Are you born gay?

[The ClayTaurus]

1. The very perfection of something can make it more delicate.

Please explain.

2. I give my children as much freedom as they can responsibly handle. If they go over the line I kick their their little asses. I belive God does the same, only with a much longer leash, and more dreadful consequences.

You give them as much responsibility that YOU think they can handle. Hopefully you're a good judge of that.

At what point does a child no longer need a leash, though? Our difference in opinion probably lies in your belief that, as a species, we are, spiritually, children for eternity. At some point, the leash comes off, we turn 18, and get kicked out the house, and we learn life's lessons the hard way.

And are we using the parent-child God-humanity comparison or not?

 

[Bullypulpit]

Nobody cares about another person gender preference. Gays shouldn't be harrassed, but they also shouldn't be advocating the celebration of their abnormal behaviors either.

Private sexual habits should remain just that, private. That goes for gays, hetrosexuals into S&M as long as it's consenual.

The rest of us really don't want to hear about it. I don't, anyway. I sure as hell don't want my kid reading about it in the first grade.

What proof can you supply showing homosexuality to be an "abnormal" behavior? The APA removed homoseuality from the DSMV back in the early 70's.

 

[manu1959]

I hear ya---I even pretended to be hetero so I could marry a woman and have a child. I feel so dirty.

i know!.....it, it ,it is.....sooooooooo.......difficult.....i mean no one would choose to be like this

 

[Joz]

It's the topic of this thread but it's not an issue for me because I don't give a shit if they're born that way or not.

:teeth:

 

[manu1959]

What proof can you supply showing homosexuality to be an "abnormal" behavior? The APA removed homoseuality from the DSMV back in the early 70's.

so it is normal for a man to wake up one day and say.....

"ya know i like takin it in the ass and i prefer balls on my chin rather than tits in my face"

sounds normal to me....i mean what else could mother nature have had in mind....

 

[glockmail]

[1]Please explain.

[2]....And are we using the parent-child God-humanity comparison or not?

1. Perhaps you explain to me why something should be unable to be destroyed simply because it was made perfect, or an example.

2. You've lost me once more.

 

[glockmail]

What proof can you supply showing homosexuality to be an "abnormal" behavior? The APA removed homoseuality from the DSMV back in the early 70's.

Any behaivior practiced by 1 to 1.5% of the population is considered abnormal. It's simple statistics. The real issue here is why the APA removed it from a disease list, allowing it to fester uncured.

 

[Dr Grump]

Any behaivior practiced by 1 to 1.5% of the population is considered abnormal. It's simple statistics. The real issue here is why the APA removed it from a disease list, allowing it to fester uncured.

Because it doesn't even pass the giggle test as being a disease. Only in the eyes of bigots and homophobes.

 

[jillian]

Any behaivior practiced by 1 to 1.5% of the population is considered abnormal. It's simple statistics. The real issue here is why the APA removed it from a disease list, allowing it to fester uncured.

What right-wing, Christian, homophobe site did you get that statistic from? It's also been estimated at approximately 10% (which might, or might not be on the high side) which is in line with the appearance of certain recessive traits in the general population.

But if you're still getting your info from the 700 club, I can understand why you'd be so off base.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

1. Perhaps you explain to me why something should be unable to be destroyed simply because it was made perfect, or an example.

No. I asked you. Turning around and asking me the opposite is not a valid answer.

2. You've lost me once more.

Don't know what to tell you here.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

Any behaivior practiced by 1 to 1.5% of the population is considered abnormal. It's simple statistics. The real issue here is why the APA removed it from a disease list, allowing it to fester uncured.

Plenty of things are abnormal. Abnormal does not equate to bad.

Brain surgeons are abnormal.
Valedictorians are abnormal.
Male flute players are abnormal.
70 year old marathon runners are abnormal.

 

[glockmail]

Because it doesn't even pass the giggle test as being a disease. Only in the eyes of bigots and homophobes.

It does not surprise me that you would resort to name calling. Disapointed, yes.

 

[Mr. P]

Lets get some statistics here, how many people are reported per year that die from being gay?

Be careful this is a very loaded question.

 

[5stringJeff]

Lets get some statistics here, how many people are reported per year that die from being gay?

Be careful this is a very loaded question.

From being gay itself? None.

From the effects of homosexual behavior, to include STDs (like AIDS) caught while participating in homosexual behavior? Dunno, but probably thousands annually in the US.

 

[glockmail]

What right-wing, Christian, homophobe site did you get that statistic from. It's also been estimated at approximately 10% (which might, or might not be on the high side) which is in line with the appearance of certain recessive traits in the general population.

But if you're still getting your info from the 700 club, I can understand why you'd be so off base.

Eight major studies have been performed to determine the actual percentage of homosexuals in the general population. The average percentage of homosexuality among both genders would be about 0.7 percent.

http://www.prolife.org.ph/page/homosexuality1

Oops- it looks like I was was off, as the actual percentage is even lower. Are you going to call me a liar now?

You are referring to a non scientific report from the 1940's when you refer to 10%. Weren't you the one who stated that you prefer science to opinion, or something like that?

And like my comment to Grump, I am not surprised by your name-calling, but I am disapointed.

 

[jillian]

From being gay itself? None.

From the effects of homosexual behavior, to include STDs (like AIDS) caught while participating in homosexual behavior? Dunno, but probably thousands annually in the US.

No question that's a problem for the gay community. But right now, the greatest number of deaths from HIV/AIDS is from heterosexual behavior. Yet, despite that, no one would ever say these people died from "being heterosexual.

The truth is that unsafe sex is a bad idea regardless of whether one is gay or straight and it's important for kids to truly understand the implications of their behavior and learn how to protect against disease including, though not limited to, abstinence.

 

[glockmail]

No. I asked you. Turning around and asking me the opposite is not a valid answer......

Actually it is, because you asked something rather obvious, and I explained it to you a second time. Now you are asking me to spoon-feed you. Instead you should think a little more about what you originally asked.

 

[glockmail]

Plenty of things are abnormal. Abnormal does not equate to bad......

Perhaps you could point out where I said that it was.

 

[glockmail]

No question that's a problem for the gay community. But right now, the greatest number of deaths from HIV/AIDS is from heterosexual behavior. .....

Which was spread from the homosexual population, so now we have normal people being killed off as the result of homosexual behaivior.

 

[Mr. P]

From being gay itself? None.

From the effects of homosexual behavior, to include STDs (like AIDS) caught while participating in homosexual behavior? Dunno, but probably thousands annually in the US.

Maybe. And the rest of the population deaths some 2+ million die from what? Being hetrosexual?