Assault weapons ban

[jtpr312]

If you compare the murder rate in the US to the rest of the world, we don't fare too bad and that's WITH over 300,000,000 firearms, so 20 times more likely to die from a gunshot wound is a meaningless statistic. According to the FBI you have better chance of dying from a hammer strike than a rifle bullet, so who's bullcrapping who?

It's a very sad day for America when he bast the US can hope for is to be better than Afghanistan and Zimbabwe.

Once again, the US has the worst record on homicide in the developed world. Not only is it the worse, it has a record twice as bad as any other developed country, and 10 times as bad as most developed countries.

The fact that Americans are 20 times more likely to die of gun shot wounds than people in other developed countries is damning and tragic, and something posters here defend not out of logic, but out of blind political faith.

Here's the fact of the matter. We, America, need to put a leash on the third world mentality types in this nation that ARE the cause of us having such high murder rates. If you took the murders commited by hispanics and blacks out of the equation this would be one of the safest nations in the world, so comparing us to other "developed" nations, without taking into account that more than 20% of our popuation are third world thinking minorities who commit well over 50% of the murders in this nation, is unfair and absurd. If you look just to NYC 2010, you wil see 98% of ALL the murders committed in the city where committed by negroes or hispanics. Take them out of the equation and you have one of the safest cities in the world, civilized world or third world. We have a minority problem in this nation, not a crime problem or a gun problem, it's a demogrphics problem. Remove these two groups from the population and viola, our murder rates would drop by well over 50%, making the US much safer than most other "developed" nations. I know many of the guilt filled, head up their asses liberals here will take offense at this, but you can't deny the numbers, they are what they are and the facts/numbers speak for themselves.

 

[Saigon]

If you took the murders commited by hispanics and blacks out of the equation this would be one of the safest nations in the world

Would it really?

How many of the mass shootings that have taken place in the US during the last decade have been committed by blacks or hispanics?

 

[Snookie]

Once again, the US has the worst record on homicide in the developed world.

Yeah and 65% of them involve alcohol. But it's all about hating guns so......

Alcoholics should be denied guns.

 

[midcan5]

It is sorta amazing how the so called constitutional folks find reasons and quotations from over two hundred years ago to justify in their minds activities in the modern world. Shame they don't all have muskets too. But consider why the same ideologues do not argue against woman being able to vote for surely good reasons exist and quotes can be found. Let's not mention slavery either for John C. Calhoun had wonderful lines for the good of slavery. How wonderful it was for the slaves. When you live in the past, the present becomes a bizarre chimera. Is it any wonder the republicans, aka American conservatives, fail so badly when given the reins of power?

If there were a ban on whining, the right wing would be speechless, slippery slopes, oh, slippery slope - oh wait - let's go back to the days of great depression type crashes, pollution, lead paint, witch doctors, and toxic air for if we ban them the slippery slope begins and who knows where that might lead.

 

[The Rabbi]

Once again, the US has the worst record on homicide in the developed world.

Yeah and 65% of them involve alcohol. But it's all about hating guns so......

Alcoholics should be denied guns.

It's already illegal for them to buy them.
Next.

 

[Snookie]

Yeah and 65% of them involve alcohol. But it's all about hating guns so......

Alcoholics should be denied guns.

It's already illegal for them to buy them.
Next.

There ought to be a law where anyone caught with a gun in their possesion while under the influence be treated like drunk driving. IMHO.

 

[Katzndogz]

The only thing bizarre is the liberal belief that criminals will obey a gun control law that they impose when those criminals don't obey any other laws, including firearm laws now.

 

[Snookie]

The only thing bizarre is the liberal belief that criminals will obey a gun control law that they impose when those criminals don't obey any other laws, including firearm laws now.

Well then, we just impose additional prison time on them when they get busted.

 

[martybegan]

If you took the murders commited by hispanics and blacks out of the equation this would be one of the safest nations in the world

Would it really?

How many of the mass shootings that have taken place in the US during the last decade have been committed by blacks or hispanics?

What is your risk of dying in a mass shooting vs. the risk someone in the ghetto faces of getting shot?

Here is a hint, the person in the ghetto is screwed.

 

[The Rabbi]

Alcoholics should be denied guns.

It's already illegal for them to buy them.
Next.

There ought to be a law where anyone caught with a gun in their possesion while under the influence be treated like drunk driving. IMHO.

Actually there already is.

Are there any other inane, stupid ineffective laws you'd like to see passed in the hope of sticking it to gun owners/the NRA/white men or anyone else who is keeping you down?

 

[Snookie]

It's already illegal for them to buy them.
Next.

There ought to be a law where anyone caught with a gun in their possesion while under the influence be treated like drunk driving. IMHO.

Actually there already is.

Are there any other inane, stupid ineffective laws you'd like to see passed in the hope of sticking it to gun owners/the NRA/white men or anyone else who is keeping you down?

Your reasoning is that we should not have laws because criminals will not obey them, LOL.

 

[The Rabbi]

There ought to be a law where anyone caught with a gun in their possesion while under the influence be treated like drunk driving. IMHO.

Actually there already is.

Are there any other inane, stupid ineffective laws you'd like to see passed in the hope of sticking it to gun owners/the NRA/white men or anyone else who is keeping you down?

Your reasoning is that we should not have laws because criminals will not obey them, LOL.

Actually it isn't.
My reasoning is that ineffective laws are ineffective. But it seems every post you want to propose a law to fix this or that. When pointed out that many of those things are already laws, you ignore it.

 

[martybegan]

Actually there already is.

Are there any other inane, stupid ineffective laws you'd like to see passed in the hope of sticking it to gun owners/the NRA/white men or anyone else who is keeping you down?

Your reasoning is that we should not have laws because criminals will not obey them, LOL.

Actually it isn't.
My reasoning is that ineffective laws are ineffective. But it seems every post you want to propose a law to fix this or that. When pointed out that many of those things are already laws, you ignore it.

What we need are less laws that TURN ordinary people into criminals.

 

[Snookie]

Actually there already is.

Are there any other inane, stupid ineffective laws you'd like to see passed in the hope of sticking it to gun owners/the NRA/white men or anyone else who is keeping you down?

Your reasoning is that we should not have laws because criminals will not obey them, LOL.

Actually it isn't.
My reasoning is that ineffective laws are ineffective. But it seems every post you want to propose a law to fix this or that. When pointed out that many of those things are already laws, you ignore it.

Why? Just because you say so? Quote me the laws.

 

[Katzndogz]

The only thing bizarre is the liberal belief that criminals will obey a gun control law that they impose when those criminals don't obey any other laws, including firearm laws now.

Well then, we just impose additional prison time on them when they get busted.

Good. First bust them. Then be sure to bust them before they have committed dozens of crimes not after. Then stop judges from releasing these criminals due to prison overcrowding.

Good luck with that.

 

[Snookie]

The only thing bizarre is the liberal belief that criminals will obey a gun control law that they impose when those criminals don't obey any other laws, including firearm laws now.

Well then, we just impose additional prison time on them when they get busted.

Good. First bust them. Then be sure to bust them before they have committed dozens of crimes not after. Then stop judges from releasing these criminals due to prison overcrowding.

Good luck with that.

It's not my fault that they wont raise taxes to build more prisons, is it?

 

[OODA_Loop]

Your reasoning is that we should not have laws because criminals will not obey them, LOL.

Punish violent criminals = problem solved.

Liberals have defanged the criminal justice system.

 

[Saigon]

Your reasoning is that we should not have laws because criminals will not obey them, LOL.

Punish violent criminals = problem solved.

Liberals have defanged the criminal justice system.

And yet the US has more people in prison per capita than any other country, and is one of only a handful of countries to use the death penality.

What would be your model - Iran? Saudi Arabia?

 

[M14 Shooter]

It is sorta amazing how the so called constitutional folks find reasons and quotations from over two hundred years ago to justify in their minds activities in the modern world. Shame they don't all have muskets too.

With that in mind...
Expalin to us why the 4th amendment should cover your cell phone conversations.

 

[The Rabbi]

If you took the murders commited by hispanics and blacks out of the equation this would be one of the safest nations in the world

Would it really?

How many of the mass shootings that have taken place in the US during the last decade have been committed by blacks or hispanics?

That's irrelevant as mass shootings account for a very small fraction of gun deaths.