Are you born gay?

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    It is an obvious fact that Homosexuals cannot reproduce. Therefore someone cannot have a genetic homosexual parent. Since traits are passed on through generations, it is clear that the “trait” of homosexuality is not passed on through generations, but is in fact a learned response. Further, since I have known several who have been homosexuals in college and then entered into a heterosexual long term relationship, it is clear that they made a poor choice during a less mature period in their lives.

    One argument against this is that a gay man can have sex with and impregnate a woman. However, he would have to become, at least temporarily, a heterosexual to become aroused by that woman, as well as choose the time and place for the relation. Would not that make him a bisexual, not a dedicated homosexual? Further, one would not assume that a heterosexual male would venture from his instincts and become, even temporarily, aroused by another male and choose a time and place for a relation. So why would one assume a homosexual would venture from his instinct for the purpose of insemination? Moreover, if this is how a variant of the species procreates, then where is the evidence to support this? Are there a large percentage of homosexuals, greater than the incidence of homosexuality as a whole, who can claim they have a genetic parent who is also homosexual?

    A second argument against my theory is that homosexuals use artificial insemination to procreate. If that were true then homosexuality could never have existed before about 35 years ago.

    A third argument against is that homosexuality is the result of some kind of mutation or gene interaction between male and female DNA. If this is so, would homosexuality be in fact a medical abnormality, such as a cleft palette or autism? If that is the case, then why do we have organized groups attempting to normalize and encourage homosexuality? Moreover, where is the scientific evidence to support this? Surely pro-gay groups would have found and exploited this evidence by now.
     
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    Maybe you've hit the nail on the head. Everybody's bisexual. It's just a matter of percentage which way you lean.

    Thanks for solving the boards most pressing and frequently debated issue.

    I asked the moderators this before and I'll ask again. Since "Homosexuality" is probably the most popular topic on this forum (more than "sports" or "photography") why doesn't it have its own forum heading? Then the people who are obsessed with the issue will know where to go rather than having to jump between "Religion", "War on Terror" and all the other sections this debate rears its stupid head.
     
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    Maybe because it is an ethical/ religious/ health issue, and we have a lot of people obsessed with the truth, and hate being lied to.
     
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    What's your response to it being a recessive trait?
     
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    that's pure speculation. It's no more a recessive trait than serial killers...of course, I'm speculating, too.
     
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    You won't get an answer because if there is one things liberals despise its when its pointed out to them that homosexuality completely contradicts their most beloved belief - Darwinism. If Darwinism was true then any homosexual traits would of been eleminated in all species long ago. Liberalism tries to instill the believe that man's sins such as homosexuality are "natural" and should be encouraged. They will say homosexuality is exhibited in other animals thus its perfectly normal for a human to do it as well. What they fail to address though, is many animals also kill their own kind....so where is the line drawn for what is acceptable for humans to do if we look to the animal kingdom for moral guidance? The answer is of course God drew the line and told us homosexuality is a sin and an abomination as is killing each other. Liberals however, will tell us that killing is bad but homosexuality is ok. But where does this guidance come from? --themselves of course. Since there is no authority in liberalism their morals can change at anytime. "Killing is bad" but some liberals will turn around and even make excuses for killers in our society, instead of promoting the idea of individual responsibility for a killers own actions liberals are quick to blame society itself...leaving the killer to do what was only "natural" in his environment. Liberals refuse to acknowlege that homosexuality in humans is largely a result of either early childhood abuse or just selfish gradification. Natural or not its still wrong.
     
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    Or they were molested, or otherwise sexually abused - OR were neglected.

    See - here's how I think it works.

    God created us. Every person has an intrinsic NEED for their Father. Their spritual Father. In a mother and father, God shows us many attributes of Himself. When either of those is lacking, our very SOULS seek out feelings of acceptance, love, importance, discipline, did I mention love? If, as kids, we do NOT get what we need from or parents we become DRIVEN to find that feeling, however perverted, from others. Little girls who don't have their daddy's love might because sluts. Little boys who never have the acceptance and attention of their mothers might become...sluts. Little boys, Seeking attention and approval will spend time in the company of OTHER men - some of who may have been abused themselves. Those men may have the little boy sit on their lap, and pretend they are driving over a bumpy road. After continued abuse, when the person becomes older they assosiate the attention they got as kids with 'love'.
    Anywho - that's getting a bit off topic from my intent - which was 'EVERYONE is searching for LOVE and ACCEPTANCE from God. Apart from God, they seek it the first place they can find it. Parents. Homosexuals. Whatever. They may be ignorant of the fact, but I bet ANY homosexual who trully found Christ would no longer need to continue in his/her lifestyle, because GOD would provide all the "masculine love" they need - and HE wouldn't be HURTING THEM to show it.


    Or whatever.
     
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    Researchers have searched for a long time for a "gay gene" and so far have not found one.
     
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    Can't you guys find anything else to talk about? If the moderators used the word censor to block out the words "gay", "fag" and "homosexual" there'd be very little content left on the board.
     

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