Ask Chomsky:

[editec]

Noam for president!

While I appreciate your support for the man's intellect and his ability to analyse complex situations like geopolitics, I don't think he'd be a very good POTUS.

He's too cool and detached for that post.

A POTUS needs to inspire the masses and Chomsky only inspires people like me, and I guess, like you, too.

The man would best serve this nation in a POTUS's kitchen cabinet.

Give him no portfolio. That way his ego ---assuming he has one. I'm not sure he really does --won't get in the way of his analysis.

It's much easier, I think, for us to see clearly and speak truth when we aren't the people who have to implement proposed policies resulting from what we see.

The reason for that is, again I think, because when one is detached from the responsibility of one's proposals, one isn't second guessing oneself, and also one isn't weighing in the sometimes terrible costs that every decision naturally has when one is deciding the fate of nations and people.

The guy has called the ME situation better than almost anyone else.
Also on the corporatization of journalism he is on top of it.

He's a smart cookies without doubt.

Possible the smartest person I ever personally met.

 

[georgephillip]

I think if Noam started spending winters in Pasadena like Einstein did in the 30s and if he started speaking for free at various venues around LA, he would become at least as well-known as Glen Beck or Sarah Palin.

His ability to see himself through the eyes of his audience may be his greatest strength. He certainly displays no tendency for arrogance which, if true, makes him one-of-a-kind at his level of intellect.

I also agree Chomsky is a thinker who shouldn't have to deal with party politics or bureaucratic details. With a POTUS like Ralph Nader or Ron Paul, Chomsky could bring peace to Palestine in spite of AIPAC's and Osama's best efforts.

Finally, I don't think we've seen a public intellectual like Chomsky since Einstein died. I only wish more Americans had an opportunity to listen to him.

From Divided Legacy 1995:

"The man once called the most important intellectual alive keeps his office in a ramshackle barrack of a building, across from some railroad tracks, deep in the industrial interior of the campus of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Known simply as Building 20, the structure was built in 1943 as a radar and electronics lab. Drab and ill-ventilated, with sagging walls and floors, it's been slated for demolition for years. Yet still it stands, an icon of another age. This is where to find Noam Chomsky.

Walk down a creaky hallway, turn left, and he is there, the slight, salt-and-pepper-haired, 67-year-old man who revolutionized the study of language. The man who, in the process, transformed our understanding of behavior, thinking, and the mind. The man who is compared to Sigmund Freud and Albert Einstein."

 

[Liability]

I think if Noam started spending winters in Pasadena like Einstein did in the 30s and if he started speaking for free at various venues around LA, he would become at least as well-known as Glen Beck or Sarah Palin.

His ability to see himself through the eyes of his audience may be his greatest strength. He certainly displays no tendency for arrogance which, if true, makes him one-of-a-kind at his level of intellect.

I also agree Chomsky is a thinker who shouldn't have to deal with party politics or bureaucratic details. With a POTUS like Ralph Nader or Ron Paul, Chomsky could bring peace to Palestine in spite of AIPAC's and Osama's best efforts.

Finally, I don't think we've seen a public intellectual like Chomsky since Einstein died. I only wish more Americans had an opportunity to listen to him.

From Divided Legacy 1995:

"The man once called the most important intellectual alive keeps his office in a ramshackle barrack of a building, across from some railroad tracks, deep in the industrial interior of the campus of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Known simply as Building 20, the structure was built in 1943 as a radar and electronics lab. Drab and ill-ventilated, with sagging walls and floors, it's been slated for demolition for years. Yet still it stands, an icon of another age. This is where to find Noam Chomsky.

Walk down a creaky hallway, turn left, and he is there, the slight, salt-and-pepper-haired, 67-year-old man who revolutionized the study of language. The man who, in the process, transformed our understanding of behavior, thinking, and the mind. The man who is compared to Sigmund Freud and Albert Einstein."

As a political thinker, he's inches ahead of other linguists.

No.

Not really.

Chomsky is a joke.

Only fucking retard delusional scumbag fellow haters of America and all things American could possibly tolerate that old pissant douche rag.

Liberals will be clamoring to have a Federal Building named after him. He must be one of the darlings of the Hollywood "intelligentsia" set.

 

[georgephillip]

Why doesn't the corporate press in the US mention the separation of Gaza from the West Bank the way journalist Amira Hass does repeatedly in Israel?

"(T)he restrictions on Palestinian movement that Israel introduced in January 1991 reversed a process that had been initiated in June 1967. Back then, and for the first time since 1948, a large portion of the Palestinian people again lived in the open territory of a single country -- to be sure, one that was occupied, but was nevertheless whole.... The total separation of the Gaza Strip from the West Bank is one of the greatest achievements of Israeli politics, whose overarching objective is to prevent a solution based on international decisions and understandings and instead dictate an arrangement based on Israel's military superiority....

"Since January 1991, Israel has bureaucratically and logistically merely perfected the split and the separation: not only between Palestinians in the occupied territories and their brothers in Israel, but also between the Palestinian residents of Jerusalem and those in the rest of the territories and between Gazans and West Bankers/Jerusalemites. Jews live in this same piece of land within a superior and separate system of privileges, laws, services, physical infrastructure and freedom of movement."

Think this might be related to Isreal and the US working in tandem to crush any Palestinian hope for national survival and economic self-sufficiency by stealing Gaza's offshore natural gas deposits, for example?

Since 2000 Israel's gunboats have routinely fired on Gazan fishermen resulting in many casualties and driving the fishing boats close to shore where fishing is suicide due to Israel regular destruction of power plants and sewage treatment facilities.

"These Israeli naval attacks began shortly after the discovery by the BG (British Gas) Group of what appear to be quite sizeable natural gas fields in Gaza's territorial waters. Industry journals report that Israel is already appropriating these Gazan resources for its own use, part of its commitment to shift its economy to natural gas. The standard industry source reports:

"Israel's finance ministry has given the Israel Electric Corp. (IEC) approval to purchase larger quantities of natural gas from BG than originally agreed upon, according to Israeli government sources [which] said the state-owned utility would be able to negotiate for as much as 1.5 billion cubic meters of natural gas from the Marine field located off the Mediterranean coast of the Palestinian controlled Gaza Strip.

"Last year the Israeli government approved the purchase of 800 million cubic meters of gas from the field by the IEC.... Recently the Israeli government changed its policy and decided the state-owned utility could buy the entire quantity of gas from the Gaza Marine field. Previously the government had said the IEC could buy half the total amount and the remainder would be bought by private power producers."

"The pillage of what could become a major source of income for Gaza is surely known to U.S. authorities. It is only reasonable to suppose that the intention to appropriate these limited resources, either by Israel alone or together with the collaborationist Palestinian Authority, is the motive for preventing Gazan fishing boats from entering Gaza's territorial waters."

 

[GHook93]

Chomsky and Carter are as retarded as you are!

Hamas leader rejects compromise, peace with Israel
rejected compromise with Israel in a fiery speech Wednesday, a day after gunmen killed four Israelis.

In an address to Hamas members, Gaza strongman Mahmoud Zahar said the movement would resist peace efforts and criticized the Palestinian president for joining

Yes Chomsky is right Hamas is a regular hippie organization that wants peace!

 

[GHook93]

Why doesn't the corporate press in the US mention the separation of Gaza from the West Bank the way journalist Amira Hass does repeatedly in Israel?

"(T)he restrictions on Palestinian movement that Israel introduced in January 1991 reversed a process that had been initiated in June 1967. Back then, and for the first time since 1948, a large portion of the Palestinian people again lived in the open territory of a single country -- to be sure, one that was occupied, but was nevertheless whole.... The total separation of the Gaza Strip from the West Bank is one of the greatest achievements of Israeli politics, whose overarching objective is to prevent a solution based on international decisions and understandings and instead dictate an arrangement based on Israel's military superiority....

"Since January 1991, Israel has bureaucratically and logistically merely perfected the split and the separation: not only between Palestinians in the occupied territories and their brothers in Israel, but also between the Palestinian residents of Jerusalem and those in the rest of the territories and between Gazans and West Bankers/Jerusalemites. Jews live in this same piece of land within a superior and separate system of privileges, laws, services, physical infrastructure and freedom of movement."

Think this might be related to Isreal and the US working in tandem to crush any Palestinian hope for national survival and economic self-sufficiency by stealing Gaza's offshore natural gas deposits, for example?

Since 2000 Israel's gunboats have routinely fired on Gazan fishermen resulting in many casualties and driving the fishing boats close to shore where fishing is suicide due to Israel regular destruction of power plants and sewage treatment facilities.

"These Israeli naval attacks began shortly after the discovery by the BG (British Gas) Group of what appear to be quite sizeable natural gas fields in Gaza's territorial waters. Industry journals report that Israel is already appropriating these Gazan resources for its own use, part of its commitment to shift its economy to natural gas. The standard industry source reports:

"Israel's finance ministry has given the Israel Electric Corp. (IEC) approval to purchase larger quantities of natural gas from BG than originally agreed upon, according to Israeli government sources [which] said the state-owned utility would be able to negotiate for as much as 1.5 billion cubic meters of natural gas from the Marine field located off the Mediterranean coast of the Palestinian controlled Gaza Strip.

"Last year the Israeli government approved the purchase of 800 million cubic meters of gas from the field by the IEC.... Recently the Israeli government changed its policy and decided the state-owned utility could buy the entire quantity of gas from the Gaza Marine field. Previously the government had said the IEC could buy half the total amount and the remainder would be bought by private power producers."

"The pillage of what could become a major source of income for Gaza is surely known to U.S. authorities. It is only reasonable to suppose that the intention to appropriate these limited resources, either by Israel alone or together with the collaborationist Palestinian Authority, is the motive for preventing Gazan fishing boats from entering Gaza's territorial waters."

This is all revisionist history not even worthy of taking the time to counter! Chomsky still thinks the USSR was a smashing success and it was the unnatural forces of US and the JOOSSSS that took the "best country in the world" down!

 

[daveman]

I've got a question for Chomsky:

Why do morons kiss your ass?

 

[georgephillip]

Chomsky and Carter are as retarded as you are!

Hamas leader rejects compromise, peace with Israel
rejected compromise with Israel in a fiery speech Wednesday, a day after gunmen killed four Israelis.

In an address to Hamas members, Gaza strongman Mahmoud Zahar said the movement would resist peace efforts and criticized the Palestinian president for joining

Yes Chomsky is right Hamas is a regular hippie organization that wants peace!

The latest bait and switch Middle East "Peace Proposal" offered by Obama appears based on the most recent Israeli vision of the one-state solution.

"The Israeli vision, however, does not include a state with equal rights for Jewish and Palestinians citizens. The call for a single state appears to include pushing Gaza into the unwilling arms of Egypt and incorporating the West Bank and East Jerusalem into Israel. Palestinians within Israeli-controlled territory, however, will remain burdened with crippling travel, work and security restrictions already in place.

"Palestinians in the occupied territories, for example, cannot reclaim lost property or acquire Israeli citizenship, yet watch as Jews born outside of Israel and with no prior tie to the country become Israeli citizens and receive government-subsidized housing.

"Palestinians in the West Bank live in a series of roughly eight squalid, ringed ghettos and are governed by military courts. Jews living in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, like all full Israeli citizens, are subject to Israeli civilian law and constitutional protection. Palestinians cannot serve in the armed forces or the security services, while Jewish settlers are issued automatic weapons and protected by the Israel Defense Force."

Formalizing Israel's Land Grab

There's also this flagrant bit of propaganda in your link:

"Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas has been locked in a fierce rivalry with Hamas since the group seized Gaza from his forces in a violent takeover in 2007, leaving him only in control of the West Bank."

Hamas won power in Gaza in 2006 at the polls. The US and Israel immediately launched a coup attempt that Hamas defeated in the streets.

You need to open your eyes to the ways the rich manipulate your perception of the US's and Israel's war crimes from Fallujah to Gaza (to Mexico?)

 

[georgephillip]

I've got a question for Chomsky:

Why do morons kiss your ass?

Daveman:

Why do conservatives kiss Dick Cheney's... ?

Chomsky's intellectual legacy is on the same level as Einstein's and Freud's. Only blind squirrels and broken clocks would fail to notice.

Dick'$ legacy is.... what -- exactly?

 

[daveman]

I've got a question for Chomsky:

Why do morons kiss your ass?

Daveman:

Why do conservatives kiss Dick Cheney's... ?

Chomsky's intellectual legacy is on the same level as Einstein's and Freud's. Only blind squirrels and broken clocks would fail to notice.

Speaking of ass-kissing morons...

Dick'$ legacy is.... what -- exactly?

Y'know, I see far more lefties quoting Cheney than I do righties. So you're kissing his ass, too, apparently.

 

[georgephillip]

Why doesn't the corporate press in the US mention the separation of Gaza from the West Bank the way journalist Amira Hass does repeatedly in Israel?

"(T)he restrictions on Palestinian movement that Israel introduced in January 1991 reversed a process that had been initiated in June 1967. Back then, and for the first time since 1948, a large portion of the Palestinian people again lived in the open territory of a single country -- to be sure, one that was occupied, but was nevertheless whole.... The total separation of the Gaza Strip from the West Bank is one of the greatest achievements of Israeli politics, whose overarching objective is to prevent a solution based on international decisions and understandings and instead dictate an arrangement based on Israel's military superiority....

"Since January 1991, Israel has bureaucratically and logistically merely perfected the split and the separation: not only between Palestinians in the occupied territories and their brothers in Israel, but also between the Palestinian residents of Jerusalem and those in the rest of the territories and between Gazans and West Bankers/Jerusalemites. Jews live in this same piece of land within a superior and separate system of privileges, laws, services, physical infrastructure and freedom of movement."

Think this might be related to Isreal and the US working in tandem to crush any Palestinian hope for national survival and economic self-sufficiency by stealing Gaza's offshore natural gas deposits, for example?

Since 2000 Israel's gunboats have routinely fired on Gazan fishermen resulting in many casualties and driving the fishing boats close to shore where fishing is suicide due to Israel regular destruction of power plants and sewage treatment facilities.

"These Israeli naval attacks began shortly after the discovery by the BG (British Gas) Group of what appear to be quite sizeable natural gas fields in Gaza's territorial waters. Industry journals report that Israel is already appropriating these Gazan resources for its own use, part of its commitment to shift its economy to natural gas. The standard industry source reports:

"Israel's finance ministry has given the Israel Electric Corp. (IEC) approval to purchase larger quantities of natural gas from BG than originally agreed upon, according to Israeli government sources [which] said the state-owned utility would be able to negotiate for as much as 1.5 billion cubic meters of natural gas from the Marine field located off the Mediterranean coast of the Palestinian controlled Gaza Strip.

"Last year the Israeli government approved the purchase of 800 million cubic meters of gas from the field by the IEC.... Recently the Israeli government changed its policy and decided the state-owned utility could buy the entire quantity of gas from the Gaza Marine field. Previously the government had said the IEC could buy half the total amount and the remainder would be bought by private power producers."

"The pillage of what could become a major source of income for Gaza is surely known to U.S. authorities. It is only reasonable to suppose that the intention to appropriate these limited resources, either by Israel alone or together with the collaborationist Palestinian Authority, is the motive for preventing Gazan fishing boats from entering Gaza's territorial waters."

This is all revisionist history not even worthy of taking the time to counter! Chomsky still thinks the USSR was a smashing success and it was the unnatural forces of US and the JOOSSSS that took the "best country in the world" down!

"In May 1983, a remarkable event took place in Moscow. A courageous newscaster, Vladimir Danchev, denounced the Russian invasion of Afghanistan in five successive radio broadcasts extending over five days, calling upon the rebels to resist. This aroused great admiration in the West. The New York Times (8/6/83) commented accurately that this was a departure from the official Soviet propaganda line, that Danchev had 'revolted against the standards of doublethink and newspeak.'

"Danchev was taken off the air and sent to a psychiatric hospital. When he was returned to his position several months later, a Russian official was quoted as saying that 'he was not punished, because a sick man cannot be punished.'"

Chomsky's contempt for illegal invasions extends from Afghanistan to Vietnam where in 1962 JFK turned the USAF loose on rural South Vietnam where 8 in 10 Vietnamese lived.

"This was part of a program intended to drive several million people into concentration camps (called 'strategic hamlets') where they would be surrounded by barbed wire and armed guards.

"This would 'protect' these people from the guerrillas whom, we conceded,they were largely supporting."

This was followed in 1965 by a land assault accompanied by a tripling of the level of USAF bombs for "peace."

Chomsky notes:

"Throughout the war, the US openly recognized that a political settlement was impossible, for the simple reason that the 'enemy' would win handily in a political competition -- which the US therefore deemed unacceptable."

Chomsky consistently applies the same moral standards to his country as he does the rest of the world.

Do you?

Invasion Newspeak: US & USSR

 

[georgephillip]

I've got a question for Chomsky:

Why do morons kiss your ass?

Daveman:

Why do conservatives kiss Dick Cheney's... ?

Chomsky's intellectual legacy is on the same level as Einstein's and Freud's. Only blind squirrels and broken clocks would fail to notice.

Speaking of ass-kissing morons...

Dick'$ legacy is.... what -- exactly?

Y'know, I see far more lefties quoting Cheney than I do righties. So you're kissing his ass, too, apparently.

On FIVE separate occasions during the US invasion of South Vietnam, Dick's country asked for his participation in the war effort.

EVERY SINGLE TIME Dick said "no."

How can any conservative who is NOT a hypocrite avoid calling Dick Cheney a coward?

 

[editec]

I can see that some of us, likely motivated by our affection for Isreal, feel the need to character assassinate Chomsky by ascribing to him positions he does not take.

Typical of what I'd expect from some of us, I suppose.

Yes, Chomsky is not well liked because of his analysis of the Mid East, no doubt.

He therefore is avoided by the liberals and loathed by the conservatives in this nation, too.

Here's a heads up...he doesn't care.

He has no political ambitions and is therefore free to call 'em as he sees 'em.

FWIW, and contrary to what at least one poster here has implied, Chomsky's view of the Soviet Union was that it was an ill conceived disaster run by tyrants.

I just felt the need to correct the record here on that point..

 

[georgephillip]

Chomsky's position on Israel earns him few friends on the left or right in this country. A long time supporter of the pre-State Zionist movement, Noam lived for a brief time in a kibbutz "...and, in fact, thought seriously about staying there," yet never supported the establishment of a Jewish state.

"On the matter of legitimacy and recognition, once the State of Israel was established in 1948, my feeling has been that it should have the rights of any state in the international system: no more, no less. That includes, specifically, the right to live in peace and security within its recognized international borders, understood to be the pre-June 1967 borders, with minor and mutual adjustments. These rights have been recognized by a very broad international consensus since the mid-1970s, including the major Arab states.

"The US and Israel, virtually alone, have opposed the international consensus since the mid-1970s, and still do. Since the mid-1970s, the US has vetoed Security Council resolutions calling for a two-state settlement on the international border with full recognition of the rights of Israel and a new Palestinian state, has regularly voted against General Assembly resolutions to this effect (along with Israel, sometimes one or another dependency), and blocked other diplomatic efforts seeking to achieve this goal."

I agree Noam has consistently criticized the USSR's state sponsored terror while holding his own country (and Israel) to the same standards he expects of Moscow. Which probably explains why Chomsky will never have the name recognition as Palin or Obama.

On Israel, the US and Turkey