FistyTheBadger
King of the Badgers
- Dec 12, 2008
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There was a little spiking, but the evidence sold itself. They did it.These blokes were tried and convicted right? Did they get a fair trial or was it a fitup?
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There was a little spiking, but the evidence sold itself. They did it.These blokes were tried and convicted right? Did they get a fair trial or was it a fitup?
There was a little spiking, but the evidence sold itself. They did it.
There is no specific evidence to back this up, but just from following the story from the beginning I think that they have appealed as far as they are willing to go even if they can go further.Have they appealed as far as they can go? I'm sorry to ask but I did read about this some time ago and then I just let it go when the trial process finished. So, are they appealing or is it all over?
How do we know any of what Monica is saying is true?
Would you leave a dog home alone for 2 or 3 days?
Would you report a Border Patrol agent to the Department of Homeland Security for giving a speech?
I kind of doubt it.
IMO, Monica is a liar and I feel sorry for her kids.
Because there is no police report that I can find. All this information comes from some interview she gave.How did you reach this opinion ?
Because there is no police report that I can find. All this information comes from some interview she gave.
Are you this stupid in real life?therefore she must be lying ?
Are you this stupid in real life?
1. So you claim to know more than the report? You have a source for this info that contradicts the article?
2. But for the grace of God, there go I. Quite the unforgiving, judgemental bullshit.
I have no problem with them being held accountable. I think holding their families accountable is chickenshit, and I think unequal application of the law is just as chickenshit.
These guys got hammered beyond anything reasonable because they were on the front page. Simple as that.
When was the last time a politician served any hard time for falsifying information on a government document; which, btw, carries a max fine of $5K and 5 years in prison under Title 17, USC? That's right ... you haven't.
The report is completely unbelievable.
Bullshit. I've never crossed the line. Not even close. Nor have most of the guys I've worked with done so. And trust me, it is VERY CLEAR in most of our minds. I'll tell you what...talk to me about men who violate the Marines code of honor and dishonor their uniform, and your tolerance for them.
That's how I feel about these guys.
Was the victim a good guy? Nope. Total scumbag. But that is IRRELEVANT. Because, if an officer will treat a scumbag that way, and gets away with it, he's abusing the rights of other people, GUARANTEED.
It's not chickenshit to say, to this woman, that her circumstances are no different than any other family of a convicted felon. You don't want to do the time? Don't do the crime.
NO. They got hammered because it is their job to uphold the law, and we as citizens have a right to hold them to a higher standard, and in fact, within the field, they should hold themselves to a higher standard. When one cop violates the law, it hurts every other cop, decreases the respect for the profession just that much more, makes everyone else's job just that much more dangerous.
So fuck sympathy for these guys. They dishonored the badge. They were found guilty by a jury of their peers, like any other felon. They were sentenced just like any other criminal, and that's what they are...criminals.
Cops are not above the law, and we can never allow them to become above the law. If anything, they MUST be held to a stricter standard because the public's trust in them is so important, and because their role in our society is so important.
Then we should fix that situation. But that doesn't justify not prosecuting these guys to the fullest extent of the law.
Nothing is more intolerable to me than a dirty cop.
I think most would like to see them get a break as a symbolic gesture to show that we actually care about illegal border crossings since so little real efforts are made to rectify the situation.
They would have if they weren't dirty and hadn't lied. They don't deserve a symbolic gesture.
I think most would like to see them get a break as a symbolic gesture to show that we actually care about illegal border crossings since so little real efforts are made to rectify the situation.
The problem with that is that it sends a very dangerous message, both to law enforcement professionals, and to the rest of society, that cops are above the laws that constrain us lesser mortals. That is not a scenario that I can condone.
Do you know how I KNOW beyond a shadow of a doubt that they're dirty? Because they removed evidence from the scene and didn't file their reports. They hoped their dirty little deeds would disappear.
Complete and utter bullshit.
And, I GUARANTEE they've done this before and gotten away with it because the population they are policing typically has no recourse.
Do I hate the idea of illegal immigration? You have NO FUCKING IDEA how much I hate it. But I hate dirty cops more.
YOu want to do something about illegal immigration? Good. We're on the same page. As far as I'm concerned, illegal border crossings should be a shoot on sight scenario.
But change the laws. Don't reward cops for breaking them simply because their lawbreaking fits your agenda.
Which doesn't change the fact of why people would like for them to get one.
Rich was hardly 'worthy' of his forgiveness.
Rich was practically a terrorist. He should never have been pardoned.
But, pardoning these guys when they clearly violated the laws and tarnished their badges would actually have a more detrimental impact on our society. It would send the message that vigilanteism is acceptable, and that border police don't have to follow the law in their treatment of illegals.