Are we too far gone?

I think we are. This country is on a downward slide, and there is nothing that can be done to stop it.

The division is so bad now, I don't think we will ever come together again. Perhaps we need to stop worrying about changing the country and start managing the fall.

We are nearly to the point of civil war. All it will take is the right catalyst to start.

This country is not like it was 10 years ago. Obama's pledge to radically transform the country did indeed happen, perhaps not in the way he envisioned, but we are changed.

We are vicious, divided, hate filled people. I just think this country is done. Her best days gone.

They say history repeats itself, and most empires don't last. I think our empire has run its course. It's only a matter if time before we destroy ourselves from within, or another country invades and takes us over.
Rubbish.

The Republic will continue to exist AS a republic long after your great-great-great-grandchildren have lived-out their lives.

Other than foreign provocateur-trolls and wing-nuts on both sides, the vast majority of Americans are Union Men, through-and-through.
I've always heard the left out number the right by quite a margin. With the way millennials are being raised, they are all growing up with socialist indoctrination. It won't be long before the left has ultimate and unfettered control. Those millennials will grow up to be the next generation of politicians, the constitution will be eradicated and the United States will be changed forever.
 
I think we are. This country is on a downward slide, and there is nothing that can be done to stop it.

The division is so bad now, I don't think we will ever come together again. Perhaps we need to stop worrying about changing the country and start managing the fall.

We are nearly to the point of civil war. All it will take is the right catalyst to start.

This country is not like it was 10 years ago. Obama's pledge to radically transform the country did indeed happen, perhaps not in the way he envisioned, but we are changed.

We are vicious, divided, hate filled people. I just think this country is done. Her best days gone.

They say history repeats itself, and most empires don't last. I think our empire has run its course. It's only a matter if time before we destroy ourselves from within, or another country invades and takes us over.
Rubbish.

The Republic will continue to exist AS a republic long after your great-great-great-grandchildren have lived-out their lives.

Other than foreign provocateur-trolls and wing-nuts on both sides, the vast majority of Americans are Union Men, through-and-through.
I've always heard the left out number the right by quite a margin. With the way millennials are being raised, they are all growing up with socialist indoctrination. It won't be long before the left has ultimate and unfettered control. Those millennials will grow up to be the next generation of politicians, the constitution will be eradicated and the United States will be changed forever.

Maybe the right should've done a better job of attracting us to their cause, no? Too bad they didn't. Not that I think your doomsday prophecy has any merit.
 
I think we are. This country is on a downward slide, and there is nothing that can be done to stop it.

The division is so bad now, I don't think we will ever come together again. Perhaps we need to stop worrying about changing the country and start managing the fall.

We are nearly to the point of civil war. All it will take is the right catalyst to start.

This country is not like it was 10 years ago. Obama's pledge to radically transform the country did indeed happen, perhaps not in the way he envisioned, but we are changed.

We are vicious, divided, hate filled people. I just think this country is done. Her best days gone.

They say history repeats itself, and most empires don't last. I think our empire has run its course. It's only a matter if time before we destroy ourselves from within, or another country invades and takes us over.
Not even close, in another few presidential cycles the aging RWNJs will be mostly gone and things will level out.
--------------------------------------------------- Crep might be correct . After we 'OLD Americans are gone there will be no more Americans in any great number and you millenials , trannies , hip hoppers , dopers and druggies will be MORE free to really slide into the Gutter . Thanks for your post number 6 Crep .
You really have an unrealistic view of folks younger than yourself
 
I debated whether or not to post on this thread. And decided ......you listen to Glen Beck too much.

He's Back! Glenn Beck Says Obama Will Throw Opponents in Internment Camps
We are Germany 1930. You can deny it all you want,” he said. “But the socialist revolution is here.”
Actually, I dont listen to beck much anymore. When I listen to conservative radio, I may tune in to beck, but I actually prefer his show now when he is not there, and pat and stu run the show.

Mostly I listen to wilkow on the right, and signorile and obiedalah on the left.

This is just the way I'm feeling these days. It's just hard for me to ignore. You see the fighting here on usmb, and other forums and the stark division in our government. Nobody is getting along, and nobody wants to get along.

We cant continue on this path. It will destroy us in the end.
 
Please start looking at the political moves happening on the world stage, and not so much finger pointing name calling.
 
All that is needed is for people of all political stripes to insist that facts and evidence be adhered to when making policy decisions.

If we had facts and evidence, we don't need policy. Policy is needed when there is a less than clear path. Nice platitude though. :lol:

For instance, illegals. The policy under Obama was tolerate them. The law says something different.

That's bullshit. Why do you bother?
 
I debated whether or not to post on this thread. And decided ......you listen to Glen Beck too much.

He's Back! Glenn Beck Says Obama Will Throw Opponents in Internment Camps
We are Germany 1930. You can deny it all you want,” he said. “But the socialist revolution is here.”
Actually, I dont listen to beck much anymore. When I listen to conservative radio, I may tune in to beck, but I actually prefer his show now when he is not there, and pat and stu run the show.

Mostly I listen to wilkow on the right, and signorile and obiedalah on the left.

This is just the way I'm feeling these days. It's just hard for me to ignore. You see the fighting here on usmb, and other forums and the stark division in our government. Nobody is getting along, and nobody wants to get along.

We cant continue on this path. It will destroy us in the end.

Your listening habits are part of your problem.
 
I think we are. This country is on a downward slide, and there is nothing that can be done to stop it.

The division is so bad now, I don't think we will ever come together again. Perhaps we need to stop worrying about changing the country and start managing the fall.

We are nearly to the point of civil war. All it will take is the right catalyst to start.

This country is not like it was 10 years ago. Obama's pledge to radically transform the country did indeed happen, perhaps not in the way he envisioned, but we are changed.

We are vicious, divided, hate filled people. I just think this country is done. Her best days gone.

They say history repeats itself, and most empires don't last. I think our empire has run its course. It's only a matter if time before we destroy ourselves from within, or another country invades and takes us over.
Rubbish.

The Republic will continue to exist AS a republic long after your great-great-great-grandchildren have lived-out their lives.

Other than foreign provocateur-trolls and wing-nuts on both sides, the vast majority of Americans are Union Men, through-and-through.
I've always heard the left out number the right by quite a margin. With the way millennials are being raised, they are all growing up with socialist indoctrination. It won't be long before the left has ultimate and unfettered control. Those millennials will grow up to be the next generation of politicians, the constitution will be eradicated and the United States will be changed forever.

Maybe the right should've done a better job of attracting us to their cause, no? Too bad they didn't. Not that I think your doomsday prophecy has any merit.

You have never been capable of self reliance, you need to be fed and told what to do.
 
All that is needed is for people of all political stripes to insist that facts and evidence be adhered to when making policy decisions.

If we had facts and evidence, we don't need policy. Policy is needed when there is a less than clear path. Nice platitude though. :lol:

For instance, illegals. The policy under Obama was tolerate them. The law says something different.

That's bullshit. Why do you bother?

Because I understand what a policy, facts, evidence and law are.
 
I think we are. This country is on a downward slide, and there is nothing that can be done to stop it.

The division is so bad now, I don't think we will ever come together again. Perhaps we need to stop worrying about changing the country and start managing the fall.

We are nearly to the point of civil war. All it will take is the right catalyst to start.

This country is not like it was 10 years ago. Obama's pledge to radically transform the country did indeed happen, perhaps not in the way he envisioned, but we are changed.

We are vicious, divided, hate filled people. I just think this country is done. Her best days gone.

They say history repeats itself, and most empires don't last. I think our empire has run its course. It's only a matter if time before we destroy ourselves from within, or another country invades and takes us over.

Geez , put a skirt on!

If you think NOW Is bad then you are just ignorant about history .

If anything we are so spoiled nowadays that we have to look for stupid shit to be outraged about .

Really, what are you worried about ?
I'm not worried about anything. This is just my observational opinion.

Look at where we are now. Stock market is in the toilet, government shut down because it cant agree on anything. Most of our elected officials no longer care about the people, they are just there to enrich themselves and keep power. All of them are generally corrupt, and the citizens are hung out to dry as they fight amongst themselves to get nothing done.

All legislation passed contains all kinds of pork and frivolous spending, our debt is crushing us, and if we lose the dollar as the world reserve currency and the Petro dollar (which countries are now attempting to do), we will be a broke nation.

It is simply unsustainable, and the people grow more weary each day.

Again, how long do people really think we can keep this up? China is about to surpass us as the world's leading economy, and they are also about to pass us in having the world's strongest and most sophisticated army.
 
Eventually things will get bad enough that liberals will turn to conservatives to fix it.


Nonsense.

Slavery existed and liberals fixed it
Women couldn't vote and liberals fixed it.
Before unions workers were getting screwed and liberals fixed it.
Gays were persecuted and liberals fixed it.
Corporations were dumping poisons in our water supply and play grounds and liberals fixed it.
Pot smokers were being persecuted and now liberals are fixing it.
The food you eat is safer because liberals fixed it.


you are welcome.
 
I think we are. This country is on a downward slide, and there is nothing that can be done to stop it.

The division is so bad now, I don't think we will ever come together again. Perhaps we need to stop worrying about changing the country and start managing the fall.

We are nearly to the point of civil war. All it will take is the right catalyst to start.

This country is not like it was 10 years ago. Obama's pledge to radically transform the country did indeed happen, perhaps not in the way he envisioned, but we are changed.

We are vicious, divided, hate filled people. I just think this country is done. Her best days gone.

They say history repeats itself, and most empires don't last. I think our empire has run its course. It's only a matter if time before we destroy ourselves from within, or another country invades and takes us over.
Not even close, in another few presidential cycles the aging RWNJs will be mostly gone and things will level out.
--------------------------------------------------- Crep might be correct . After we 'OLD Americans are gone there will be no more Americans in any great number and you millenials , trannies , hip hoppers , dopers and druggies will be MORE free to really slide into the Gutter . Thanks for your post number 6 Crep .
You really have an unrealistic view of folks younger than yourself
-------------------------------------------- yeah , i see the millenials arguing for ' guilty till proven innocent' as one big example , arguing to be 'trannies' , arguing for gun control , arguing to being dopers , arguing for unfettered immigration of third worlders and not knowing what sex they are . Yeah , those millenials are sure smart and will be smarter when old guy Daddy is gone Crep .
 
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SL your SO-CALLED "facts" are rejected by dumbo donny himself :eusa_clap:


“'We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, unchecked...'” Barrack Obama, 2005," Trump wrote on Sunday, quoting the former president in 2005. Then-Sen. Obama made the remarks at a press conference with then-Florida GOP Sen. Mel Martinez, as part of a bipartisan effort to address illegal immigration.

PELOSI TO DHS SECRETARY: 'I REJECT YOUR FACTS'

Obama's full quote at the time: "We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States, undetected, undocumented, unchecked and circumventing the line of people who are waiting patiently, diligently and lawfully to become immigrants in this country."

"We all agree on the need to better secure the border and to punish employers who choose to hire illegal immigrants," Obama added. "We are a generous and welcoming people, here in the United States, but those who enter the country illegally, and those who employ them, disrespect the rule of law and they are showing disregard for those who are following the law."


Obama went on to advocate for imposing a "hefty fine" on those already in the country illegally, as well as tighter border security measures.

In his post, Trump also provided a partial quote from former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, emphasizing her support for the Secure Fence Act of 2006. That legislation passed by an overwhelming 80-19 majority, and was backed by Obama, as well.

"I voted, when I was a Senator, to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in...” Hillary Clinton, 2015," Trump wrote.

At a campaign stop in November 2015, Clinton told a crowd: "I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in. And I do think you have to control your borders."




Trump cites unlikely allies Clinton, Obama amid border wall showdown
 
I think we are. This country is on a downward slide, and there is nothing that can be done to stop it.

The division is so bad now, I don't think we will ever come together again. Perhaps we need to stop worrying about changing the country and start managing the fall.

We are nearly to the point of civil war. All it will take is the right catalyst to start.

This country is not like it was 10 years ago. Obama's pledge to radically transform the country did indeed happen, perhaps not in the way he envisioned, but we are changed.

We are vicious, divided, hate filled people. I just think this country is done. Her best days gone.

They say history repeats itself, and most empires don't last. I think our empire has run its course. It's only a matter if time before we destroy ourselves from within, or another country invades and takes us over.
Rubbish.

The Republic will continue to exist AS a republic long after your great-great-great-grandchildren have lived-out their lives.

Other than foreign provocateur-trolls and wing-nuts on both sides, the vast majority of Americans are Union Men, through-and-through.
I've always heard the left out number the right by quite a margin. With the way millennials are being raised, they are all growing up with socialist indoctrination. It won't be long before the left has ultimate and unfettered control. Those millennials will grow up to be the next generation of politicians, the constitution will be eradicated and the United States will be changed forever.

Maybe the right should've done a better job of attracting us to their cause, no? Too bad they didn't. Not that I think your doomsday prophecy has any merit.

You have never been capable of self reliance, you need to be fed and told what to do.

What are you talking about? Lol.
 
The funny thing is the left blame Trump for being divisive.

When you think about it, him making or saying America first was the big dog whistle claiming that is.........."RACIST!"

No longer trading with countries taking complete advantage of us. "RACIST!"

Economy is doing quite well and unlike obama who had the fed gift wrap him ZIRP, the fed is raising the interest rate. Yet, the economy is still growing at a wonderful rate.

Now, the disgraceful congress going in to obstruct, sabotage and impeach. For what? Anyone know?

Yet it is Trump that is the divisive one.

Cause, cause......he "TWEEEEEEEEEEETS."

Our country is too far gone and our PC culture is the actual reason. The mainstream media, hollywood and educational system.

That is not changing. It is gone.
 
All that is needed is for people of all political stripes to insist that facts and evidence be adhered to when making policy decisions.

If we had facts and evidence, we don't need policy. Policy is needed when there is a less than clear path. Nice platitude though. :lol:

For instance, illegals. The policy under Obama was tolerate them. The law says something different.

That's bullshit. Why do you bother?

Because I understand what a policy, facts, evidence and law are.

You might. But you do not demand that they be adhered to. You put your ideology above facts and evidence with every fucking moment of your sad existence.....as far as I know it to be.
 
I debated whether or not to post on this thread. And decided ......you listen to Glen Beck too much.

He's Back! Glenn Beck Says Obama Will Throw Opponents in Internment Camps
We are Germany 1930. You can deny it all you want,” he said. “But the socialist revolution is here.”
Actually, I dont listen to beck much anymore. When I listen to conservative radio, I may tune in to beck, but I actually prefer his show now when he is not there, and pat and stu run the show.

Mostly I listen to wilkow on the right, and signorile and obiedalah on the left.

This is just the way I'm feeling these days. It's just hard for me to ignore. You see the fighting here on usmb, and other forums and the stark division in our government. Nobody is getting along, and nobody wants to get along.

We cant continue on this path. It will destroy us in the end.

Your listening habits are part of your problem.
How so? I listen to both sides. It's amazing that when you listen to two sides of a topic how utterly divided the two parties are. Its simply amazing how you can take any topic, have left and right talk shows discuss it, and their opinions could not be more opposite.

It's almost like its staged that way. In my opinion, there are very few topics where two different ideologies cant at least find some common ground. Not the case these days. Listen to the right talk about a topic, then turn to a left leaning station and listen to them talk about the exact same topic, and have completely different views. It's almost as if it is scripted.

Again, this is just how "I" see things. Yes, I probably listen to more talk radio than I should, but it has allowed me to see how utterly divided we are. Its quite uncanny.
 
You might. But you do not demand that they be adhered to. You put your ideology above facts and evidence with every fucking moment of your sad existence.....as far as I know it to be.

No, you support illegals and allow them to continue as such through your ideology. I will never put stock in your views.
 

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