Gay mom reflects on being the non-birthing parent & tells folks to check their assumptions

[TheProgressivePatriot]

This is a heartfelt story that illustrates the fact that, while we have come a long way, we have miles yet to go to achieve true equality and inclusiveness for gay parents

Gay mom reflects on being the non-birthing parent & tells folks to check their assumptions

"Family" no longer exclusively means a man, a woman, and their genetically-related children. Why is it taking so long for society to catch up?

www.lgbtqnation.com

Lotte Jeffs wrote in Women’s Health that it first occurred to her that some folks might take issue with how she was starting her family when a colleague “referred to the act of choosing a sperm donor as akin to the plot of a science fiction novel.”

This woman should never have been judged in this way . Science fiction? Really? Is it science fiction when a heterosexual couple uses a donor ?

“This work associate had taken umbrage with news that a sperm bank had released an app allowing women to search easily for a donor,” Jeffs wrote. “‘Tinder for baby daddies,’ she scoffed. ‘Whatever next!’ I was silent, trying to temper the anger and sadness building in my body, but I could already feel the hot prickle of tears in my eyes. My wife and I had been using this very app to find our own sperm donor, so we could have a baby together.”

Also of note:

She also decried the fact that there are multiple words for “dad” but no words for the experience of being the non-birthing parent in an LGBTQ+ couple.

“While technology and legislation have given birth to a world in which there are more ways than ever to become a parent,” she said, “the narrative that parenthood is exclusively the product of unprotected heterosexual sex persists.”

But there is a happy ending

Before her wife gave birth, Jeffs worried that not being biologically related to her daughter would affect their relationship, but it didn’t at all.

“From the first moment I held her in my arms our biological closeness was completely negated by our actual everyday closeness,” she wrote in a 2022 Instagram post. “Over the last three years, we’ve grown into and around each other as our roots become entangled.”

 

[Oddball]

 

[iamwhatiseem]

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

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Thats right mother fucker. Deal with it. You have to virtue to signal about. It must suck being you

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Thats right mother fucker. Deal with it

 

[DGS49]

In what sense are they "equal" to a normal family? The word "equal" cannot be distorted to that extent.

Thank God they didn't have a boy.

Heather has two mommies...deal with it.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

This lesbian is selling the proposition that being a parent, being a family is a state of mind. The state of mind is separate and apart from any reality. To an individual she is correct. Family can be a man and his dog. A pet parent at the dog park is no less a mom than found at the playground tot lot. However families are more than a state of mind. The family is the building block of a strong nation. In this, she fails. She will no more raise a strong citizen then I could create one from my poodle. We see the proof of this every day as a poison eating the heart of the country.

 

[progressive hunter]

This is a heartfelt story that illustrates the fact that, while we have come a long way, we have miles yet to go to achieve true equality and inclusiveness for gay parents

Gay mom reflects on being the non-birthing parent & tells folks to check their assumptions

"Family" no longer exclusively means a man, a woman, and their genetically-related children. Why is it taking so long for society to catch up?

www.lgbtqnation.com

This woman should never have been judged in this way . Science fiction? Really? Is it science fiction when a heterosexual couple uses a donor ?


Also of note:



But there is a happy ending

fuck the gay parents that put their feeling before the needs of the child,,

in fact theres no such thing as gay parents,, two men or two women cant have children,, they can only purchase them or use another person for their selfish desires,,

children deserve a mother and a father,,

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

In what sense are they "equal" to a normal family? The word "equal" cannot be distorted to that extent.

Thank God they didn't have a boy.

Heather has two mommies...deal with it.

They are equal to heterosexual parents because that are in fact parents who nurture, love and protect their child. Who the fuck are you to decide what is normal??!! The definition of normalcy, of what a family is has evolved. Apparently, you have not evolved and probably never will

And what is that codswallop about having a boy? What exactly do you mean by that ?

 

[progressive hunter]

They are equal to heterosexual parents because that are in fact parents who nurture, love and protect their child. Who the fuck are you to decide what is normal??!! The definition of normalcy, of what a family is has evolved. Apparently, you have not evolved and probably never will

And what is that codswallop about having a boy? What exactly do you mean by that ?

MY ASS!!

normal is two people that dont need help to have a child,,


if you have to purchase one of use the body of another person to get a child is not normal,,

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

This lesbian is selling the proposition that being a parent, being a family is a state of mind. The state of mind is separate and apart from any reality. To an individual she is correct. Family can be a man and his dog. A pet parent at the dog park is no less a mom than found at the playground tot lot. However families are more than a state of mind. The family is the building block of a strong nation. In this, she fails. She will no more raise a strong citizen then I could create one from my poodle. We see the proof of this every day as a poison eating the heart of the country.

You are an ignorant ass:

New Study: No Difference Between Gay & Straight Adoptive Parents

It follows that the same is true of children born into a same sex marriage
http://www.edgemedianetwork.com/news/family/147523/new_study:_no_difference_between_gay_&_straight_adoptive_parents
by David  Perry
Contributor
Monday Jul 29, 2013
A recently released study by the Williams Institute confirms there is no difference in the behavioral outcomes of adopted children raised in same-sex households when compared to those raised by heterosexual couples.

"Parents’ sexual orientation is not related to children’s emotional and behavioral outcomes," confirms Williams Visiting Scholar Abbie Goldberg, who co-authored the study with JuliAnna Z. Smith of the University of Massachusetts. A national think tank at University of California, Los Angeles Law, the Williams Institute conducts independent research relating to sexual orientation, gender identity law, and public policy.
The study, "Predictors of Psychological Adjustment in Early Placed Adopted Children With Lesbian, Gay, and Heterosexual Parents," analyzed 120 two-parent adoptive families, comprising of 40 same-sex female couples, 35 same-sex male, and 45 different-sex couples, looking at aspects of the pre- and post-adoptive developments of the children.

For all couples, the child was under 1.5 years of age, and was the first and only child adopted. The findings are consistent with an emerging body of research showing that parents’ sexual orientation are not related to children’s emotional and behavioral outcomes, and the Williams Institute study is unique in that it is longitudinal - i.e. follows couples over time - and includes adopted children, as well as includes three types of parents: gay, lesbian, and heterosexual (Goldberg explains how past same-sex parent studies tended to focus on lesbian parents).


Here is more:

In a project launched last month, a team at Columbia Law School has collected on one website the abstracts of all peer-reviewed studies that have addressed this question since 1980 so that anyone can examine the research directly, and not rely on talking heads or potential groupthink. Even when we might not agree with a study’s conclusions—with how a researcher interpreted the data—we still included it if it went through peer review and was relevant to the topic at hand. Peer review, of course, isn’t perfect, but it’s one of the best ways the world has to ensure that research conclusions are at least the product of good-faith efforts to get at the truth.

The Columbia project is the largest collection of peer-reviewed scholarship on gay parenting to date. What does it show? We found 71 studies concluding that kids with gay parents fare no worse than others and only four concluding that they had problems. But those four studies all suffered from the same gross limitation: The children with gay parents were lumped in with children of family breakup, a cohort known to face higher risks linked to the trauma of family dissolution.


Even the notion that some try to put forth, that there are no good studies is wrong...the studies, while not perfect do give us a very good idea on the conclusions and that is that gay homes are not better nor worse.

Here is a link to all the studies

http://whatweknow.law.columbia.edu/...eing-of-children-with-gay-or-lesbian-parents/

I should add, the consensus that kids in gay homes do just as well as kids in straight homes is recognized

LGBT parenting - Wikipedia

Consensus

The scientific research that has directly compared outcomes for children with gay and lesbian parents with outcomes for children with heterosexual parents has been consistent in showing that lesbian and gay parents are as fit and capable as heterosexual parents, and their children are as psychologically healthy and well-adjusted as children reared by heterosexual parents,[3][4][5] despite the reality that considerable legal discrimination and inequity remain significant challenges for these families.[4] Major associations of mental health professionals in the U.S., Canada, and Australia, have not identified credible empirical research that suggests otherwise.[5][6][7][8][9] Literature indicates that parents’ financial, psychological and physical well-being is enhanced by marriage and that children benefit from being raised by two parents within a legally recognized union.[5][6][87][92] Statistics show that home and childcare activities in homosexual households are more evenly split between the two rather than having specific gender roles,[93] and that there were no differences in the interests and hobbies of children with homosexual or heterosexual parents.[94]

And more:

The Australian Study of Child Health in Same-Sex Families is the world’s largest attempt to study how children raised by same-sex couples compare to children raised by heterosexual couples. According to a preliminary report on the study of 500 children across the country of Australia, these young people are not only thriving, but also have higher rates of family cohesion than other families:

An interim report found there was no statistical difference between children of same-sex couples and the rest of the population on indicators including self-esteem, emotional behaviour and the amount of time spent with parents.

However, children of same-sex couples scored higher than the national average for overall health and family cohesion, measuring how well a family gets along. http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/06/05/2106751/same-sex-parenting-study/

Children raised by same-sex couples appear to do as well as those raised by parents of both sexes, suggests an international research review that challenges the long-ingrained belief that children need male and female parents for healthy adjustment.

"It's more about the quality of the parenting than the gender of the parents," says Judith Stacey of New York University, co-author of the comprehensive review. It will be published Friday in the Journal of Marriage and Family.

Same-sex couples can be effective parents, researchers find - USATODAY.com

A sampling of recent studies of same-sex parenting: http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_pare2.htm

• 1997-APR: Three 3 recent studies from the US, Britain and the Netherlands were presented at the national meeting of the Society for Research on Child Development during 1997-APR .

Charlotte Patterson, a research psychologist at the University of Virginia and author of one of the new studies, said "When you look at kids with standard psychological assessments, you can't tell who has a lesbian parent and who has a heterosexual parent...That's really the main finding from these studies." She agreed that the studies to date are relatively few and open to criticism.

There may be indications that children benefit from having two lesbian parents. Fiona Tasker of Birkbeck College in the Netherlands, "...found that the non-biological lesbian parent was usually more involved with the children than are the fathers of heterosexual couples." There is also anecdotal evidence that children of gay or lesbian parents tend to be less prejudiced.

• 1999-APR: Researcher Fiona Tasker at Birkbeck College, UK, published an article in Clinical Child Psychology and Psychiatry. A summary reads: "There are an increasing number of children who are being brought up in lesbian-led families. Research on non-clinical samples of children raised in lesbian-led families formed after parental divorce, together with studies of children raised in families planned by a single lesbian mother or lesbian couple, suggest that growing up in a lesbian-led family does not have negative effects on key developmental outcomes. In many ways family life for children growing up in lesbian-led families is similar to that experienced by children in heterosexual families. In other respects there are important distinctions, such as different types of family forms and the impact of social stigma on the family, that may influence how clinicians approach therapeutic work with children in lesbian mother families." 14
• 2001-APR: Researchers Judith Stacey and Timothy Biblarz of the University of Southern California studied sexual orientation and parenting. They reported their findings in the American Sociological Review, a peer-reviewed journal. 1 They :
• Discussed "...limitations in the definitions, samples and analyses of the studies to date."
• Examined 21 studies which "almost uniformly reports findings of no notable differences between children reared by heterosexual parents and those reared by lesbian and gay parents..."

All or most of this was funded by universities, not the APA. I challenge you to refute any of it. If you can’t than just shut the fuck up

 

[progressive hunter]

You are an ignorant ass:

New Study: No Difference Between Gay & Straight Adoptive Parents

It follows that the same is true of children born into a same sex marriage
http://www.edgemedianetwork.com/news/family/147523/new_study:_no_difference_between_gay_&_straight_adoptive_parents
by David  Perry
Contributor
Monday Jul 29, 2013
A recently released study by the Williams Institute confirms there is no difference in the behavioral outcomes of adopted children raised in same-sex households when compared to those raised by heterosexual couples.

"Parents’ sexual orientation is not related to children’s emotional and behavioral outcomes," confirms Williams Visiting Scholar Abbie Goldberg, who co-authored the study with JuliAnna Z. Smith of the University of Massachusetts. A national think tank at University of California, Los Angeles Law, the Williams Institute conducts independent research relating to sexual orientation, gender identity law, and public policy.
The study, "Predictors of Psychological Adjustment in Early Placed Adopted Children With Lesbian, Gay, and Heterosexual Parents," analyzed 120 two-parent adoptive families, comprising of 40 same-sex female couples, 35 same-sex male, and 45 different-sex couples, looking at aspects of the pre- and post-adoptive developments of the children.

For all couples, the child was under 1.5 years of age, and was the first and only child adopted. The findings are consistent with an emerging body of research showing that parents’ sexual orientation are not related to children’s emotional and behavioral outcomes, and the Williams Institute study is unique in that it is longitudinal - i.e. follows couples over time - and includes adopted children, as well as includes three types of parents: gay, lesbian, and heterosexual (Goldberg explains how past same-sex parent studies tended to focus on lesbian parents).


Here is more:

In a project launched last month, a team at Columbia Law School has collected on one website the abstracts of all peer-reviewed studies that have addressed this question since 1980 so that anyone can examine the research directly, and not rely on talking heads or potential groupthink. Even when we might not agree with a study’s conclusions—with how a researcher interpreted the data—we still included it if it went through peer review and was relevant to the topic at hand. Peer review, of course, isn’t perfect, but it’s one of the best ways the world has to ensure that research conclusions are at least the product of good-faith efforts to get at the truth.

The Columbia project is the largest collection of peer-reviewed scholarship on gay parenting to date. What does it show? We found 71 studies concluding that kids with gay parents fare no worse than others and only four concluding that they had problems. But those four studies all suffered from the same gross limitation: The children with gay parents were lumped in with children of family breakup, a cohort known to face higher risks linked to the trauma of family dissolution.


Even the notion that some try to put forth, that there are no good studies is wrong...the studies, while not perfect do give us a very good idea on the conclusions and that is that gay homes are not better nor worse.

Here is a link to all the studies

http://whatweknow.law.columbia.edu/...eing-of-children-with-gay-or-lesbian-parents/

I should add, the consensus that kids in gay homes do just as well as kids in straight homes is recognized

LGBT parenting - Wikipedia

Consensus

The scientific research that has directly compared outcomes for children with gay and lesbian parents with outcomes for children with heterosexual parents has been consistent in showing that lesbian and gay parents are as fit and capable as heterosexual parents, and their children are as psychologically healthy and well-adjusted as children reared by heterosexual parents,[3][4][5] despite the reality that considerable legal discrimination and inequity remain significant challenges for these families.[4] Major associations of mental health professionals in the U.S., Canada, and Australia, have not identified credible empirical research that suggests otherwise.[5][6][7][8][9] Literature indicates that parents’ financial, psychological and physical well-being is enhanced by marriage and that children benefit from being raised by two parents within a legally recognized union.[5][6][87][92] Statistics show that home and childcare activities in homosexual households are more evenly split between the two rather than having specific gender roles,[93] and that there were no differences in the interests and hobbies of children with homosexual or heterosexual parents.[94]

And more:

The Australian Study of Child Health in Same-Sex Families is the world’s largest attempt to study how children raised by same-sex couples compare to children raised by heterosexual couples. According to a preliminary report on the study of 500 children across the country of Australia, these young people are not only thriving, but also have higher rates of family cohesion than other families:

An interim report found there was no statistical difference between children of same-sex couples and the rest of the population on indicators including self-esteem, emotional behaviour and the amount of time spent with parents.

However, children of same-sex couples scored higher than the national average for overall health and family cohesion, measuring how well a family gets along. http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/06/05/2106751/same-sex-parenting-study/

Children raised by same-sex couples appear to do as well as those raised by parents of both sexes, suggests an international research review that challenges the long-ingrained belief that children need male and female parents for healthy adjustment.

"It's more about the quality of the parenting than the gender of the parents," says Judith Stacey of New York University, co-author of the comprehensive review. It will be published Friday in the Journal of Marriage and Family.

Same-sex couples can be effective parents, researchers find - USATODAY.com

A sampling of recent studies of same-sex parenting: http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_pare2.htm

• 1997-APR: Three 3 recent studies from the US, Britain and the Netherlands were presented at the national meeting of the Society for Research on Child Development during 1997-APR .

Charlotte Patterson, a research psychologist at the University of Virginia and author of one of the new studies, said "When you look at kids with standard psychological assessments, you can't tell who has a lesbian parent and who has a heterosexual parent...That's really the main finding from these studies." She agreed that the studies to date are relatively few and open to criticism.

There may be indications that children benefit from having two lesbian parents. Fiona Tasker of Birkbeck College in the Netherlands, "...found that the non-biological lesbian parent was usually more involved with the children than are the fathers of heterosexual couples." There is also anecdotal evidence that children of gay or lesbian parents tend to be less prejudiced.

• 1999-APR: Researcher Fiona Tasker at Birkbeck College, UK, published an article in Clinical Child Psychology and Psychiatry. A summary reads: "There are an increasing number of children who are being brought up in lesbian-led families. Research on non-clinical samples of children raised in lesbian-led families formed after parental divorce, together with studies of children raised in families planned by a single lesbian mother or lesbian couple, suggest that growing up in a lesbian-led family does not have negative effects on key developmental outcomes. In many ways family life for children growing up in lesbian-led families is similar to that experienced by children in heterosexual families. In other respects there are important distinctions, such as different types of family forms and the impact of social stigma on the family, that may influence how clinicians approach therapeutic work with children in lesbian mother families." 14
• 
  
• 2001-APR: Researchers Judith Stacey and Timothy Biblarz of the University of Southern California studied sexual orientation and parenting. They reported their findings in the American Sociological Review, a peer-reviewed journal. 1 They :
• Discussed "...limitations in the definitions, samples and analyses of the studies to date."
• Examined 21 studies which "almost uniformly reports findings of no notable differences between children reared by heterosexual parents and those reared by lesbian and gay parents..."

All or most of this was funded by universities, not the APA. I challenge you to refute any of it. If you can’t than just shut the fuck up

well since we have a study on it lets go ahead and set children up to be molested,,

 

[EvilCat Breath]

You are an ignorant ass:

New Study: No Difference Between Gay & Straight Adoptive Parents

It follows that the same is true of children born into a same sex marriage
http://www.edgemedianetwork.com/news/family/147523/new_study:_no_difference_between_gay_&_straight_adoptive_parents
by David  Perry
Contributor
Monday Jul 29, 2013
A recently released study by the Williams Institute confirms there is no difference in the behavioral outcomes of adopted children raised in same-sex households when compared to those raised by heterosexual couples.

"Parents’ sexual orientation is not related to children’s emotional and behavioral outcomes," confirms Williams Visiting Scholar Abbie Goldberg, who co-authored the study with JuliAnna Z. Smith of the University of Massachusetts. A national think tank at University of California, Los Angeles Law, the Williams Institute conducts independent research relating to sexual orientation, gender identity law, and public policy.
The study, "Predictors of Psychological Adjustment in Early Placed Adopted Children With Lesbian, Gay, and Heterosexual Parents," analyzed 120 two-parent adoptive families, comprising of 40 same-sex female couples, 35 same-sex male, and 45 different-sex couples, looking at aspects of the pre- and post-adoptive developments of the children.

For all couples, the child was under 1.5 years of age, and was the first and only child adopted. The findings are consistent with an emerging body of research showing that parents’ sexual orientation are not related to children’s emotional and behavioral outcomes, and the Williams Institute study is unique in that it is longitudinal - i.e. follows couples over time - and includes adopted children, as well as includes three types of parents: gay, lesbian, and heterosexual (Goldberg explains how past same-sex parent studies tended to focus on lesbian parents).


Here is more:

In a project launched last month, a team at Columbia Law School has collected on one website the abstracts of all peer-reviewed studies that have addressed this question since 1980 so that anyone can examine the research directly, and not rely on talking heads or potential groupthink. Even when we might not agree with a study’s conclusions—with how a researcher interpreted the data—we still included it if it went through peer review and was relevant to the topic at hand. Peer review, of course, isn’t perfect, but it’s one of the best ways the world has to ensure that research conclusions are at least the product of good-faith efforts to get at the truth.

The Columbia project is the largest collection of peer-reviewed scholarship on gay parenting to date. What does it show? We found 71 studies concluding that kids with gay parents fare no worse than others and only four concluding that they had problems. But those four studies all suffered from the same gross limitation: The children with gay parents were lumped in with children of family breakup, a cohort known to face higher risks linked to the trauma of family dissolution.


Even the notion that some try to put forth, that there are no good studies is wrong...the studies, while not perfect do give us a very good idea on the conclusions and that is that gay homes are not better nor worse.

Here is a link to all the studies

http://whatweknow.law.columbia.edu/...eing-of-children-with-gay-or-lesbian-parents/

I should add, the consensus that kids in gay homes do just as well as kids in straight homes is recognized

LGBT parenting - Wikipedia

Consensus

The scientific research that has directly compared outcomes for children with gay and lesbian parents with outcomes for children with heterosexual parents has been consistent in showing that lesbian and gay parents are as fit and capable as heterosexual parents, and their children are as psychologically healthy and well-adjusted as children reared by heterosexual parents,[3][4][5] despite the reality that considerable legal discrimination and inequity remain significant challenges for these families.[4] Major associations of mental health professionals in the U.S., Canada, and Australia, have not identified credible empirical research that suggests otherwise.[5][6][7][8][9] Literature indicates that parents’ financial, psychological and physical well-being is enhanced by marriage and that children benefit from being raised by two parents within a legally recognized union.[5][6][87][92] Statistics show that home and childcare activities in homosexual households are more evenly split between the two rather than having specific gender roles,[93] and that there were no differences in the interests and hobbies of children with homosexual or heterosexual parents.[94]

And more:

The Australian Study of Child Health in Same-Sex Families is the world’s largest attempt to study how children raised by same-sex couples compare to children raised by heterosexual couples. According to a preliminary report on the study of 500 children across the country of Australia, these young people are not only thriving, but also have higher rates of family cohesion than other families:

An interim report found there was no statistical difference between children of same-sex couples and the rest of the population on indicators including self-esteem, emotional behaviour and the amount of time spent with parents.

However, children of same-sex couples scored higher than the national average for overall health and family cohesion, measuring how well a family gets along. http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/06/05/2106751/same-sex-parenting-study/

Children raised by same-sex couples appear to do as well as those raised by parents of both sexes, suggests an international research review that challenges the long-ingrained belief that children need male and female parents for healthy adjustment.

"It's more about the quality of the parenting than the gender of the parents," says Judith Stacey of New York University, co-author of the comprehensive review. It will be published Friday in the Journal of Marriage and Family.

Same-sex couples can be effective parents, researchers find - USATODAY.com

A sampling of recent studies of same-sex parenting: http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_pare2.htm

• 1997-APR: Three 3 recent studies from the US, Britain and the Netherlands were presented at the national meeting of the Society for Research on Child Development during 1997-APR .

Charlotte Patterson, a research psychologist at the University of Virginia and author of one of the new studies, said "When you look at kids with standard psychological assessments, you can't tell who has a lesbian parent and who has a heterosexual parent...That's really the main finding from these studies." She agreed that the studies to date are relatively few and open to criticism.

There may be indications that children benefit from having two lesbian parents. Fiona Tasker of Birkbeck College in the Netherlands, "...found that the non-biological lesbian parent was usually more involved with the children than are the fathers of heterosexual couples." There is also anecdotal evidence that children of gay or lesbian parents tend to be less prejudiced.

• 1999-APR: Researcher Fiona Tasker at Birkbeck College, UK, published an article in Clinical Child Psychology and Psychiatry. A summary reads: "There are an increasing number of children who are being brought up in lesbian-led families. Research on non-clinical samples of children raised in lesbian-led families formed after parental divorce, together with studies of children raised in families planned by a single lesbian mother or lesbian couple, suggest that growing up in a lesbian-led family does not have negative effects on key developmental outcomes. In many ways family life for children growing up in lesbian-led families is similar to that experienced by children in heterosexual families. In other respects there are important distinctions, such as different types of family forms and the impact of social stigma on the family, that may influence how clinicians approach therapeutic work with children in lesbian mother families." 14
• 
  
• 2001-APR: Researchers Judith Stacey and Timothy Biblarz of the University of Southern California studied sexual orientation and parenting. They reported their findings in the American Sociological Review, a peer-reviewed journal. 1 They :
• Discussed "...limitations in the definitions, samples and analyses of the studies to date."
• Examined 21 studies which "almost uniformly reports findings of no notable differences between children reared by heterosexual parents and those reared by lesbian and gay parents..."

All or most of this was funded by universities, not the APA. I challenge you to refute any of it. If you can’t than just shut the fuck up

Start out with a predetermined outcom Then, pay a study to reach that conclusion. Simple. Done every day.

We can experience and see exactly how aberrant families raise children all around us.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Start out with a predetermined outcom Then, pay a study to reach that conclusion. Simple. Done every day.

We can experience and see exactly how aberrant families raise children all around us.

Thank you for clearly demonstrating that you are not bright enough to understand the value of research studies. Indeed , I doubt if you even read the post. You are the one with the pre determind outcomes because your bigotry is so much a part of your identity that you dare not look at facts that might contradict those beliefs

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Thank you for clearly demonstrating that you are not bright enough to understand the value of research studies. Indeed , I doubt if you even read the post. You are the one with the pre determind outcomes because your bigotry is so much a part of your identity that you dare not look at facts that might contradict those beliefs

It is obvious to anyone and everyone that the aberrant alphabets raise mentally and emotionally disturbed children into dysfunctional and troubled adults. No study necessary. If it is bigotry to want to keep children away from these twisted monsters that would chemically castrate boys as young as 3, and remove the developing breasts of a 12 year old girl, PLEASE call me a very proud bigot.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

But there is a happy ending

What was it like when you chose your sperm donor, and how many times has he donated his sperm to you?

I am just trying to discern your degree of happiness, here.

 

[JohnDB]

She is saying the exact same things about pedophiles as they have said about homosexuality.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

It is obvious to anyone and everyone that the aberrant alphabets raise mentally and emotionally disturbed children into dysfunctional and troubled adults. No study necessary. If it is bigotry to want to keep children away from these twisted monsters that would chemically castrate boys as young as 3, and remove the developing breasts of a 12 year old girl, PLEASE call me a very proud bigot.

Get the fuck over it a crawl back under your rock. And the subject is gay parenting , not transgender

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

It is obvious to anyone and everyone that the aberrant alphabets raise mentally and emotionally disturbed children into dysfunctional and troubled adults. No study necessary. If it is bigotry to want to keep children away from these twisted monsters that would chemically castrate boys as young as 3, and remove the developing breasts of a 12 year old girl, PLEASE call me a very proud bigot.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Get the fuck over it a crawl back under your rock. And the subject is gay parenting , not transgender
View attachment 904878

Gay parents cannot raise children into self sufficient strong adults. They will always be aberrational.