governments are dominated by a dictator, who usually possesses a magnetic personality, wears a showy uniform, and rallies his followers by mass parades; appeals to strident nationalism; and promotes suspicion or hatred of both foreigners and “impure” people within his own nation, such as the Jews in Germany. Although both communism and fascism are forms of totalitarianism, fascism does not demand state ownership of the means of production, nor is fascism committed to the achievement of economic equality. In theory, communism opposes the identification of government with a single charismatic leader (the “ cult of personality”), which is the cornerstone of fascism. Whereas communists are considered left-wing, fascists are usually described as right-wing.

Correct.

Fascism is on the right side of the political spectrum.

It’s ignorant partisan demagoguery on the part of conservatives to seek to associate ‘liberals’ with ‘fascists.’

Common themes of Fascism are reactionaryism, fear of change, diversity, and dissent, as well as authoritarianism, a self-perception of moral superiority, and an advocacy of militarism.

Although modern American conservatives are not ‘fascists,’ they nonetheless share many common traits as well as the roots of the same political family tree, the doctrine of Social Darwinism in particular.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

 

[natstew]

Being a liberal, fascist, socialist, communist, progressive makes you either a blithering idiot, or a criminally insane authoritarian sociopath.

And a bed wetter.

You can NOT have a liberal/socialist/populist government without the use of FORCE.

It just can't be done.

Impossible.

That is why every populist revolution in the History of Man has turned from being a popular/populist movement into a tyrannical, dictatorial, murdering, imprisoning blood-fest.

Every one of them. Every time.

Conservatives and , to a lesser extent, Republicans know this. We eschew populism because we have a brain. We know what happens when populist leaders like Fidel, Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Hitler, 'Ugo, Pol Pot, Uncle Ho and every other murdering scumbag leftist in the history of this world takes power.

It isn't so much that we object to the goals -- Egalitarianism isn't really all that bad. Neither is a little bit of wealth redistribution.

Health Care for all is a laudable goal and so is ending poverty.

But here's the rub..... It never stops there.

There are laws that have to be passed to make these things possible.

And Laws are useless without enforcement.

Look at that word for a second or two.

Tell me what you see. What do you see in the word 'enforcement' that libturds are too stupid to understand?

I'll tell you, it is enFORCEment.

You have to enFORCE laws to make them work. Without the use of force (try not paying your taxes and see what happens) none of it works.

Conservatives and most Republicans don't want the government using force on its citizens any more than absolutely necessary.

dimocrap scum want goobermint to FORCE us to do their bidding. To FORCE us to eat they way they want. To FORCE us to think the way they want (ask Donald Sterling or the Dolphins Don Jones) to FORCE us to give up our hard-earned money. To FORCE us to change our morals. To FORCE......

You get the picture.

To dimocrap scum, the goobermint is everything. Know why?

Simple, because they and only they can use FORCE of law to get their way.

dimocraps are the scum of the earth, people.

The only thing that separates them from Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc is that they don't have control of the Army.

That is NOT a point in rhetoric. THAT is a fact.

It is why the hate the Military. Because they know that the United States Military would swat them like a troublesome bug if they tried to do what they really want to do -- Gulags, re-education camps, etc.

That will be the next major battle we wage. To keep dimocrap scum from taking over the Military.

They're trying. Hard. really hard.

And they're making some inroads.

Be aware, people. I'm not kidding when I call dimocraps the scum of the earth.

They're worse than that.

I agree totally with all of the above.