Atlanta Fire Chief Fired for Writing Christian Book

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Christians have no rights. I'm surprised we're not wearing yellow star patches by now. Or crosses. I'm sure that's not too far in the future.

 

[Disir]

Sure they do.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Free Speech isn't free, sometimes it can cost you big time. Keep that in mind, as well as the fact that Jesus said faith in him wouldn't be a cakewalk.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Christians have no rights. I'm surprised we're not wearing yellow star patches by now. Or crosses. I'm sure that's not too far in the future.

More drama queen than all of Castro Street.

 

[regent]

As long as we don't demand "The Whole Truth" we can make many things political with good guys and bad guys.

 

[boilermaker55]

Do you believe this emphatically?

From the Washington Post

Cochran wrote: “Uncleanness — whatever is opposite of purity; including sodomy, homosexuality, lesbianism, pederasty, bestiality, all other forms of sexual perversion.”

In another section, Cochran wrote that “naked men refuse to give in, so they pursue sexual fulfillment through multiple partners, with the opposite sex, the same sex and sex outside of marriage and many other vile, vulgar and inappropriate ways which defile their body-temple and dishonor God.”

The mayor’s administration learned about the book after employees complained about it last week.

Although the mayor’s decision to suspend Cochran seems to focus on Cochran’s comments about LGBT people, along with complaints about the chief distributing materials to employees,


I wonder how long I would keep my job if I were to hand out books to employees saying all Christian Righties are going to hell? LOL!

How about nobody loses their job for their private viewpoints and the practice of their faith?

That's the "liberalism" that defined this country to begin with.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Do you believe this emphatically?

From the Washington Post

Cochran wrote: “Uncleanness — whatever is opposite of purity; including sodomy, homosexuality, lesbianism, pederasty, bestiality, all other forms of sexual perversion.”

In another section, Cochran wrote that “naked men refuse to give in, so they pursue sexual fulfillment through multiple partners, with the opposite sex, the same sex and sex outside of marriage and many other vile, vulgar and inappropriate ways which defile their body-temple and dishonor God.”

The mayor’s administration learned about the book after employees complained about it last week.

Although the mayor’s decision to suspend Cochran seems to focus on Cochran’s comments about LGBT people, along with complaints about the chief distributing materials to employees,


I wonder how long I would keep my job if I were to hand out books to employees saying all Christian Righties are going to hell? LOL!

How about nobody loses their job for their private viewpoints and the practice of their faith?

That's the "liberalism" that defined this country to begin with.

Yes. It's your commitment to constitutional liberty in question, not mine.

 

[R.D.]

He was distributing an anti-gay bigotry book that he wrote to people who report to him. Anybody who has ever worked knows you can do things like that at work... Duh.

Atlanta fire chief suspended after distributing his religious book to employees - The Washington Post

That's inaccurate ...it's the contents of the book being objected to. If he was distributing a cookbook this would not be an issue

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

He was distributing an anti-gay bigotry book that he wrote to people who report to him. Anybody who has ever worked knows you can do things like that at work... Duh.

Atlanta fire chief suspended after distributing his religious book to employees - The Washington Post

That's inaccurate ...it's the contents of the book being objected to. If he was distributing a cookbook this would not be an issue

Who was forced to read his book?

 

[bodecea]

Ah....this is hest

Christians have no rights. I'm surprised we're not wearing yellow star patches by now. Or crosses. I'm sure that's not too far in the future.

Can you see your house from up there on that cross?

 

[bodecea]

Can I assume everyone would be defending this Fire Chief just as vehemently if it was Korans he was handing out?

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Ah....this is hest

Christians have no rights. I'm surprised we're not wearing yellow star patches by now. Or crosses. I'm sure that's not too far in the future.

Can you see your house from up there on that cross?

I look with amazement at my palms. A stigmata forms as we speak!

 

[R.D.]

My name is Carla, not Nancy Drew.

Mayor Kasim Reed’s spokeswoman Anne Torres said the administration didn’t know about “Who Told You That You Are Naked?” until employees came forward with complaints last week. In addition to suspending Cochran, Reed’s office has now opened an investigation to determine whether the chief’s actions violated the city policies or discriminated against employees.

Cochran has been ordered to undergo sensitivity training and has been barred from distributing copies of the book on city property after a number of firefighters said they received them in the workplace.

Reed said he was “deeply disturbed” by the sentiments Cochran expressed in his book and will “not tolerate discrimination of any kind” in his administration.

“I want to be clear that the material in Chief Cochran’s book is not representative of my personal beliefs, and is inconsistent with the administration’s work to make Atlanta a more welcoming city for all of her citizens — regardless of their sexual orientation, gender, race and religious beliefs,” Reed said in a statement on Monday.


Atlanta fire chief suspended over book controversy www.ajc.com

I'll attend your "sensitivity class" when you attend my church. Fair?

I don't care what you do. Freedom of speech doesn't necessarily mean you will have no consequences with employment.

Texas teacher fired after Ferguson tweets - CNN.com

This teacher learned her lesson the hard way.

She is a flat out racist and shouldn't be teaching kids with an attitude like that. The Chief wrote a book about religious views. His words and thoughts discriminate against no one unless and until it affects his decisions on the job.
He is not in his position to mold young minds. He is leading supposed adults.
If an adult is exposed to material he finds offensive, he is free to toss a book in a trash can, change the TV channel or walk away from a speaker.
I find myself doing that every year come State of the Union Speech time.

Our kids can't tune out or walk away from a teacher.

I understand your preference for the religious bigot, but it seems ludicrous to demand freedom of speech for one and not the other. What the Chief wrote is just as offensive to some, as what the teacher wrote.

Side note: This is why I always tell people to watch what you say on the internet. It can come back and bite you on the ass at the workplace!!! And that is why I created a facebook page, using an email address with no contacts, and certainly not my real name.

Offensive subject matter is simply offensive. It is protected by the First Amendment no matter how offensive it may be up to the point of libel or treason.
Cochran is a fire chief, leading supposed adults. His religious views are irrelevant to his leadership role unless you can show me that he required his firefighters to read and adhere to his writings. He did not force his views on children in a setting where they were compelled to be present.

Yeah, the left here just tries to take away your livelihood and freedoms for violating their delicate sensibilities....at least they don't shoot us. We're so lucky

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Can I assume everyone would be defending this Fire Chief just as vehemently if it was Korans he was handing out?

That would be quite a useful gift. Toilet paper is usually the first thing to run out in fire houses.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

I'll attend your "sensitivity class" when you attend my church. Fair?

I don't care what you do. Freedom of speech doesn't necessarily mean you will have no consequences with employment.

Texas teacher fired after Ferguson tweets - CNN.com

This teacher learned her lesson the hard way.

She is a flat out racist and shouldn't be teaching kids with an attitude like that. The Chief wrote a book about religious views. His words and thoughts discriminate against no one unless and until it affects his decisions on the job.
He is not in his position to mold young minds. He is leading supposed adults.
If an adult is exposed to material he finds offensive, he is free to toss a book in a trash can, change the TV channel or walk away from a speaker.
I find myself doing that every year come State of the Union Speech time.

Our kids can't tune out or walk away from a teacher.

I understand your preference for the religious bigot, but it seems ludicrous to demand freedom of speech for one and not the other. What the Chief wrote is just as offensive to some, as what the teacher wrote.

Side note: This is why I always tell people to watch what you say on the internet. It can come back and bite you on the ass at the workplace!!! And that is why I created a facebook page, using an email address with no contacts, and certainly not my real name.

Offensive subject matter is simply offensive. It is protected by the First Amendment no matter how offensive it may be up to the point of libel or treason.
Cochran is a fire chief, leading supposed adults. His religious views are irrelevant to his leadership role unless you can show me that he required his firefighters to read and adhere to his writings. He did not force his views on children in a setting where they were compelled to be present.

Yeah, the left here just tries to take away your livelihood and freedoms for violating their delicate sensibilities....at least they don't shoot us. We're so lucky

Yet.

They don't shoot us yet.

 

[bodecea]

Can I assume everyone would be defending this Fire Chief just as vehemently if it was Korans he was handing out?

That would be quite a useful gift. Toilet paper is usually the first thing to run out in fire houses.

And yet...not a real answer, is it?

 

[R.D.]

Can I assume everyone would be defending this Fire Chief just as vehemently if it was Korans he was handing out?

If he authored it

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Can I assume everyone would be defending this Fire Chief just as vehemently if it was Korans he was handing out?

That would be quite a useful gift. Toilet paper is usually the first thing to run out in fire houses.

And yet...not a real answer, is it?

You're telling me if you really had to shit and you locked yourself in a private restroom, dumped your load with a thunderous splash and concurring sigh of relief and then discovered to your dismay there was no toilet paper, but there was a Koran sitting alone on the vanity counter that you wouldn't.......

But of course you would. Don't be silly.

 

[Agit8r]

LGBT complained about the published book and fought to get him fired. That's how all this started.

It sounds like employees were the ones doing the complaining at the beginning.

The mayor’s office opened an investigation into Cochran’s conduct after employees shared concerns over the book’s contents, city spokeswoman Anne Torres said in November. At the time, Torres said “there are a number of passages in the book that directly conflict with the city’s nondiscrimination policies.”

Atlanta 8217 s fire chief fired following controversy over his religious book - The Washington Post

He violated the employment policy. There doesn't need to be any offended parties.

Quote the regulation he violated.

Have you seen this? Check this out:
Kelvin Cochran Atlanta Fire Chief Terminated Over Published Statements About Gay Lifestyle

In another article linked here, Cochran says he submitted his manuscript as requested.

And he was advised not to publish.

 

[bodecea]

Can I assume everyone would be defending this Fire Chief just as vehemently if it was Korans he was handing out?

That would be quite a useful gift. Toilet paper is usually the first thing to run out in fire houses.

And yet...not a real answer, is it?

You're telling me if you really had to shit and you locked yourself in a private restroom, dumped your load with a thunderous splash and concurring sigh of relief and then discovered to your dismay there was no toilet paper, but there was a Koran sitting alone on the vanity counter that you wouldn't.......

But of course you would. Don't be silly.

Probably any book would not be fair game. Got a Gideon's Bible....fair game.