johnrocks
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I don't think marijuana is safe; holding smoke in your lungs can't be healthy; but it's called freedom and personal responsibility, too many can't wrap their heads around that.
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What the smuck does "organic" have to do with anything? Nightshade and hemlock are both "organic", but they'll still kill you.
Then, of course--you have a link to anyone--over the decades that has ended up in one of our emergency rooms because of an overdose of marijuana--or one that has died of some kind of lung disease--over long term use of it.
Then maybe--you'll show some credibility.
The facts are: That our forefathers were fined if they did not grow marijuana plants--whose bi-products were used for rope and tents. George Washinton's main crop was the marijuana plant--and our declaration of independence is written on hemp paper.
Yawn.
This took all of 15 seconds. The internet is great.
Marijuana Smokers Face Rapid Lung Destruction -- As Much As 20 Years Ahead Of Tobacco Smokers
If you want to get down to "facts" on this subject, none of the three things mentioned are any good for you the way MOST people actually use them.
/sigh...
Even as a Monthly/Social Weed smoker it's ridiculous to say there are 0 deaths caused by Weed..
I know 1 person who has actually gotten severely injured under the use of Pot.. Not to mention the people i know telling me stories about people who have died under the use.
Then, of course--you have a link to anyone--over the decades that has ended up in one of our emergency rooms because of an overdose of marijuana--or one that has died of some kind of lung disease--over long term use of it.
Then maybe--you'll show some credibility.
The facts are: That our forefathers were fined if they did not grow marijuana plants--whose bi-products were used for rope and tents. George Washinton's main crop was the marijuana plant--and our declaration of independence is written on hemp paper.
Yawn.
This took all of 15 seconds. The internet is great.
Marijuana Smokers Face Rapid Lung Destruction -- As Much As 20 Years Ahead Of Tobacco Smokers
That study was conducted with a sample of 10 patients. This is not a misprint.
Bullous lung disease due to marijuana
HII SW, TAM JDC, THOMPSON BR, NAUGHTON MT. Respirology 2008; 13: 122-127 Background and objective: 
In contrast to the well-described effects of tobacco smoking upon pulmonary emphysema, with ∼15% of smokers being affected at the age of 65 years, the effects of marijuana smoking are rarely reported and poorly understood. Methods: 
We report a series of 10 patients (mean age 41 ± 9 years, eight male, two female), who presented over a period of 12 months to our respiratory unit with new respiratory symptoms, and who admitted to regular chronic marijuana smoking (>1 year continuously). Symptoms on presentation were dyspnoea (n = 4), pneumothorax (n = 4) and chest infection (n = 2). Results: 
Then, of course--you have a link to anyone--over the decades that has ended up in one of our emergency rooms because of an overdose of marijuana--or one that has died of some kind of lung disease--over long term use of it.
Then maybe--you'll show some credibility.
The facts are: That our forefathers were fined if they did not grow marijuana plants--whose bi-products were used for rope and tents. George Washinton's main crop was the marijuana plant--and our declaration of independence is written on hemp paper.
Yawn.
This took all of 15 seconds. The internet is great.
Marijuana Smokers Face Rapid Lung Destruction -- As Much As 20 Years Ahead Of Tobacco Smokers
Yeah--I figured you would link up to another site--that was paid for by big pharmacutical--congrats. Kind of like looking at global warming stats--LOL.
You still have not brought up the NAME of one single individual that has ended up in the emergency room--and or that has actually DIED of long term use of marijuana.
Then, of course--you have a link to anyone--over the decades that has ended up in one of our emergency rooms because of an overdose of marijuana--or one that has died of some kind of lung disease--over long term use of it.
Then maybe--you'll show some credibility.
The facts are: That our forefathers were fined if they did not grow marijuana plants--whose bi-products were used for rope and tents. George Washinton's main crop was the marijuana plant--and our declaration of independence is written on hemp paper.
Yawn.
This took all of 15 seconds. The internet is great.
Marijuana Smokers Face Rapid Lung Destruction -- As Much As 20 Years Ahead Of Tobacco Smokers
Yeah--I figured you would link up to another site--that was paid for by big pharmacutical--congrats. Kind of like looking at global warming stats--LOL.
You still have not brought up the NAME of one single individual that has ended up in the emergency room--and or that has actually DIED of long term use of marijuana.
Just to let you know people have been smoking marijuana for centuries.
It's a well known fact that nicotine is the MOST addictive drug--out of any other narcotic--including heroin, crack/cocain.
But does it cause perception alteration to the point where you can cause harm to others like alcohol and marijuana can?? That was the point of this thread, wasn't it??
The answer to your question:
Ask any cop: Do you have more problems with alcohol related crime or marijuana users?
I think you already know the answer to this.
/sigh...
Even as a Monthly/Social Weed smoker it's ridiculous to say there are 0 deaths caused by Weed..
I know 1 person who has actually gotten severely injured under the use of Pot.. Not to mention the people i know telling me stories about people who have died under the use.
Thanks for playing the Ignorant game, come back next week for more.
If there were someone/anyone that the Federal Government and the Pharmacutical industry could get a name on that actually died from long term use of marijuana--they would have a 24/7 advertisement against it. You know it--I know it.
As far as you know someone that got "severely injured"--give me a freaking break. Now go talk to your drunk neighbor that fell off of his porch and broke his leg---
Ignorance at it's best.
Sure, no one has died due to Overdose.. But being under the effect of it? Sure.. I've been there, saw it myself.
Why are two of the above legal but the one isn't?
- 75000 die a year from alcohol related incidents.
- 0 die a year from Marijuana related incidents.
Why the hell can you drink as much alcohol as you want in America but a person can't smoke a joint without worrying about doing jail time? Simple question, please answer to the point.
WRONG!!!!!
Factor in how many thugs are killed in drug deals gone bad, and you'll have the correct number of weed related deaths.
But does it cause perception alteration to the point where you can cause harm to others like alcohol and marijuana can?? That was the point of this thread, wasn't it??
The answer to your question:
Ask any cop: Do you have more problems with alcohol related crime or marijuana users?
I think you already know the answer to this.
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I was one for 8 years in Atlanta. I'll answer it.
The total number of problems from alcohol users and weed users? About the same. True, 99% of DUI's are from alcohol. Seldom if ever from weed. Sometimes heroin, crack, prescrips, etc. DUI is an alcohol problem, no doubt.
But, you said "problems", not DUI's. Problems stemming from weed use include unemployment, car break ins, larceny, burglary, shoplifting, etc. Basically stealing shit to get money because they can't keep a job.
So, I basically think weed makes you more of whatever you already are. Lazy, smart, criminal, theif, artist, whatever.
Alcohol leaves the system generally in 24 hours or less depending on quanity consumed. Nicotine requires up to seven days to clear the system and marijuana up to four weeks depending on how much is consumed.
Why are two of the above legal but the one isn't?
- 75000 die a year from alcohol related incidents.
- 0 die a year from Marijuana related incidents.
Why the hell can you drink as much alcohol as you want in America but a person can't smoke a joint without worrying about doing jail time? Simple question, please answer to the point.
Get your facts straight and then maybe we can talk. No one died from a marijuana related incident? Really? Link please.
Why are two of the above legal but the one isn't?
- 75000 die a year from alcohol related incidents.
- 0 die a year from Marijuana related incidents.
Why the hell can you drink as much alcohol as you want in America but a person can't smoke a joint without worrying about doing jail time? Simple question, please answer to the point.
What do cigarettes have to do with this? Are you claiming they are also a perception altering substance??
lol of course they are
nicotine's mood-altering effects are different by report: in particular it is both a stimulant and a relaxant.
why are two of the above legal but the one isn't?
- 75000 die a year from alcohol related incidents.
- 0 die a year from marijuana related incidents.
Why the hell can you drink as much alcohol as you want in america but a person can't smoke a joint without worrying about doing jail time? Simple question, please answer to the point.
wrong!!!!!
Factor in how many thugs are killed in drug deals gone bad, and you'll have the correct number of weed related deaths.
So if someone was shot during a bank robbery i get to blame it on money?
Despite containing less carcinogens than tobacco, the manner in which marijuana is smoked (holding it in) results greater deposits of tar and carcinogenic chemicals)What do cigarettes have to do with this? Are you claiming they are also a perception altering substance??
No. But cigarettes do cause 435,000 deaths a year.
Then, of course--you have a link to anyone--over the decades that has ended up in one of our emergency rooms because of an overdose of marijuana--or one that has died of some kind of lung disease--over long term use of it.
*facepalm*
The connection between marijuana (smoking) and cancer is well-established