Assault rifle used in shooting in Port Arthur Australia...the happened now, not in the 90s....

[Rustic]

Nope......you can't own guns in Australia.........the guns are illegal guns....


.extreme gun control and confiscation...the wet dreams of anti gunners in this country...are failing in Australia.........

Nice of you to admit it though......

Nope. Actually you can own guns in Australia.

Some guns. And it is very difficult. Bolt actions are available to farmers, handguns are extremely difficult to obtain. Unless you're a criminal of course....they get them quite easy.

Apparently not. Thus the low gun crime rate.

And of course....we prove you wrong....more guns in America....owned and carried by normal, law abiding people.......and our gun mirdered rate and our violent crime rate went down.....that is a fact.......the entire founding principal of the anti gun movement is proven to be wrong.....and a lie.....

In Australia the number of guns and gun crime are going up. Please explain.

Probably has something to do with the fact that making guns illegal for the regular civilians doesn't reduce crime. But that's merely a guess.

Except in countries where it has. Just a guess.

What countries are those? The facts are the countries that enjoy low gun crime rates have cultures that are non violent for the most part. They are 99% white in population. Our crime rate is so high because of black and Hispanic gang bangers who commit over 80% of the violent crime in this country. No other First World country in the world has that problem

Countries with the capability to control guns have the lowest gun crime rates.

Look at Russia. Barely any of your evil blacks and browns there, and triple the U.S.'s gun crime rate. Because the government can't enforce anyhing. They had to freaking pay off the Mafia to keep the peace at the Olympics.

More guns = less crime

 

[2aguy]

Nope...nice try though...the peopl doing the shooting are not la abiding Australians....these are criminals shooting at people...and Muslim terrorists...who got their guns illegally...remember....guns were confiscated and there is extreme gun control in place.......but criminals don't obey gun control


Nice try....you realize that as gun violence increases.....you have to find a way to protect the concept of gun confiscation and extreme gun control laws....

See....Australia has everything you anti-gun nuts want here.....confiscation and punitive, extreme gun control against normal people.....and it isn't working........

Gun crime in Britain went up 4%...and thy are now arming more police..you know...the famous unarmed Bobbies....are now packing heat.....

Australia...is now using terms like. "Increasing gun violence"....and thy don't get to do that...they confiscated their guns and because of that...gun crime doesn't go up...according to your failed belief system.

Nope nice try though. More guns = more guns for criminals to get their hands on.

And of course....we prove you wrong....more guns in America....owned and carried by normal, law abiding people.......and our gun mirdered rate and our violent crime rate went down.....that is a fact.......the entire founding principal of the anti gun movement is proven to be wrong.....and a lie.....

In Australia the number of guns and gun crime are going up. Please explain.

THat is easy.....the criminals in Australia are importing more guns...to use for drug gangs....

You do realize that they confiscated their guns...right? And for the remaining guns they have the most extreme gun control laws...all the laws you want...plus ones you haven't thought of....so normal, law abiding Australians aren't getting these guns....and they aren't using them for crime.....since the guns are illegal to own.....

You guys always want us to think that simply having a guy turns a normal, law abiding person into a violent criminal and killer.....no research supports this.....

People who shoot other people have long criminal Felony records........

They BOUGHT BACK (not confiscated) their guns a long time ago. Now gun ownership is higher than ever. And of course, (I mean DUH!), more guns = more gun crime.

Wrong...thy confiscated guns..you had to turn in your gun. And they simply gave you money...but you had no choice......

And again...you are lying....more guns in America have meant less crime....aa d less fun murder...that is a fact........

The guns used in Australia are illegal...they have extreme gun control and normal, law abiding citizens cannot own guns legally...........except in rare, tightly controlled cases.......and it is failing...

And the people doing the shooting in Australia.....are criminals, using illegal guns....

An island nation...which did everything you anti-gunners want..they confiscated the guns of people who did not use them for crime.....they implemented extreme gun control......las you guys wish we had here....

And it is failing.......criminals and terrorists in Australia are getting guns...easily......gun control in Australia only works for normal, law abiding people.....

And not for criminals...

 

[2aguy]

Has anyone else noticed the C_Clayton_Jones can never argue or debate a point or offer any kind of rebuttal with an intelligent reply? It's always a purse-swinging post to show his displeasure that you are not a "leftard" like him. I would put his I.Q at about 85 or so.

Yeah...he is a lazy gun grabber....

 

[2aguy]

Nope......you can't own guns in Australia.........the guns are illegal guns....


.extreme gun control and confiscation...the wet dreams of anti gunners in this country...are failing in Australia.........

Nice of you to admit it though......

Nope. Actually you can own guns in Australia.

Some guns. And it is very difficult. Bolt actions are available to farmers, handguns are extremely difficult to obtain. Unless you're a criminal of course....they get them quite easy.

Apparently not. Thus the low gun crime rate.

And of course....we prove you wrong....more guns in America....owned and carried by normal, law abiding people.......and our gun mirdered rate and our violent crime rate went down.....that is a fact.......the entire founding principal of the anti gun movement is proven to be wrong.....and a lie.....

In Australia the number of guns and gun crime are going up. Please explain.

Probably has something to do with the fact that making guns illegal for the regular civilians doesn't reduce crime. But that's merely a guess.

Except in countries where it has. Just a guess.

What countries are those? The facts are the countries that enjoy low gun crime rates have cultures that are non violent for the most part. They are 99% white in population. Our crime rate is so high because of black and Hispanic gang bangers who commit over 80% of the violent crime in this country. No other First World country in the world has that problem

Countries with the capability to control guns have the lowest gun crime rates.

Look at Russia. Barely any of your evil blacks and browns there, and triple the U.S.'s gun crime rate. Because the government can't enforce anyhing. They had to freaking pay off the Mafia to keep the peace at the Olympics.

Wrong....they have extreme gun control inRussia......and if you are caught they actually punish you...and their gun crime is higher than ours....

 

[Dale Smith]

Yep.....apparently, they have a little problem with guns in the land where they confiscated guns.

I bring these stories up because the dipstick, anti gunner here in the U.S. portray Australia as a gun control paradise.....they fail to mention that they actually do have gun crime in Australia...and it is going up.....

Man found shot in Port Arthur

Port Arthur Police are investigating a shooting at Dewalt and W. 14th Street. Police got the call at about 10:45 p.m. Thursday. When they arrived on the scene they found a 29-year-old man laying outside a car that was riddled with bullets. The man had a gunshot wound to the leg and was taken to Christus Southeast Texas St. Elizabeth in Beaumont. His injuries are not life-threatening.

Police say they believe the gun used was some sort of an assault rifle. There is no word on any suspects at this time.

Okay.....soooo....please explain how any of the gun confiscation in Australia...or any of their extreme gun control laws kept this shooter from entering a movie theater or their equivalent of an elementary school...and shooting a whole bunch of people...

After all...we were told they can't have mass shootings...though of course they have had several since they confiscated their guns.....

The first step of asserting a bad government is confiscating the weapons that could prevent it.

A government "buy back" is just confiscation "light". If you are ignorant to sell your only defense from a home invasion for a few dollars then you deserve your fate when it happens to you and your family.

What the idiot OP fails to realize is that no one in the United States is advocating for ‘gun confiscation,’ hence the thread failing as a fallacy.

Moreover, ‘gun confiscation’ is legally and Constitutionally impossible in the United States – a fact of law the idiot OP is likewise ignorant of.

But he’ll continue with his moronic demagoguery nonetheless.

Do tell? Because Hitlery has even commented that America needs gun acts like Australia's draconian rules after their Aussie "Sandy Hook" false flag event. The feeb that allegedly shot 18 out of 20 people in the head (with unbelievable precision) at the cafe had a lower I.Q than you and that alone should give anyone pause for thought.

 

[2aguy]

Nope......you can't own guns in Australia.........the guns are illegal guns....


.extreme gun control and confiscation...the wet dreams of anti gunners in this country...are failing in Australia.........

Nice of you to admit it though......

Nope. Actually you can own guns in Australia.

Some guns. And it is very difficult. Bolt actions are available to farmers, handguns are extremely difficult to obtain. Unless you're a criminal of course....they get them quite easy.

Apparently not. Thus the low gun crime rate.

And of course....we prove you wrong....more guns in America....owned and carried by normal, law abiding people.......and our gun mirdered rate and our violent crime rate went down.....that is a fact.......the entire founding principal of the anti gun movement is proven to be wrong.....and a lie.....

In Australia the number of guns and gun crime are going up. Please explain.

Probably has something to do with the fact that making guns illegal for the regular civilians doesn't reduce crime. But that's merely a guess.

Except in countries where it has. Just a guess.

What countries are those? The facts are the countries that enjoy low gun crime rates have cultures that are non violent for the most part. They are 99% white in population. Our crime rate is so high because of black and Hispanic gang bangers who commit over 80% of the violent crime in this country. No other First World country in the world has that problem

Countries with the capability to control guns have the lowest gun crime rates.

Look at Russia. Barely any of your evil blacks and browns there, and triple the U.S.'s gun crime rate. Because the government can't enforce anyhing. They had to freaking pay off the Mafia to keep the peace at the Olympics.

Yes...normal Russians can't get guns...Russian criminals get guns....

That is what we have been saying all these years.......

 

[Dale Smith]

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Check it out...I went to Yahoo and this was playing on my feed. I played some gigs with Dale Watson when his regular bass player was sick and then I played in a band that opened for him...pretty bad ass pickin' here. He is playing the same guitar that is in my profile pic....8 years later. LOL!

 

[ClosedCaption]

OP has a good point. Except no one ever EVER claimed Australia didn't have gun crime. But other than that your punctuation is correct.

 

[Dale Smith]

OP has a good point. Except no one ever EVER claimed Australia didn't have gun crime. But other than that your punctuation is correct.

So are you of the opinion that only the DHS and police departments should have access to semi-automatic weapons?
Are you really THAT secure living under the thumb of corporate de facto "gubermint" that spies on all of us in the name of (snicker) "national security" while leaving the border unsecured as they bring in thousands of muslim refugees a month without a vetting process? Because if you are...you are a blithering idiot.

 

[ClosedCaption]

OP has a good point. Except no one ever EVER claimed Australia didn't have gun crime. But other than that your punctuation is correct.

So are you of the opinion that only the DHS and police departments should have access to semi-automatic weapons?
Are you really THAT secure living under the thumb of ....

No, the answer is no. And no one believes that either. You're fighting the opinions of ghosts and / or stupid people you deem relevant.

 

[Dale Smith]

OP has a good point. Except no one ever EVER claimed Australia didn't have gun crime. But other than that your punctuation is correct.

So are you of the opinion that only the DHS and police departments should have access to semi-automatic weapons?
Are you really THAT secure living under the thumb of ....

No, the answer is no. And no one believes that either. You're fighting the opinions of ghosts and / or stupid people you deem relevant.

No, liberals and leftards do not believe that the average citizen should be able to have anything more than a pea-shooter and frankly, they don't want them to have even that much and for you to say otherwise makes you appear to be very ignorant.

 

[ClosedCaption]

OP has a good point. Except no one ever EVER claimed Australia didn't have gun crime. But other than that your punctuation is correct.

So are you of the opinion that only the DHS and police departments should have access to semi-automatic weapons?
Are you really THAT secure living under the thumb of ....

No, the answer is no. And no one believes that either. You're fighting the opinions of ghosts and / or stupid people you deem relevant.

No, liberals and leftards do not believe that the average citizen should be able to have anything more than a pea-shooter and frankly, they don't want them to have even that much and for you to say otherwise makes you appear to be very ignorant.

Well if that was true I would've said the opposite, now wouldn't I?

Also again, no one believes that, you're fighting ghosts and or stupid people that you qualify as relevant. Since you haven't quoted anyone saying that I can only assume you don't have anyone to present saying such.

 

[Dale Smith]

OP has a good point. Except no one ever EVER claimed Australia didn't have gun crime. But other than that your punctuation is correct.

So are you of the opinion that only the DHS and police departments should have access to semi-automatic weapons?
Are you really THAT secure living under the thumb of ....

No, the answer is no. And no one believes that either. You're fighting the opinions of ghosts and / or stupid people you deem relevant.

No, liberals and leftards do not believe that the average citizen should be able to have anything more than a pea-shooter and frankly, they don't want them to have even that much and for you to say otherwise makes you appear to be very ignorant.

Well if that was true I would've said the opposite, now wouldn't I?

Also again, no one believes that, you're fighting ghosts and or stupid people that you qualify as relevant. Since you haven't quoted anyone saying that I can only assume you don't have anyone to present saying such.

Really? I can find you MANY quotes from leftard politicians, leftard pundits and leftard celebrities that espouse total gun confiscation...are you willing to go on record and say that they don't exist???

 

[2aguy]

OP has a good point. Except no one ever EVER claimed Australia didn't have gun crime. But other than that your punctuation is correct.

They imply that the confiscation means there is no gun crime in Australia.....they imply it whenever they say America needs Australian gun control......they don't say....oh, Australian gun laws don't stop all gun crime....they say we need their gun control with the great big idea that it solved their gun violence problem...and that their gun control actually works...which is obviously not true in either case....

Australia had a low gun crime and gun murder rate before they confiscated their guns.....their gun laws did nothing to stop it either. It hasn't stopped gun crime.....and it didn't stop mass shootings...as I have shown by all the criminals with guns who could very easily become mass shooters....since they have guns and can just drive to the local school, mall, church or theater and shoot people....

Gun control didn't change anything in Australia except to disarm people who did not use guns to commit crimes...the criminals, terrorists and mass shooters are still getting the guns they want. Their criminals, mass shooters and terrorists just haven't murdered as many people with their gun.

....the two muslim terrorists last year...could easily have murdered more people....what stopped them? Tell me...which part of Australia's gun confiscation and extreme gun control laws stopped the two muslim terrorists in Australia last year from committing a mass shooting?

Can you please answer that?

Which part of the confiscation and extreme gun control kept the various shooters, shooting each other over crime, from going into a school, or a mall, or a theater?

The only thing that has kept Australia from having more mass shootings...is their people haven't decided to do it.....pure, dumb, luck.

 

[airplanemechanic]

It's a fact developed nations which have strict gun control have lower homicide rates. Now...you can deny this reality, or you can look like a jackass.

It's also a fact that nations that do not have cars have lower rates of vehicular deaths than developed nations. What is your point?

Guns do not cause crimes any more than spoons caused Rosey O' Donuts to get fat.

 

[there4eyeM]

What is the term for people who are not afraid to own firearms nor of their reasonable use, but also don't like the high rate of misuse and 'accidents' (read, irresponsibility without proper punishment)?